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White House Report Stings Drug Agency On Abilities
New York Times ^ | Feb. 5, 2003 | Eric Lichtblau

Posted on 02/05/2003 6:58:50 AM PST by Wolfie

WHITE HOUSE REPORT STINGS DRUG AGENCY ON ABILITIES

WASHINGTON, Feb. 4 - In an unusually harsh critique of an agency with a strong global reputation, the White House has questioned the ability of the Drug Enforcement Administration to stem the flow of narcotics and is threatening to give the agency its smallest budget increase in 15 years.

The agency "is unable to demonstrate progress in reducing the availability of illegal drugs in the United States," the Office of Management and Budget wrote in an assessment released this week as part of the budget plan. The agency lacks clear long-term strategies and goals, its managers are not held accountable for problems, and its financial controls do not comply with federal standards, the review found.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: drugskill; drugwar; uttersilence; wodkills; wodlist
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1 posted on 02/05/2003 6:58:50 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Might be a good idea to shift funds from drug collection to drug prevention.

2 posted on 02/05/2003 7:01:48 AM PST by anobjectivist
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To: anobjectivist
Uh Oh. This could underminbe all the success we've had fighting the War On Drugs!.

The ones who are really scared right now are all the pols and cops who skim from the WOD $$$. They are desparate to maintain or escalate the WOD.

3 posted on 02/05/2003 7:13:29 AM PST by corkoman (did someone say Cheese?)
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To: Wolfie
"The agency lacks clear long-term strategies and goals..."

Oh, I don't know about that...I'd say the goals of steady gubmint paychecks and the strategies of blowing smoke and of general obfuscation to achieve that end are working effectively.
4 posted on 02/05/2003 7:14:38 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes
I thought the goal was to build more helicopters in Connecticut for the shooting war the DEA is running down in Columbia?
5 posted on 02/05/2003 7:17:01 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: Wolfie
"Typically," Mr. Nadelmann said, "the D.E.A. has gotten a pretty free ride. Nobody was really held to account for the issue of reducing overall drug use. But this suggests some measure of seriousness about actually putting in a set of real criteria."

We knew that. But don't hold your breath.

6 posted on 02/05/2003 7:20:43 AM PST by JoeSixPack1 (Who's on first?)
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To: Wolfie
In an unusually harsh critique of an agency with a strong global reputation, the White House has questioned the ability of the Drug Enforcement Administration to stem the flow of narcotics and is threatening to give the agency its smallest budget increase in 15 years.

Government Management: "You have utterly failed to do your job, so you only get a small raise this year."

7 posted on 02/05/2003 7:24:11 AM PST by steve-b
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To: anobjectivist
Might be a good idea to shift funds from drug collection to drug prevention.

A better idea would be to follow the constitution, and butt out.

8 posted on 02/05/2003 7:24:37 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: *Wod_list; Xenalyte; jmc813; bassmaner; philman_36; EBUCK; FreeTally; Hemingway's Ghost; zarf; ...
ping
9 posted on 02/05/2003 7:38:50 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.....

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...that should give even the densest a clue.
10 posted on 02/05/2003 7:47:40 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Wolfie
Officials at the agency and its parent, the Justice Department, said the agency was working to address many of the concerns in the report. They said the report was more a reflection of the agency's failure to communicate its successes than its ability to fight drug trafficking.

"It's not that we're doing things wrong or we've been ineffective," a spokesman, Will Glaspy, said. "It's more that we just need to do a better job of defining our accomplishments."

They should use an analog to the KIA/bodycount measure that MacNamara used so successfully during the Vietnam War. Exact same dynamic here, Feds. It's high time you figured this one out.

11 posted on 02/05/2003 7:49:05 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Wolfie
I don't see all the usual suspects on this thread. Could it be that they leave off the threads where they will have to face up to the failure of the government to stem ilict drug use when they send out their secret email alerts?
12 posted on 02/05/2003 8:05:25 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
I expected at least a few "the Times is a leftie mouthpiece (as if it was the newspaper that issued the report), and besides, you like Hillary" comments.
13 posted on 02/05/2003 8:07:25 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; headsonpikes; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; ...
WOD Ping
14 posted on 02/05/2003 8:19:30 AM PST by jmc813 (Do tigers sleep in lily patches? Do rhinos run from thunder?)
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To: Wolfie
of an agency with a strong global reputation,

I guess it depends on how you define "Strong". LOL!

The agency lacks clear long-term strategies and goals, its managers are not held accountable for problems, and its financial controls do not comply with federal standards, the review found.

So what's the problem? Sounds like any other government agency.

15 posted on 02/05/2003 8:21:07 AM PST by FreeTally (How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
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To: ThomasJefferson
Could it be that they leave off the threads where they will have to face up to the failure of the government to stem ilict drug use when they send out their secret email alerts?

