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How the Yellow Ribbon Became a National Folk Symbol (Gulf War)
Local GOV/Folklife Ribbons ^ | unknown | Gerald E Parson

Posted on 02/08/2003 8:46:00 PM PST by GailA

How the Yellow Ribbon Became a National Folk Symbol by Gerald E. Parsons

This article was originally printed in the Folklife Center News in the summer of 1991 (Volume XIII, #3, pp. 9-11). At that time the Persian Gulf War had inspired Americans to decorate their lapels and their front porches with yellow ribbons for the soldiers sent into combat, once again generating a storm of questions to librarians and folklorists about the origin of the custom. The late Gerald E. Parsons was a folklorist and a librarian in the Folklife Reading Room for twenty-one years.

During the last decade, no single form of expression documented in the Archive of Folk Culture has stimulated more letters, more phone calls, more in-person inquiries than the yellow ribbon. The questions began in 1981 when the Library of Congress recieved a blizzard of inquirires, particularly from the news media, about the history of yellow ribbons then being displayed everywhere in America in support of our troops in the Persian Gulf. The basic question that reporters had in mind was how the symbol came into being. Many callers had ideas of their own on the subject; some had interviewed the authors of relevant popular songs; others had spoken to wives of hostages in Iran in 1980-81. Still others had talked to historians of the Civil War.

Eventually a body of information accumulated, and I wrote an article for Folklife Center News entitled "Yellow Ribbons: Ties with Tradition" (volume IV, no. 2, April 1981). The article outlined the symbolic use of the ribbons in story, song, and real life; and the Folklife Center staff made good use of the article this year [1991], ten years after its publication, when a second blizzard of questions came in about the ribbons dispayed for soldiers serving in the Persian Gulf.

Is the custom of displaying yellow ribbons for an absent loved-one a genuine American tradition? That question was, and remains, "number one" on the American Folklife Center's hit parade of yellow ribbon reference inquiries. Often this same question has been asked in a more focused form: People will say, "Is this a Civil War tradition?" --as if an association with that central experience in American history would certify its authenticity.

In the last year or so, we of the reference staff at the Center have become aware of a certain shift: a movement from asking about a Civil War connection to asserting one. Some assertions on this subject have verged on the pugnacious; nearly all have made reference to the song "Round Her Neck She Wore A Yellow Ribbon." That song was recorded for the Archive of Folk Culture in 1938 by Sidney Robertson Cowell in California, but it is much older. For example, there is a Philadelphia printing from 1838 that copies still older British versions. Indeed in the last act of Othello, Desdamona sings one of the song's lyric ancestors.

One version or another of "Round Her Neck She Wore A Yellow Ribbon" has been popular now for four hundred years; so it would not surprise me to learn that someone sang it sometime during the Civil War. All I can say for sure, however, is that it was sung in a movie that was set in the western United States at a time just after the Civil War--a 1949 release starring John Wayne and Joanne Dru. In fact, Round Her Neck She Wore A Yellow Ribbon (the movie) took its title from the song. This film remains the only demonstrable connection between yellow ribbons and the Civil War that has come to my attention, and that a rather weak one.

If the custom of wearing or decorating with or displaying yellow ribbons doesn't trace to the Civil War, where does it come from? It begins, as far as I can tell, not as a custom at all, and not as a song. It begins as a folk tale--a legend, actually. Here it is in the earliest version I've found:

It is the story of two men in a railroad train. One was so reserved that his companion had difficulty in persuading him to talk about himself. He was, he said at length, a convict returning from five years' imprisonment in a distant prison, but his people were too poor to visit him and were too uneducated to be very articulate on paper. Hence he had written to them to make a sign for him when he was released and came home. If they wanted him, they should put a white ribbon in the big apple tree which stood close to the railroad track at the bottom of the garden, and he would get off the train, but if they did not want him, they were to do nothing and he would stay on the train and seek a new life elsewhere. He said that they were nearing his home town and that he couldn't bear to look. His new friend said that he would look and took his place by the window to watch for the apple tree which the other had described to him. In a minute he put a hand on his companion's arm. "There it is," he cried. "It's all right! The whole tree is white with ribbons."

