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Pakistan Nabs [Two] 'Al Qaeda Operatives'
CNN ^ | 2/4/03 | Syed Mohsin Naqvi

Posted on 02/04/2003 7:43:59 AM PST by Coop

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

LAHORE, Pakistan (CNN) -- Two suspected prominent al Qaeda operatives have been arrested at Lahore Airport and will be handed over to the United States.

The two men, who were about to leave for Dublin on a Qatar Airways flight, were captured by Pakistani authorities on Tuesday after U.S. officials provided information about them, intelligence officials said.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abrarkahn; alqaeda; altafhussain; dublin; hussain; ireland; kahn; khan; pakistan; terrorism
Like many here, I am sometimes frustrated by what goes on in Pakistan. But I have to give credit to the government. It has performed admirably in capturing terrorists in spite of vehement public opposition.
1 posted on 02/04/2003 7:44:00 AM PST by Coop
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To: patton; Angelus Errare
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2 posted on 02/04/2003 7:44:19 AM PST by Coop
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To: Coop
Change those baggage tags from Dublin to Gitmo.
3 posted on 02/04/2003 7:49:15 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Coop
Bump.

Hopefully they will be thoroughly "interogated" at some discrete location like Diego Garcia.

4 posted on 02/04/2003 7:50:09 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Liberals SuK; Liberalism SuX)
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To: Coop
>>The two men, who were about to leave for Dublin on a Qatar Airways flight<<

Who or what is in Dublin for them?

5 posted on 02/04/2003 7:53:31 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Coop
Dublin, eh? Perhaps they read about how easy it was for some Irish Commies to attack and damage a US Navy aircraft that had stopped over for refueling.

Neutral Ireland debates U.S. military flights as anti-war protester takes ax to plane

I'm sure the Islam-o-bombers would love to blow up a transport plane.

6 posted on 02/04/2003 7:57:53 AM PST by csvset
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To: blam
WOT arrest ping
7 posted on 02/04/2003 7:58:33 AM PST by csvset
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To: Coop
Who is Kahn?
8 posted on 02/04/2003 8:04:44 AM PST by patton (Killing babies is murder)
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To: Jim Noble
Who or what is in Dublin for them?

The IRA, a group that just loves to send explosive messages to British military and political entities. Pure speculation on my part.

Or they could just be wanting a few pints of Guinness before catching a connecting flight.

9 posted on 02/04/2003 8:09:01 AM PST by Coop
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To: patton
Who is Kahn?

He's the arch enemy of James Tiberius Kirk.

11 posted on 02/04/2003 8:09:30 AM PST by Coop
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To: Coop
Two suspected prominent al Qaeda operatives have been arrested at Lahore Airport and will be handed over to the United States

And tommy daschle and the Party of Fools still insist we're losing the "war on terror".

Nice post coop.

12 posted on 02/04/2003 8:09:55 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (Kofi and his minions have anti-US opinions)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
captured by Pakistani authorities on Tuesday after U.S. officials provided information about them, intelligence officials said.

Kudos to our intel folks, hard at work both in the field and behind windowless walls.

13 posted on 02/04/2003 8:14:50 AM PST by Coop
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To: Coop
That's because there's a clear divide in Pakistan between Musharraf and his immediate supporters in the military and the interior ministry, who recognize that al-Qaeda is a threat to them (in the sense that they want to knock them off), the ISI, and what the people want.
14 posted on 02/04/2003 8:21:59 AM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: Coop
Kudos to our intel folks, hard at work both in the field and behind windowless walls.

Amen to that. Seems they are shedding the 'forced PC' culture imbued upon them by Clinton.

15 posted on 02/04/2003 8:22:26 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: Angelus Errare
I've never recognized exactly where the divide is (although I take your word for it), but it's evident by the mixed messages and sometimes strange behavior. But I've been more pleased than not lately, and I wonder just how much cooperation is going on behind the scenes.
16 posted on 02/04/2003 8:48:39 AM PST by Coop
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To: aristeides; thinden; honway; piasa
Dublin, huh? My hunch about that renewed IRA cooperation seems to be more reasonable with each passing day...So, I'll ask again. Was Toon just looking for a "peace" legacy, or was he carrying messages and making introductions to the IRA?
17 posted on 02/04/2003 9:10:32 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Lion's Cub
BTW, my guess is that Hussein is either Iraqi or related to Arafat, or both.
18 posted on 02/04/2003 9:22:10 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Jim Noble
Who or what is in Dublin for them?

