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Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 2/06/03 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 02/07/2003 4:24:38 AM PST by kattracks

CNSNews.com) - Lawyers from a homosexual advocacy group took depositions from a Massachusetts parent this week, almost three years after he first exposed "Fistgate," a state-sponsored workshop in which educators instructed teens in graphic homosexual sex.

The deposition of Brian Camenker, taken Tuesday by lawyers for the Boston-based Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders, is an effort to put parents under financial strain and to discourage others around the country from bringing similar workshops to light, Camenker charged.

"If they are able to be able to beat us in Massachusetts, they can continue to hound any parent who gets in their way," said Camenker, president of the Parents Rights Coalition.

Two Massachusetts Department of Education staffers lost their jobs because of their involvement in the state-funded workshop held at Tufts University in March 2000, called "What They Don't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class." The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network co-sponsored the workshop.

Homosexual advocacy groups have been pursuing lawsuits against Camenker and Scott Whiteman, another parent, for secretly recording, exposing and publicizing the event, in which instructors encouraged children as young as 14 years of age to engage in life-threatening sex acts. One instructor told the students: "Fisting often gets a bad rap."

"Fistgate" soon attracted national prominence. Among others, Sean Hannity discusses the event in his book, Let Freedom Ring, and William Bennett talks about the event in his book, The Broken Hearth . This past week, Alan Keyes made a trip to Boston to speak on behalf of Camenker and Whiteman, as well as rally support for their cause.

Legal defense costs since homosexual advocacy groups first deposed Camenker and Whiteman in the summer of 2000 have reached well over $100,000, Camenker said.

"It has a certain national significance as to what the gays can do to parents who expose the stuff," he added.

The Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders did not return calls for comment.

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1 posted on 02/07/2003 4:24:38 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
The wickness was so great in the time of Noah that God sent a flood to destroy the people, and it seems like people are becoming like that now, so wicked that they do not deserve life. It is pitiful for man to sink so low.
2 posted on 02/07/2003 4:34:59 AM PST by tessalu
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To: kattracks
How about a countersuit?
There are many potential charges on which to place the sponsors under legal scrutiny.
4 posted on 02/07/2003 4:46:52 AM PST by G Larry ($10K gifts to John Thune before he announces!)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Ah, the one way street of "tolerance" shows up again. The fudge packers only have a right to an opinion, nobody else.

Anyone here ever try to tell people about "Fistgate"? The reactions I got were complete disbelief, especially when I mentioned that tax dollars went to support it. It was like they didn't want to know even when I told them that it would someday be coming to their child's school.

Are the "The Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders" sure they want to keep this can o worms open? Is that their final answer? Hope they lose badly.
5 posted on 02/07/2003 4:48:14 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: tessalu
"The wickness was so great in the time of Noah that God sent a flood to destroy the people,"

God also said He would never destroy with water again (I believe) Good News?

The next time will be with fire (Bad news).

6 posted on 02/07/2003 4:56:08 AM PST by SERE_DOC (Murphy's rules for combat #6... When in doubt, empty the magazine)
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To: kattracks; *Homosexual Agenda
The Gaystapo is incompatible with freedom.
7 posted on 02/07/2003 5:17:22 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: kattracks
Is there a way to help?
8 posted on 02/07/2003 5:27:36 AM PST by stevio
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To: stevio
A quick google turns this up:

Source: http://www.parentsrightscoalition.org/lawsuit.htm
Home: http://www.parentsrightscoalition.org

No guarantee of legitamacy:

Contact page: http://www.parentsrightscoalition.org/About_PRC.htm

P.O. Box 175

Newton, MA 02466

VOICE MAIL: (781) 433-7106

FAX: (781) 899-0992

Email: Office@ParentsRightsCoalition.org (see below)

The Lawsuit against the Parents!

This is a vicious reprisal by the Boston area (and national) gay activists in the schools against parents. They have been very clear that they intend to "punish" us -- and anyone else -- who gets in their way.