That passage comes from, of all places, a 1959 book on prison reform. The title is Star Wormwood, and it was written by the eminent Pennsylvania jurist Curtis Bok. Bok says it was told to him by Kenyon J. Scudder, first superintendent of Chino penitentiary. I take this information as evidence that the story was in oral tradition as early as the mid-1950s. I note also the implication of a certain occupational interest in the tale.

During the 1960s, the returning prisoner story appeared in religious publications and circulated in oral tradition among young people active in church groups. In this environment, both the versions that appeared in print and those collected from oral tradition highlighted similarities to the New Testament "Parable of the Prodigal Son."

In October of 1971, Pete Hammill wrote a piece for the New York Post called "Going Home." In it, college students on a bus trip to the beaches of Fort Lauderdale make friends with an ex-convict who is watching for a yellow handkerchief on a roadside oak. Hammill claimed to have heard this story in oral tradition.

In June of 1972, nine months later, The Readers Digest reprinted "Going Home." Also in June 1972, ABC-TV aired a dramatized version of it in which James Earl Jones played the role of the returning ex-con. One month-and-a-half after that, Irwin Levine and L. Russell Brown registered for copyright a song they called "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree." The authors said they heard the story while serving in the military. Pete Hammill was not convinced and filed suit for infringement.

One factor that may have influenced Hammill's decision to do so was that, in May 1973, "Tie A Yellow Ribbon" sold 3 million records in three weeks. When the dust settled, BMI calculated that radio stations had played it 3 million times--that's seventeen continuous years of airplay. Hammill dropped his suit after folklorists working for Levine and Brown turned up archival versions of the story that had been collected before "Going Home" had been written.

In January 1975, Gail Magruder, wife of Jeb Stuart Magruder of Watergate fame, festooned her front porch with yellow ribbons to welcome her husband home from jail. The event was televised on the evening news (one of the viewers was Penne Laingen). And thus a modern folk legend concerning a newly released prisoner was transformed into a popular song, and the popular song, in turn, transformed into a ritual enactment. Notice that Jeb Stuart Magruder's return to his home exactly parallels the situation in both the folk narrative and the popular song. The new development, at this point, was that Gail Magruder put the story into action.

The next big step was to make the ribbon into an emblem--not for the return of a forgiven prodigal--but for the return of an imprisoned hero. And that step was Penne Laingen's: On November 4, 1979, Iranian revolutionaries seized the U.S. embassy in Teheran and held Ambassador Bruce Laingen and the rest of the embassy staff hostage.

Six weeks later, on December 10, the Washington Post printed two short articles by Barbara Parker: "Coping With `IRage'" and "Penne Laingen's Wait." The first article began "Americans are seething" and went on to quote psychologists concerning the widespread and intense emotional distress caused by the hostage crisis. The article presented a helpful list of things to do to "vent irage": "ring church bells at noontime . . . organize a neighborhood coffee to discuss the crisis and establish one ground rule only: no physical violence . . . play tennis and `whack the hell' out of the ball . . . offer family prayers or moments of silence . . . turn on car headlights during the day . . . send gifts to the needy `in the name of the hostages,'" and, of course, the old stand-by, "conduct candlelight vigils."

Then in the Post article come the words "Laingen, who has `tied a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree'. . . suggests that as something else others might do." The article concludes with Penne Laingen saying, "So I'm standing and waiting and praying . . . and one of these days Bruce is going to untie that yellow ribbon. It's going to be out there until he does." According to my current understanding, this is the first announcement that the yellow ribbon symbol had become a banner through which families could express their determination to be reunited.

The next major step was to move the ribbon out of the Laingen's front yard and into most of the front yards in the United States. That move came about in a particularly American way. With a wonderful exhibition of the spirit that Alexis de Tocqueville thought was a cardinal virtue of our society, the hostage families met and formed an association: the Family Liaison Action Group (FLAG). FLAG quickly found allies among existing humanitarian organizations, most notably an organization called No Greater Love.