Well, I recall a bomb expert last spring claiming that pipe bombs used to booby trap buildings in Jenin were similar in detail to ones used in Northern Ireland. The expert believed that Palestinian bombmakers must have directly trained by IRA bombmakers.

Back in the day the Evil Empire used to host "symposia," or arrange "lecture tours," so terrorists from different parts of the globe could share their expertise. It would seem that sufficient ties were formed in that area that cooperation now continues without Soviet sponsorship.

19 posted on 02/04/2003 9:22:21 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Angelus Errare
Are you pretty certain about that?

after U.S. officials provided information about them

Or did we make him an offer he couldn't refuse?

20 posted on 02/04/2003 9:27:32 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Stultis
I believe they also worked together in at least one bombing in Argentina, didn't they?
21 posted on 02/04/2003 9:30:40 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Coop
Basically, here's the way things work in Pakistan.

Musharraf, the Pakistani military (or the officer corps at least), and the Muttahidah Qaumi Movement (the Pakistani Muslim League which, despite it's name, is more of a nationalist party than anything else) all support the War on Terror as far as the elimination of al-Qaeda goes because they desire a continuation of the Musharraf dictatorship. But while they oppose al-Qaeda's central network, the various Islamic Pakistani groups (all al-Qaeda affiliates) that organize attacks on India are allowed and encouraged to carry out their work. If any one of these groups begins getting at odds with the government, their members get arrested (at least temporarily) until they put their sights back on India.

The ISI, while its directors are now staffed with Musharraf loyalists, has a lot of support for al-Qaeda among the rank and file and an internal purge is really needed to clean up the organization.

As far as the Pakistani people go, up in the northern areas of the Northwest Frontier Province and Baluchistan support for al-Qaeda runs extremely high. The native Islamic party in those provinces that supported the Taliban in 2001, the Muttahidah Majlis-e-Amal, did disturbingly well in the last elections and their ascension in the northern areas of the country has made it difficult for the federal Pakistani soldiers to carry out their orders in the hunt for al-Qaeda. This is why the US continues to support Musharraf, because he's considered a far better alternative for governing a nuclear power than the MMA.
22 posted on 02/04/2003 9:32:38 AM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: Lion's Cub
Al-Qaeda has tried to kill Musharraf on several occasions.

Omar Sheikh, the guy who killed Daniel Pearl and al-Qaeda's top hitman in Pakistan, had a standing order to assassinate Musharraf and his inner circle. The car bomb that was used to blow up the US consulate in Islamabad was originally intended to be used to kill Musharraf.

While the Pakistanis do support terrorism, the general rule is that while al-Qaeda operatives are arrested and extradited (if the Interior Ministry finds them), the Kashmiri terrorist groups get the revolving door jail treatment. And Musharraf is getting paid quite nicely for his willingness to be so accomodating.
23 posted on 02/04/2003 9:36:20 AM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: Angelus Errare
Thanks for your insights.
24 posted on 02/04/2003 9:43:01 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Coop
How big a fish are these two guys? Anyone knows?

Thanks
25 posted on 02/04/2003 9:46:44 AM PST by RecentConvert
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To: Angelus Errare
I knew bits and pieces of that, but your wrap-up is very informative and appreciated.
26 posted on 02/04/2003 9:59:18 AM PST by Coop
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To: RecentConvert
How big a fish are these two guys?

They've never been mentioned before in my review of open-source publications relating to Al Qaeda, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. They also don't show up on a couple of worksheets provided to me by FReepers.

27 posted on 02/04/2003 10:04:16 AM PST by Coop
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To: Coop
What the story didn't report is that the Al-Qaeda operatives are senior Pakistan government ministers .
29 posted on 02/04/2003 10:42:15 AM PST by Man of the Right
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To: sheamanski
Don't buy the lie, huh? And just what lie might that be? (This should be good...)
30 posted on 02/04/2003 10:57:55 AM PST by Coop
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To: Man of the Right
Interesting. Do you have a source for that? I did a search on their names - together - and came up with the following (not much, but):

the MQM [Muttahida Qaumi Movement] chief, Altaf Hussain has demanded of the prime Minister and Sindh Chief Minister Liaquat Ali Jatoi to order immediate arrest of the killers of Mohammed Ali, MQM worker.