Read The Weekly Standard Article from last summer. This is probably the best synopsis of the situation. It's written by a New York Post writer. Famed civil libertarians Alan Dershowitz and Harvey Silverglate are quoted. It tells is like it is in the chilling Boston political and legal atmosphere of today.

The Tufts "Fistgate" Conference. Here are links to the whole story of what happened - and why the homosexual activists want to silence us so badly. YOU CAN GET A COPY OF THE TAPE FOR YOURSELF.

MORE TO COME - In the coming weeks we will be posting more detailed descriptions plus legal documents, including the infamous restraining order against even the entire Boston Media and the State Legislature from discussing the tapes!!

 

CAN YOU HELP?  DONATE?   Brian Camenker and Scott Whiteman are right now facing up to $100,000 in legal bills, and this case hasn't even gone to trial! They are using all kind of preliminary tactics to make us incur high legal bills. Any donation will be gladly accepted at:

Parents Defense Fund
PO Box 175
Newton, Massachusetts 02466

(Checks can be made out to: "Parents Defense Fund")
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!

Contact PRC


9 posted on 02/07/2003 5:57:54 AM PST by Tunehead54
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To: scripter; *Homosexual Agenda
Ping
10 posted on 02/07/2003 5:59:52 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: kattracks
This past week, Alan Keyes made a trip to Boston to speak on behalf of Camenker and Whiteman, as well as rally support for their cause.

Attention Keyes bashers.

You will know them by what they do

11 posted on 02/07/2003 6:01:27 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: SERE_DOC
The next time will be with fire (Bad news).

Would a meteor strike work for that? I've noticed He usually employs natural forces. (And why not).

12 posted on 02/07/2003 6:05:20 AM PST by banjo joe
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To: EdReform; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Somewhere at FR I read a longtime FReeper decrying the loss of the ping groups - are they back? How are they sent? Is there a page listing them? A response would be appreciated! Thanks in advance.



13 posted on 02/07/2003 6:08:07 AM PST by Tunehead54
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To: kattracks
This is a reminder there is a cost to standing up and doing what is right........................something we should all be thinking about.
14 posted on 02/07/2003 6:08:17 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: SERE_DOC
The next time will be with fire (Bad news).

Please cite the source for this.

15 posted on 02/07/2003 6:08:33 AM PST by webstersII
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult; JoJo Gunn
"Anyone here ever try to tell people about "Fistgate"? The reactions I got were complete disbelief, especially when I mentioned that tax dollars went to support it. It was like they didn't want to know even when I told them that it would someday be coming to their child's school."

Yes. And you can read the reply here.

16 posted on 02/07/2003 6:10:11 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: Tunehead54
That's the group. I first saw Brian Camenker when he addressed the Newton School Committee regarding a controversial "sex-ed" (i.e. pornographic) program. (Newton is a notoriously liberal Massachusetts town along the lines of Brookline and Cambridge.)

The antipathy directed toward him at the meeting is hard to imagine.His efforts foreshadowed the infamous battle against an "AIDS awareness program" featuring former stand-up comedienne, Suzi Landolphi of "Hot, Sexy, and Safer Productions" in Chelmsford, MA in 1993. I'm not making this up. You can read the CNN whitewash here.

I've read the transcript of the presentation which can only be described as pornographic. She began the presentation asking the students if they were interested in "a group sexual experience." It was downhill from there, and included her discussing the size of various boys' penis', a recommendation to girls to masturbate over a mirror on the floor, and pulling a condom over a student's head.

17 posted on 02/07/2003 6:12:15 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: kattracks
Besides the moral outrage, there is the safety question.