The goal of FLAG and its allies was to find a way to bring moral force to bear on behalf of the hostages. They seem to have formed their strategy around Emerson's maxim that "A good symbol is the best argument, and is a missionary to persuade thousands." The symbol they choose for their argument was, of course, the yellow ribbon. Aided by support from four AFL-CIO unions, No Greater Love made and distributed ten thousand "yellow ribbon pins." These went to union members, members of hostage families, college students, and in a stroke of marketing genius, to TV weather forecasters. Meanwhile FLAG sent the pins to Junior Chambers of Commerce, scouting organizations, and governors' wives.

Ultimately, the thing that makes the yellow ribbon a genuinely traditional symbol is neither its age nor its putative association with the American Civil War, but rather its capacity to take on new meanings, to fit new needs and, in a word, to evolve.

And it is evolving still. During the Persian Gulf Crisis, for example, there emerged a new impulse to combine yellow ribbons with hand-painted signs, American flags, conventional Christmas ornaments, seasonal banners, and other such elements to create elaborate, decorative displays--displays that one scholar has termed "folk assemblages."

Because the yellow ribbon is very much a living tradition, there is no way to tell who among us may help to steer its course, or in what direction. Last winter, I was in a distant city and needed to buy a spray of flowers. I found a flower shop and explained to the proprietress that I needed an arrangement that would be appropriate for a cemetery ornament. "And would you like some yellow ribbon to tie around it," she asked matter-of-factly.

Well, it's a long way from a folktale about an ex-convict's homecoming to an incipient funeral custom. I had to stop and think about that for a minute. But never one to thwart the evolution of a new American custom, I said, "Yes, ma'am. I will take some yellow ribbon. Thank you."

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For further reading:

Jack Santino, "Yellow Ribbons and Seasonal Flags: The Folk Assemblege of War," Journal of American Folklore, 105, #1 (1992), pp. 19-33.

Tad Tuleja, "Closing the Circle: Yellow Ribbons and the Redemption of the Past," Usable Pasts: Traditions and Group Expressions in North America edited by Tad Tuleja, Logan, Utah, Utah State University Press, 1997, pp. 311-328.


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With war with Iraq maybe days away, it may be time to either revive the YELLOW RIBBON useded during the first Gulf War. Or choose another color to show support for our Troops, besides rallies.
1 posted on 02/08/2003 8:46:00 PM PST by GailA
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To: GailA
Thanks for the ping and the link,Gail!
2 posted on 02/08/2003 8:52:42 PM PST by Pippin
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To: GailA
Wish I had seen them by the time I got back they were all gone,first in first out is only a saying in the military.
3 posted on 02/08/2003 8:54:06 PM PST by noutopia
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To: GailA
What, no mention of Tony Orlando?
4 posted on 02/08/2003 8:58:40 PM PST by ZOOKER
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To: GailA
I remember reading that Readers' Digest article - must have been at the dentist! When Tony Orlando came out with his version, I immediately thought of the article and wondered whether that had been his inspiration.
5 posted on 02/08/2003 9:04:26 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: GailA
It should be the YELLOW RIBBON. I'm tying one on my tree tomorrow for my son in Oman and for every man and woman in service. I would love to see them all over town. Also, in WWII if you had an a family in active duty you put a white star with a navy blue background in your window, and a gold one if you had lost someone. I'm not sure that is correct, but I read it recently (probably here on FR). Let's do Yellow ribbons everywhere FReepers.
6 posted on 02/08/2003 9:05:21 PM PST by maranatha
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To: maranatha
YES! The yellow ribbon. Peaceniks all over the country are placing signs in their yard which state, "Peace is Patriotic." How could we counter that-and why should we? The old-fashioned yellow ribbon would do just fine. To me it would say to our troops, "You go in my stead, THANKS." Good suggestion...I am checking out my "arts & crafts" supplies now; I am sure I have yellow ribbon. I will put them on our pin oak trees out front for our armed service, so they will know. My next door neighbor with their "peace" sign will be none the wiser. (Her dog barks too much anyway.)
7 posted on 02/08/2003 9:14:08 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: zip; Prov3456; bretmilk; All
Yellow ribbons! How simple can we be? How could we not of thought of this. Do you have a tree (oak or not)? Tie a yellow ribbon round it. We need to tell our military we think of them.
8 posted on 02/08/2003 9:18:01 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: GailA
http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/hostagerescueattempt
9 posted on 02/08/2003 9:19:07 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: bluesagewoman
There you go! Yellow ribbons everywhere will give the message so beautifully...just like all the flags flying everywhere after 9-11. Stronger than words.
10 posted on 02/08/2003 9:27:59 PM PST by maranatha
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To: maranatha
You are correct about the banners in WWII, although it was a blue star on a white background with red trim on the outside of the banner (I have about 20 or 30 variations in my collection). There were also various other "Victory" banners for those who supported the war effort but did not have a family member in service. Additionally, there were special banners for those folks who worked in civilian jobs that supported the war effort.