I thought they posted their canned insults ("...bla bla bla potheads bla bla bla liberties bla bla bla anarchists bla bla bla...") on any thread with the word "DRUG" in the title. Actually reading the article is strictly optional.

16 posted on 02/05/2003 8:21:34 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
I'll bet plenty that they have an email alert list. None of them deny it when I say it. They all show up at the same time on the same threads, I don't believe in coincidences.
17 posted on 02/05/2003 8:26:49 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Wolfie
Oh, this is grand!

They said the report was more a reflection of the agency's failure to communicate its successes than its ability to fight drug trafficking.

"It's not that we're doing things wrong or we've been ineffective," a spokesman, Will Glaspy, said. "It's more that we just need to do a better job of defining our accomplishments."

"we just didn't make it clear that "success" is defined as keeping our jobs and our budget increases." LOL!

This reminds me of the scene from the movie "Office Space" where the main character is explaining the "rounding scam" to Jennifer Aniston in the car, and she says, "and how is that not stealing". He replies, "ok, maybe I'm not explaining this correctly....".

18 posted on 02/05/2003 8:29:48 AM PST by FreeTally (How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
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To: FreeTally
"It's not that we're doing things wrong or we've been ineffective," a spokesman, Will Glaspy, said. "It's more that we just need to do a better job of defining our accomplishments."

Reminds me of the Rick Berman interview I saw described on Slashdot yesterday, in which he says that he doesn't understand why Star Trek: Nemesis tanked.

It ain't a river in Egypt.

19 posted on 02/05/2003 8:39:55 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
I thought they posted their canned insults ("...bla bla bla potheads bla bla bla liberties bla bla bla anarchists bla bla bla...") on any thread with the word "DRUG" in the title. Actually reading the article is strictly optional.

I believe SOP is to read only enough of the article to attack the source. In this case, as soon as they see "White House", they'll get stuck in a loop, like a dogma chasing it's tail.

20 posted on 02/05/2003 8:44:29 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: FreeTally
Nice to know the guy who ran the "ineffective" DEA is now over at Homeland Security.
21 posted on 02/05/2003 9:04:33 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: tacticalogic
In this case, as soon as they see "White House", they'll get stuck in a loop, like a dogma chasing it's tail.

They will claim that those in the White House who said this and those at the DEA who are responsible are all just hold-overs from the Clinton Administration and make some stupid, nonsensical comment about how drug prosecutions went down during CLinton's term because he wanted to legalize drugs.

22 posted on 02/05/2003 9:04:51 AM PST by FreeTally (How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
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To: FreeTally
That would be stupid and nonsensical, since more people were busted under Clinton than under Reagan and Bush the First combined.
23 posted on 02/05/2003 9:07:22 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Nice to know the guy who ran the "ineffective" DEA is now over at Homeland Security.

Yeh, pretty comforting to know that many of the people who were "on the take" during their stint in the WOD may be "on the take" in their role on the War on Terror. If you can be bribed by drug cartels.....

24 posted on 02/05/2003 9:07:23 AM PST by FreeTally (How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
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To: Wolfie
That would be stupid and nonsensical, since more people were busted under Clinton than under Reagan and Bush the First combined.

Yes in deed, but the drug warrior's only weapon is lies. That's exactly why I would expect one to make such a comment - they have before on numerous occasions. They have even claimed that the stats proving this are fabricated. Quite a funny crew....

25 posted on 02/05/2003 9:09:49 AM PST by FreeTally (How did a fool and his money get together in the first place?)
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To: FreeTally
They have even claimed that the stats proving this are fabricated.

Is the Iraqi propaganda news agency hiring? They need people who can claim with a straight face that any evidence, no matter how solid, is "fabricated".

26 posted on 02/05/2003 10:02:30 AM PST by steve-b
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To: FreeTally
Should we ping them, or would you say that their email network has gotten the word out to them to stay away? Maybe their masters have ordered them to stay out of this thread for its embarrassment potential...
27 posted on 02/05/2003 10:12:14 AM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: dcwusmc
bump
28 posted on 02/05/2003 11:04:36 AM PST by ActionNewsBill
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To: Wolfie
Nice to know the guy who ran the "ineffective" DEA is now over at Homeland Security.

Isn't it. The same guy who blew off the Mena operation running in his backyard for years is now in control of the borders under homeland security. Something tells me business as usual will be the result.
29 posted on 02/05/2003 11:20:18 AM PST by steve50 (forget the tar and feathers, get a rope)
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To: Wolfie
It has enjoyed generally strong support on Capitol Hill, and its former director, Asa Hutchinson, who left last week to join the Homeland Security Department, was popular among conservatives in Congress.
Who gets to be big dog now? Has anyone been named?
30 posted on 02/05/2003 11:36:50 AM PST by philman_36
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To: steve-b; *Wod_list
Government Management: "You have utterly failed to do your job, so you only get a small raise this year."