Fisting is when you take your entire hand and put it into another person's rectum. The chances of injury are high. Here is a quote from a pro-fisting site:

The primary dangers of fisting are damage in and around the anal/vaginal opening. Minor damage can come in the form anal/ vaginal fissures which are tiny tears in the skin surrounding the anal/ vaginal opening, tenderness associated with the stretching of the openings and/or a lack of lubrication and bleeding caused when fissures occur. Severe damage is the actual tearing and ripping of the anal/vaginal muscles sometimes leading to incontinence (a loss of bowel retention/ control), usually caused by an over eager- ness to achieve full insertion of the fist without allowing the muscle tissue to relax and adjust. The severest form of damage are the inversion of the bowel, in which the bowel tears loose from the abdominal cavity and protrudes outside the anal opening and peritonitis, an infection caused by fecal material entering the sterile abdominal cavity through tears in the bowel walls. The death rate is well over 60% when this condition occurs as there are no nerve endings to tell you something is wrong.

I can't imagine a medical doctor in their right mind that would recommend this activity. How can we be teaching this activity to kids?

18 posted on 02/07/2003 6:15:19 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: G Larry; All
"There are many potential charges on which to place the sponsors under legal scrutiny."

From Chapter 272 - CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER - of the "GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS", let's look at some of the other interesting sections of that chapter that pertain to the Fistgate workshop:

Chapter 272: Section 28. Matter harmful to minors, dissemination; possession; defenses.

Section 28. Whoever disseminates to a minor any matter harmful to minors, as defined in section thirty-one, knowing it to be harmful to minors, or has in his possession any such matter with the intent to disseminate the same to minors, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years or in a jail or house of correction for not more than two and one-half years, or by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars nor more than ten thousand dollars for the first offense, not less than five thousand nor more than twenty thousand dollars for the second offense, or not less than ten thousand nor more than thirty thousand dollars for the third and subsequent offenses, or by both such fine and imprisonment. A prosecution commenced under this section shall not be continued without a finding nor placed on file. It shall be a defense in any prosecution under this section that the defendant was in a parental or guardianship relationship with the minor. It shall also be a defense in any prosecution under this section if the evidence proves that the defendant was a bona fide school, museum or library, or was acting in the course of his employment as an employee of such organization or of a retail outlet affiliated with and serving the educational purpose of such organization.

Chapter 272: Section 29. Dissemination or possession of obscene matter; punishment; defense.

Section 29. Whoever disseminates any matter which is obscene, knowing it to be obscene, or whoever has in his possession any matter which is obscene, knowing it to be obscene, with the intent to disseminate the same, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years or in a jail or house of correction for not more than two and one-half years or by a fine of not less than one thousand nor more than ten thousand dollars for the first offense, not less than five thousand nor more than twenty thousand dollars for the second offense, or not less than ten thousand nor more than thirty thousand dollars for the third and subsequent offenses, or by both such fine and imprisonment. A prosecution commenced under this section shall not be continued without a finding nor placed on file. It shall be a defense under this section if the evidence proves that the defendant was a bona fide school, museum or library, or was acting in the course of his employment as an employee of such organization or of a retail outlet affiliated with and serving the educational purpose of such organization.

An excerpt from Chapter 272: Section 31. Definitions applicable to secs. 28, 28C, 28D, 28E, 29, 29A, 29B, 30 and 30D.

Section 31. As used in sections twenty-eight, twenty-eight C, twenty-eight D, twenty-eight E, twenty-nine, twenty-nine A, twenty-nine B, thirty and thirty D, the following words shall, unless the context requires otherwise, have the following meanings:-

""Disseminate'', to import, publish, produce, print, manufacture, distribute, sell, lease, exhibit or display.

""Harmful to minors'', matter is harmful to minors if it is obscene or, if taken as a whole, it (1) describes or represents nudity, sexual conduct or sexual excitement, so as to appeal predominantly to the prurient interest of minors; (2) is patently contrary to prevailing standards of adults in the county where the offense was committed as to suitable material for such minors; and (3) lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value for minors.

""Knowing'', a general awareness of the character of the matter.