Three staffers of Jang Group, including The News staffer Amjad and two others Abrar Khan and Najeeb were intercepted by armed carjackers near Jamshed Quarters Traffic Section while going in a car (QE-7344) in Jamshed Quarters police limits.

http://www.karachipage.com/news/sep98/092598.txt

Searches of the individual names, combined with "Pakistan," produced multiple hits.

31 posted on 02/04/2003 11:10:32 AM PST by Coop
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To: Coop
Yes, it's good they caught 2. I just hope that they didn't let 25 others slip through......
32 posted on 02/04/2003 1:29:53 PM PST by b4its2late
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To: Stultis
Castro is sponsoring them now.
33 posted on 02/04/2003 11:54:07 PM PST by piasa (Those who sit on fences soon cut off circulation to their family jewels.)
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To: b4its2late
There's no pleasing some folks.
34 posted on 02/05/2003 5:24:06 AM PST by Coop
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To: Coop
There's no pleasing some folks.

I guess.........

35 posted on 02/05/2003 5:54:31 AM PST by b4its2late
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To: Angelus Errare
Very true. While he may be a cast-iron-usda-grade-A sob, he's our cast-iron-usda-grade-A sob. What many here don't seem to understand is the Pakistani government doesn't really control large parts of Pakistan. I'm talking about the "tribal areas" on the border of Afghanistan.
36 posted on 09/16/2003 6:02:38 AM PDT by Valin (There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them)
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To: Angelus Errare
The world is a lot more complicated than many people realize. It would make things so much easier if the world was composed of good guys and bad guys. And the good guys always wore white hats and were pure as the driven snow, the bad guys black and were always pure (adolf hitler) evil. But it just isn't that way.
37 posted on 09/16/2003 6:10:44 AM PDT by Valin (There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them)
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To: Coop; MJY1288; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; ...
Thanks for the post, Coop.

The two men, who were about to leave for Dublin on a Qatar Airways flight, were captured by Pakistani authorities on Tuesday after U.S. officials provided information about them, intelligence officials said.

NON-UN-ilateral, ping!

 
 Thanks, Tonkin!

If you want on or off my pro-Coalition ping list, please Freepmail me. Warning: it is a high volume ping list on good days (most days are good days).

38 posted on 09/16/2003 6:39:37 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (ďA pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity." ~ Winston Churchill)
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To: All
Feb. post. Sorry, all!
39 posted on 09/16/2003 6:42:17 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (ďA pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity." ~ Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim Noble
Who or what is in Dublin for them?

There have been reports for years of the interaction of the Irish, German, Japanese, and Islamic terrorist groups. While they don’t “work” together, they exchange info, arms, etc.

40 posted on 09/16/2003 6:45:07 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
41 posted on 09/16/2003 6:50:32 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Coop
Pull-out-their fingernails-while-attaching-jumpercables-to-their-testicles Bump.
42 posted on 09/16/2003 6:57:45 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (>>>>>Ah'm takin' da 5th<<<<<)
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To: Jim Noble
>>The two men, who were about to leave for Dublin on a Qatar Airways flight<<

Who or what is in Dublin for them?


Fat Teddy's favorite charity, the IRA .You know, those romantic defenders of warm beer,redheaded cuties and all that..... I wonder if Pakistan got first crack at interogation?
43 posted on 09/16/2003 7:16:52 AM PDT by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow.....The United States Army)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
We're smoking them out, one (two) at at time!
44 posted on 09/16/2003 9:24:46 AM PDT by blackie
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To: Coop
Who is Kahn?
He's the arch enemy of James Tiberius Kirk.


45 posted on 09/16/2003 7:33:00 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Lion's Cub; Coop; BOBTHENAILER
Dublin, huh? My hunch about that renewed IRA cooperation seems to be more reasonable with each passing day...So, I'll ask again. Was Toon just looking for a "peace" legacy, or was he carrying messages and making introductions to the IRA?

traitorrapist42 is the mobile mediary for Terrorists R Us, a lobbying group for Hitlery! CoupInk.

The only chance to get das Butch von Buchenvald in the White House is a massive terrorist attack on CONUS in the next thirteen months and three weeks.

Terrorism makes strange bedfellas.

It gets no stranger than this.

46 posted on 09/16/2003 7:40:00 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Terrorism makes strange bedfellas.

These fiends will do anything...anything, to seize and hold power.

I will do anything...anything, to prevent that occurence.

47 posted on 09/16/2003 7:55:07 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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