Sad but true. However, it beats management Drug Warrior-style: "You have utterly failed to do your job, so you must have a hefty raise." I think it's been said that a good working definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.

31 posted on 02/05/2003 11:37:34 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Wolfie
What State you from Wolfie?
32 posted on 02/05/2003 11:41:52 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
100g/$100
33 posted on 02/05/2003 12:00:56 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
From long ago...thanks.
34 posted on 02/05/2003 12:09:53 PM PST by philman_36
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To: Wolfie
2 oz or less/misdemeanor/180 days/$2,000 here
So much for 3 days cake and wine.
35 posted on 02/05/2003 12:11:58 PM PST by philman_36
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To: dcwusmc; Wolfie; Hemingway's Ghost; ActionNewsBill; steve-b; FreeTally; MrLeRoy; steve50; ...
Should we ping them, or would you say that their email network has gotten the word out to them to stay away?

No reason to ping. I am laughing my arse off over your alls collective circle jerk over a New York Times article.

36 posted on 02/05/2003 12:18:32 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
I am laughing my arse off over your alls collective circle jerk over a New York Times article.

The agency "is unable to demonstrate progress in reducing the availability of illegal drugs in the United States,"

Why don't you tell us all how great the drug war is working.

37 posted on 02/05/2003 12:22:36 PM PST by ActionNewsBill
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To: Dane
Hey, dipwad, it's based on an OFFICIAL FEDGOV REPORT. The NYT based its story on that... so now what, WODDIE?
38 posted on 02/05/2003 12:25:44 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: Wolfie; Dane
I hope Dane (post 36) didn't disappoint... he's so typical and so mindless.
39 posted on 02/05/2003 12:27:47 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: dcwusmc
Heh...I called it in post #13

I expected at least a few "the Times is a leftie mouthpiece (as if it was the newspaper that issued the report), and besides, you like Hillary" comments.

40 posted on 02/05/2003 12:28:34 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: ActionNewsBill
The agency "is unable to demonstrate progress in reducing the availability of illegal drugs in the United States,"(New York Times quote)

Why don't you tell us all how great the drug war is working.(Action News Bill)

And thank you for showing your undying devotion to the organ of the American left, The New York Times.

Psst, I have a bridge that crosses the East River towards Brooklyn for sale.

Wasn't it PT Barnum who stated that there is sucker born every minute.

41 posted on 02/05/2003 12:29:59 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
And thank you for showing your undying devotion to the organ of the American left, The New York Times.

Are you claiming that the Times fabricated the federal Office of Management and Budget review? If so, provide evidence.

42 posted on 02/05/2003 12:34:09 PM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: philman_36
Has anyone been named?
One of Asa's underlings from the DEA, can't remember the guys name. Can't get any fresh blood in, they might accidentally bust one of the approved franchise operations.
43 posted on 02/05/2003 12:36:05 PM PST by steve50 (forget the tar and feathers, get a rope)
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To: Dane
And thank you for showing your undying devotion to the organ of the American left, The New York Times.

The agency "is unable to demonstrate progress in reducing the availability of illegal drugs in the United States," the Office of Management and Budget wrote in an assessment released this week as part of the budget plan.

What part of this don't you understand? This is in a report that was issued by the OMB, the Times is merely reporting it as fact.

Does it have to be printed in "Jackboot Monthly" in order for you to address the issues?

44 posted on 02/05/2003 12:37:41 PM PST by ActionNewsBill
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To: MrLeRoy
Obviously, Times editors have infiltrated the Office of Management and Budget. Either that, or some people can't read.
45 posted on 02/05/2003 12:38:14 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: ActionNewsBill
Does it have to be printed in "Jackboot Monthly" in order for you to address the issues?

Uh no, it doesn't have to printed in your cannabis filled world of "Jackboot Monthly", you have already addressed the issue with you and your comrades circle jerk over a New York Times article.

46 posted on 02/05/2003 12:46:51 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane; Wolfie
Darn, Wolfie; you coulda cleaned up if you'd only been able to find somebody dumb enough to bet against you.
47 posted on 02/05/2003 12:55:41 PM PST by steve-b
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To: Dane
I am laughing my arse off over your alls collective circle jerk over a New York Times article.

(to the tune of Monkeys of Zamboanga)
Oh, Dane has no arse on Free Republic.
He's the pivot man on Free Republic...

48 posted on 02/05/2003 12:55:43 PM PST by philman_36
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To: steve50
One of Asa's underlings from the DEA, can't remember the guys name.
Thanks. A "no high profile" person probably. I'll keep my eyes open.
49 posted on 02/05/2003 12:57:51 PM PST by philman_36
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To: Dane
I am laughing my arse off over your alls collective circle jerk over a New York Times article.

Your alls? Man, I think that's an insult to even redneck grammar.

50 posted on 02/05/2003 1:01:26 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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