""Lascivious intent'', a state of mind in which the sexual gratification or arousal of any person is an objective. For the purposes of prosecution under this chapter, proof of lascivious intent may include, but shall not be limited to, the following:

(1) whether the circumstances include sexual behavior, sexual relations, infamous conduct of a lustful or obscene nature, deviation from accepted customs and manners, or sexually oriented displays;...

""Minor'', a person under eighteen years of age.

"Obscene'', matter is obscene if taken as a whole it

(1) appeals to the prurient interest of the average person applying the contemporary standards of the county where the offense was committed;

(2) depicts or describes sexual conduct in a patently offensive way; and

(3) lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value...


Since the majority of the workshop participants were students under the age of 18 and considered to be minors under Mass law, it is the instructors of the Fistgate workshop who should be brought up on criminal charges for violating Sections 28 and 29 of Chapter 272 of the "General Laws of Massachusetts".

19 posted on 02/07/2003 6:23:31 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: kattracks
And the same people who promote this Homosexualism are the same ones that say "we have to learn why the Muslim world hates us so much".
20 posted on 02/07/2003 6:30:03 AM PST by Guillermo (Sic 'Em)
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To: Aquinasfan; All
"I've read the transcript of the presentation which can only be described as pornographic."...

You can listen to the audio clips from the workshop:

From For The Children, Inc:

Listen to Mass. Depts of Education and Health instruct children on the mechanics of homosexuality.

"On March 25, 2000 the Massachusetts Departments of Education and Health teamed up with the national gay and lesbian group GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network) and conducted a conference for school children and educators. The conference was held under the guise of tolerance and safe schools. However, as the Parent's Rights Coalition discovered, this conference was about teaching children the unsafe mechanics of homosexuality. Following the conference, organizers denied claims of misconduct made by the Parent's Rights Coalition. Organizers were forced to concede the truth after the Parent's Rights Coalition made public an audio recording from the conference, which substantiated their claims..."


You'll need RealPlayer to listen to the audio clips.

21 posted on 02/07/2003 6:35:43 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; L.N. Smithee; Buffalo Bob; Yakboy; ppaul; GrandMoM; yendu bwam; John O
Ping
22 posted on 02/07/2003 6:46:03 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: EdReform; Remedy; GrandMoM; backhoe; pram; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; ...
Overlapping ping.

Homosexual Agenda Index
Homosexual Agenda Keyword Search
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23 posted on 02/07/2003 6:55:26 AM PST by scripter
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To: Brookhaven
"I can't imagine a medical doctor in their right mind that would recommend this activity."

Nor any other medical personnel:

Why Isn't Homosexuality Considered A Disorder On The Basis Of Its Medical Consequences?

"The co-author of my own medical reference book, Saunders Pocket Reference for Nurses,[i] was the head of the surgery department at Stanford. She related case histories of homosexuals needing emergency surgery due to "fisting," "playing with toys," (inserting objects into the rectum) and other bizarre acts..."


"How can we be teaching this activity to kids?"

Here's one way: GLSEN Encourages Teens In Anal SEX "Don't give up."

And when the kids get to college, they'll have ample opportunity to continue the homosexual education they received in middle school and high school with special workshops, such as: Students Learn Sex Toy Safety (No Joking)

24 posted on 02/07/2003 7:13:34 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: Tunehead54
Click on the links in reply #23 below.
25 posted on 02/07/2003 7:16:53 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: EdReform; scripter
Legal defense costs since homosexual advocacy groups first deposed Camenker and Whiteman in the summer of 2000 have reached well over $100,000, Camenker said.

This is why the average person can’t speak out against the homosexual agenda. Their tyrannical methodology is buy the party line or be ruined.

It's down right scarry.

26 posted on 02/07/2003 7:43:47 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Tunehead54
I know Brian Camenker and can say that a donation to the Parents Rights Coalition would be money well spent. He and Scott have been under fire for "years".

Several years ago he(Brian)was labeled a "Right wing Christian radical" which he said was sure to come as a surprise to his Jewish parents. Brian is one of those rare men who stays in the battle armed only with the facts, because he cares about our children. He and his group deserve and NEED our support.