FWIW, if you DO have a family member serving, you can get a new version of the "family member in service" star banner by contacting your local VFW (at least you can around these parts).

11 posted on 02/08/2003 9:28:43 PM PST by garandgal
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To: maranatha
Yes, they will! Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
12 posted on 02/08/2003 9:29:37 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: radu; Kathy in Alaska; All
Can you get this to Tonk? I can never remember all the letters to his screen name. This looks like a keeper!
13 posted on 02/08/2003 9:32:18 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: garandgal
Thanks for the information. I've been thinking about that and didn't know what was correct. I'll do that too. I think I'll write a letter to the editor in our town about the yellow ribbons and the banners.
14 posted on 02/08/2003 9:33:11 PM PST by maranatha
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To: bluesagewoman
I haven't checked the FR USO CANTEEN lately. I bet Snowbunny has already done that. She's such a hard worker and her heart is military 24/7.
15 posted on 02/08/2003 9:35:39 PM PST by maranatha
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To: GailA
The authors said they heard the story while serving in the military

sound like a "jodie" song.

I heard "Tie a Yellow Ribbon" when I was in high school- (grad 80)

but I also heard/sang varient in Basic-

Around, her neck, she wore a yellow ribbon
She wore it for her soldier who was far, far away.

Around, the block, she pushed a baby carriage
She pushed it for her soldier who was far, far away.

Behind, the door, her daddy kept a shotgun.
He kept it for the soldier who was far, far, away.

16 posted on 02/08/2003 9:36:16 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: maranatha
I am in no way trying to insult your efforts. But, I must say that I think yellow ribbons are a sentimental civilian trend. Put up flags and stars instead?

Our county fair was held days after 9/11 and all our military recruiting tents and stands had yellow ribbons.

I am sorry to say that I was verbally abusive to the military personell manning the stations.
17 posted on 02/08/2003 9:41:04 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: bluesagewoman; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
I already have the ribbon, just need to get out to the tree. Thanks for the ping, blue. Tonk, ping from bluesagewoman.


18 posted on 02/08/2003 9:42:24 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless America and Our Military Who Protect Her.)
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To: Conservababe
Hopefully, that will never happen again. We, as folks who support our military TODAY, (and probably in the past) NEED a symbol to make it easy, and meaningful NOW. A simple yellow ribbon will do just fine. The peaceniks have usurped the flag, we can do a ribbon. Civilians supporting our military is just what we want. So, we should go for it! Can civilians make a statement?
19 posted on 02/08/2003 9:48:15 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: bluesagewoman
I would prefer something other than the yellow ribbon. I prefer using something more of a patriotic nature, such was used in WWII. I find yellow ribbons to be a passive and pleading symbol.
20 posted on 02/08/2003 9:52:35 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: bluesagewoman; Kathy in Alaska
You're right on. We tied yellow ribbons during the Gulf War and I'm wearing again a button left over from that time that says "We support our Troops". Love your picture, Kathy.
21 posted on 02/08/2003 9:56:00 PM PST by maranatha
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To: Kathy in Alaska
Here is one from 9-11. May we NEVER forget!


