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PRO-LIFE ACTIVIST SAYS SHE GOT KOPP OUT OF U.S.
The Buffalo News ^ | February 8, 2003 | Matt Gryta

Posted on 02/08/2003 5:42:49 PM PST by Marianne

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To: general_re
You are still not going to know God's answer until the Final Judgment although we can all pretty well guess who a number of folks are who have not made it onto the Roll of Life, eh?!

BTW, God may have it in Him to forgive everything and everybody right up to the end. Men are of a lesser nature and need not be so gracious. There are folks who strive to achieve a "Christ-like life", but we all consider them whack jobs when they strive to achieve "Christ's life".

The biggest problem with antinomianism is it takes away your ability to differentiate between good and evil. A man would be better off to be a Budhist monk cloistered away in a mountain top monestary than to be an antinomianist taking upon himself the mantle of God, seeking to forgive the unforgiveable.

221 posted on 02/12/2003 7:07:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You are still not going to know God's answer until the Final Judgment although we can all pretty well guess who a number of folks are who have not made it onto the Roll of Life, eh?!

That, needless to say, does not make it okay for us to step in and substitute our judgement for His, which is precisely what Kopp presumed to do.

BTW, God may have it in Him to forgive everything and everybody right up to the end. Men are of a lesser nature and need not be so gracious.

What a curious doctrine. "We can't really be like Christ, so let's not even bother trying."

There are folks who strive to achieve a "Christ-like life", but we all consider them whack jobs when they strive to achieve "Christ's life".

We do? Did I miss the memo on this?

The biggest problem with antinomianism is it takes away your ability to differentiate between good and evil. A man would be better off to be a Budhist monk cloistered away in a mountain top monestary than to be an antinomianist taking upon himself the mantle of God, seeking to forgive the unforgiveable.

Phew. Sounds pretty hairy. I guess you have to ask yourself which is the greater sin, trying to forgive as God does, or trying to judge as God does. Kopp made his choice - what's yours?

222 posted on 02/12/2003 7:24:36 PM PST by general_re (APOLOGIZE, v.i.: To lay the foundation for a future offence.)
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To: general_re
Frankly, I don't belief Kopp's confession. He provided no new details that had not already been reported in the press.

This is unusual.

Interestingly enough, in that alleged confession he satisfied your narrow sectarian concern regarding "judging" and pointed out that he did not intend to kill the guy - he just wished to cripple him so that he would be put out of business. I presume you read that part - or did you?

Theologically Kopp is "your kind of guy", not mine! He too can be accused of being an antinomianist in this case - always looking for the hidden silver lining in the heart of an abortionist!

223 posted on 02/12/2003 7:38:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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Frankly, I don't belief Kopp's confession. He provided no new details that had not already been reported in the press. This is unusual.

Um, not accurate. Really REALLY not accurate.

My suggestion is writing the guy and getting his words. I'll guess he's what basically everyone else has come to believe - an extremist and a murderer.

224 posted on 02/12/2003 7:50:06 PM PST by Shryke
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To: Shryke
Time to prove that first assertion. FR is a good place for research on it since you can probably find every article ever published about the guy - even tv news reports!

Then, parse his alleged confession to identify anything new that wasn't previously published.

Then come back and see us.

225 posted on 02/12/2003 8:22:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Frankly, I don't belief Kopp's confession.

That is your prerogative, of course.

Interestingly enough, in that alleged confession he satisfied your narrow sectarian concern regarding "judging" and pointed out that he did not intend to kill the guy - he just wished to cripple him so that he would be put out of business. I presume you read that part - or did you?

Sure, I read it. That's the part I don't particularly believe, myself - he doesn't strike me as dumb enough to be able to honestly believe such a thing.

Theologically Kopp is "your kind of guy", not mine! He too can be accused of being an antinomianist in this case - always looking for the hidden silver lining in the heart of an abortionist!

Har har har. I can't help but notice that you believe him when it's convenient for you, and disbelieve him when what he says is inconvenient. How...convenient.

226 posted on 02/12/2003 8:25:46 PM PST by general_re ("Thank God I'm an atheist." - Luis Bunuel)
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