27 posted on 02/07/2003 7:46:25 AM PST by codder too
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To: kattracks
If you already have a copy of this tape, listen to it again. If you don't have a copy of the free tape, go here and order it or listen to it online.

Then, send a few bucks to PRC.

I been down a bunch of roads. But this is truly the most disgusting thing I've ever come across.

28 posted on 02/07/2003 7:47:39 AM PST by upchuck (TSCG: The expanse of your intelligence is a void no universe could ever fill.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Oh, I certainly believe it! If it weren't for the RINO ostritches, we wouldn't be in this mess today. But that's how history is, replete with the few of us willing to see the Darkness in order to FIGHT it. The Left always drags the world into war, always. Our ancestors knew this. Sinister means left.

By the way, I find it interesting that a search on GLSEN's site for "fistgate" yields zero results. Reckon why?
29 posted on 02/07/2003 7:49:07 AM PST by JoJo Gunn
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To: JoJo Gunn

"If they are able to be able to beat us in Massachusetts, they can continue to hound any parent who gets in their way," said Camenker, president of the Parents Rights Coalition.

"It has a certain national significance as to what the gays can do to parents who expose the stuff," he added.


Because of the nature of the crime, the penalties for the act of sodomy were often severe. For example, Thomas Jefferson indicated that in his home state of Virginia, "dismemberment" of the offensive organ was the penalty for sodomy. 7 In fact, Jefferson himself authored a bill penalizing sodomy by castration. 8 The laws of the other states showed similar or even more severe penalties:

That the detestable and abominable vice of buggery [sodomy] . . . shall be from henceforth adjudged felony . . . and that every person being thereof convicted by verdict, confession, or outlawry [unlawful flight to avoid prosecution], shall be hanged by the neck until he or she shall be dead. 9 NEW YORK
That if any man shall lie with mankind as he lieth with womankind, both of them have committed abomination; they both shall be put to death. 10 CONNECTICUT
Sodomy . . . shall be punished by imprisonment at hard labour in the penitentiary during the natural life or lives of the person or persons convicted of th[is] detestable crime. 11 GEORGIA
That if any man shall commit the crime against nature with a man or male child . . . every such offender, being duly convicted thereof in the Supreme Judicial Court, shall be punished by solitary imprisonment for such term not exceeding one year and by confinement afterwards to hard labor for such term not exceeding ten years. 12 MAINE
That if any person or persons shall commit sodomy . . . he or they so offending or committing any of the said crimes within this province, their counsellors, aiders, comforters, and abettors, being convicted thereof as above said, shall suffer as felons. 13 [And] shall forfeit to the Commonwealth all and singular the lands and tenements, goods and chattels, whereof he or she was seized or possessed at the time . . . at the discretion of the court passing the sentence, not exceeding ten years, in the public gaol or house of correction of the county or city in which the offence shall have been committed and be kept at such labor. 14 PENNSYLVANIA
[T]he detestable and abominable vice of buggery [sodomy] . . . be from henceforth adjudged felony . . . and that the offenders being hereof convicted by verdict, confession, or outlawry [unlawful flight to avoid prosecution], shall suffer such pains of death and losses and penalties of their goods. 15 SOUTH CAROLINA
That if any man lieth with mankind as he lieth with a woman, they both shall suffer death. 16 VERMONT

8. Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew A. Lipscomb, editor (Washington, D. C.: Thomas Jefferson M emorial Association, 1904), Vol. I, pp. 226-227, from Jefferson's "For Proportioning Crimes and Punishments."
9. Laws of the State of New-York . . . Since the Revolution (New York: Thomas Greenleaf, 1798), Vol. I, p. 336.
10. The Public Statute Laws of the State of Connecticut (Hartford: Hudson and Goodwin, 1808), Book I, p. 295.
11. A Digest of the Laws of the State of Georgia (Milledgeville: Grantland & Orme, 1822), p. 350.
12. Laws of the State of Maine (Hallowell: Goodale, Glazier & Co., 1822), p. 58.
13. Laws of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia: John Bioren, 1810), Vol. I, p. 113.
14. Collinson Read, An Abridgment of the Laws of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, 1801), p. 279.
15. Alphabetical Digest of the Public Statute Laws of South-Carolina (Charleston: John Hoff, 1814), Vol. I, p. 99.
16. Statutes of the State of Vermont (Bennington, 1791), p. 74.

BURGER, C.J., Concurring Opinion

As the Court notes, ante at 192 , the proscriptions against sodomy have very "ancient roots." Decisions of individuals relating to homosexual conduct have been subject to state intervention throughout the history of Western civilization. Condemnation of those practices is firmly rooted in Judeo-Christian moral and ethical standards. Homosexual sodomy was a capital crime under Roman law. See Code Theod. 9.7.6; Code Just. 9.9.31. See also D. Bailey, Homosexuality [p*197] and the Western Christian Tradition 70-81 (1975). During the English Reformation, when powers of the ecclesiastical courts were transferred to the King's Courts, the first English statute criminalizing sodomy was passed. 25 Hen. VIII, ch. 6. Blackstone described "the infamous crime against nature" as an offense of "deeper malignity" than rape, a heinous act "the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature," and "a crime not fit to be named." 4 W. Blackstone, Commentaries *215. The common law of England, including its prohibition of sodomy, became the received law of Georgia and the other Colonies. In 1816, the Georgia Legislature passed the statute at issue here, and that statute has been continuously in force in one form or another since that time. To hold that the act of homosexual sodomy is somehow protected as a fundamental right would be to cast aside millennia of moral teaching.

This is essentially not a question of personal "preferences," but rather of the legislative authority of the State. I find nothing in the Constitution depriving a State of the power to enact the statute challenged here.

30 posted on 02/07/2003 7:57:06 AM PST by Remedy
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To: codder too; Thinkin' Gal; 2sheep; babylonian; Yehuda; Nix 2; kattracks
I am praying hard for these people. Unfortunately, I can relate to their story on a personal level. (Time to flee Sodom and don't look back). Tell them to stay close to G-d and He will comfort, also pray and fast, and read the Word, especially the Psalms. Also, tell them don't believe it when someone from social services calls and says that they have to interview their children. That's just one of their many tactics.
31 posted on 02/07/2003 8:03:21 AM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Remedy
From what I understand of Cellucci and Bush, I don't think we can depend on the Republican party for moral support. Seems every day there's reason to lose respect for Bush and the GOP. And it becomes more clear each day that Calhoun's study applies to humans as well as rats.
32 posted on 02/07/2003 8:05:48 AM PST by JoJo Gunn
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To: Prodigal Daughter

Unfortunately, I can relate to their story on a personal level.


PETITIONS AGAINST GAY RIGHTS SEIZED (Signature drive by 250 Christian groups sabotaged by gays?)
33 posted on 02/07/2003 8:10:07 AM PST by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Then there were four arrests, including a 17 year old who got signatures when he was 15, and a 76 year old admittedly senile old man who had notarized his own signature and admitted his advancing senility to FDLE prior to the arrest, turning in his notary seal...and on and on.....
34 posted on 02/07/2003 8:17:27 AM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
"But we're normal!"


35 posted on 02/07/2003 8:24:42 AM PST by ErnBatavia ((Bumperootus!))
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To: kattracks
"Loser pays" would help.
36 posted on 02/07/2003 8:26:53 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: ErnBatavia
Thanks a lot, at least this pic was posted well before lunch.
37 posted on 02/07/2003 8:28:56 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: kattracks
And just what are they being sued for? For recording a public meeting?

38 posted on 02/07/2003 8:36:00 AM PST by TexanToTheCore
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To: EdReform
That lady who complained about the book her son was assigned for summer reading contacted the district attorney who told her that schools, libraries, and museums are exempt from state pornography laws.
39 posted on 02/07/2003 8:36:16 AM PST by ladylib
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To: madg

41 posted on 02/07/2003 10:01:04 AM PST by Remedy
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To: scripter
....I see your (ping) and raise you two! (ping ping_
42 posted on 02/07/2003 10:17:11 AM PST by GrandMoM (Spare the rod, spoil the child!)
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To: ladylib
"That lady who complained about the book her son was assigned for summer reading contacted the district attorney who told her that schools, libraries, and museums are exempt from state pornography laws."

That seems to be the case, according to the "General Laws of Massachusetts." However, we've been told many times by the pro-homosexual folks that this was a PRIVATE conference. And we've been told that GLSEN does not teach anything in the public schools. So then GLSEN is a PRIVATE organization, NOT "a bona fide school, museum or library." Why then, can't GLSEN be charged under Chapter 272, sections 28 and 29 for disseminating matter which is obscene? It was their private conference and they were responsible for protecting the kids from this obscene material.

As far as the public schools go, the best thing all parents can do to protect their children is to remove the homosexual advocates' "audience" by using the Hatch Amendment Letter - Parental Consent Form for use in the Public Schools. Let the pro-homos spout their propaganda and perversion to a bunch of empty chairs.

Seven Steps to Recruit-Proof Your Child

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43 posted on 02/07/2003 11:12:47 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: EdReform
if you think Tom Reilly the Attny Gen will bring this to Court you are dreaming. He is truely an evil man and probably suports the pervs.
45 posted on 02/07/2003 11:29:59 AM PST by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R./WWP is a commie front!!!!)
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To: madg
"See: Context Matters."

Context Matters was written by a lesbian who says she is "a self defined gay and lesbian activist, woman's rights activist, AIDS activist, child rights activist, and educator" who, at age 16, "fell in love with a woman for the first time and recognized it as being In Love." The author's bio is located here.

Here's what Ms Beal has to say:

Context Matters
by Cindy Beal

Uploaded on May 2, 2000. Last updated May 4, 2000.
Media links page last updated May 17, 2000.

"My information here is a based on a number of sources, primarily Margot Ables, one of the presenters of the workshops in question. It is also based on my own research and knowledge of the political right in Massachusetts, HIV/AIDS education, effective prevention programs, and Gay Straight Alliances. Although I ordered the tape of this workshop, as offered in the email version of this article, it has not yet arrived. Because of this I am as of yet unable to provide a transcript of the workshop (and until legal questions about the copyright, distribution and confidentiality questions are answered, I will not personally provide that transcript.) I stand by the facts as presented here insofar as I have been able to discover them."

Contex Matters is nothing more than homosexual propaganda. It presents the homosexual side of the story as written by a homosexual activist.

46 posted on 02/07/2003 11:45:06 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: Brookhaven
I can't imagine a medical doctor in their right mind that would recommend this activity. How can we be teaching this activity to kids?

The people who do this (and many support it) are evil and guilty of child abuse.

47 posted on 02/07/2003 12:19:09 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: ladylib
That lady who complained about the book her son was assigned for summer reading contacted the district attorney who told her that schools, libraries, and museums are exempt from state pornography laws.

Public services, including education and libraries, have become pornographers - and disseminate filth to your children - including homosexual pornography. They want your children.

48 posted on 02/07/2003 12:21:48 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: madg
Camenker and Whiteman broke the law. See Section Q for Civil Remedy. That is why they are being sued. It’s all in accordance with the General Laws of Massachusetts.

Teaching 14-yr. olds about fisting (a truly disgusting and filthy and revolting and dangerous act) is a form of child abuse. Anybody with an ounce of sense knows that. The legal niceties are irrelevant here. This was out-and-out child abuse of the most evil sort. When homosexual groups teach 14-yr. olds how to put one's fist up another person's anus, they are on the attack against children. They are evil.

49 posted on 02/07/2003 12:29:02 PM PST by yendu bwam
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