22 posted on 02/08/2003 9:57:17 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: Conservababe
And besides, we are Freepers, and we can come up with an origional idea for our support of our troops. And when we have the idea, we can recruit our graphic specialists. We can do better than a trite yellow ribbon.
23 posted on 02/08/2003 9:58:13 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: Conservababe
We're praying for safe return...that's what the yellow ribbon means for most folks and most people would be quick to know if there are many trees on a street so adorned that it was for our troops. So, I will do it and will encourage others to do it. What would you suggest as more patriotic like from WWII which would be quickly understood as supporting the troops or the war?
24 posted on 02/08/2003 10:02:57 PM PST by maranatha
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To: Conservababe
Hey, once it is decided, let me know! I am just going by the old sentimental feeling of years gone by. If there is something better, (and easier), I'll go for it. Meanwhile, we could use a "gimmick" really quick, as the peaceniks like to take what is red, white and blue. Whatever is decided, we need to unite. That is the great thing about this forum!
25 posted on 02/08/2003 10:04:07 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: maranatha
There is just something about a yellow ribbon...call me old-fashioned, but it does feel right. But, whatever you all come up with, I'll hang the blasted thing out of my oak tree. OK?
26 posted on 02/08/2003 10:06:00 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: bluesagewoman
I was just curious as to what she was referring to in WWII. I am tying the yellow ribbon. She called it trite. I have never looked at a yellow ribbon on a tree and thought it "stale and uninteresting from overuse". And, if someone can come up with something new and more dynamic I'll do that too. I'm with you in that it has to be widely adopted whatever it is.
27 posted on 02/08/2003 10:11:59 PM PST by maranatha
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To: maranatha
See post #11.
28 posted on 02/08/2003 10:16:05 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: garandgal
The blue star in WWII in the window of a home indicated a family member killed in action.
29 posted on 02/08/2003 10:22:30 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: bluesagewoman
I'm trying to spread the word with my blog:

The Brazos de Dios Cantina

30 posted on 02/08/2003 10:27:20 PM PST by Alkhin (He thinks I need keeping in order.)
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To: edwin hubble
No, the blue star indicated a family member in service. In the case of death of said service member, the star color was changed to "gold". Most of the stars were sewn on, so one would have to sew a gold star over the blue star. I have one banner, however, in which the stars were "cut-outs"...it came with both a blue and a gold card to tape behind the cutouts to indicate the status of the "son-in-service".

The "Gold Star Mothers" group in WWII was comprised of women who had lost a family member in action.

31 posted on 02/08/2003 10:28:41 PM PST by garandgal
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To: GailA
I thought it was that Tony Orlando song. :-)
32 posted on 02/08/2003 10:29:40 PM PST by Jael
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To: Jael
I remember Tony Orlando's song. It came out at the time when our involvement in the Vietnam war was winding down and troops were starting to come home.
33 posted on 02/08/2003 10:37:32 PM PST by virgil
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To: GailA
While the tradition may go back to the Civil War, I don't think there is any question that the yellow ribbons were popularized by the Tony Orlando song.

The ribbons were first used to welcome the hostages back from Iran on (remember?) the first day of Ronald Reagan's Presidency. The Tony Orlando song (released in 1974) became a hit again. While it's true that the story originally came from an old Civil War story, the Tony Orlando song was what put it into American consciousness, or it would not have been used in 1980.


34 posted on 02/08/2003 10:44:02 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Jael
Oh, what the heck,

"Tie A Yellow Ribbon Round The Ole Oak Tree"

(As recorded by Tony Orlando & Dawn)
IRWIN LEVINE
L. RUSSELL BROWN

I'm comin' home I've done my time
Now I've got to know what is and isn't mine
If you received my letter tellin' you I'd soon be free
Then you'll know just what to do if you still want me
If you still want me.

Woah tie a yellow ribbon round the ole oak tree
It's been three long years, do ya still want me
If I don't see a ribbon round the ole oak tree
I'll stay on the bus, forget about us
Put the blame on me
If I don't see a yellow ribbon round the ole oak tree

Bus driver please look for me
'Cause I couldn't bear to see what I might see
I'm really still in prison and my love she holds the key
A simple yellow ribbon's what I need to set me free
I wrote and told her, please

Woah tie a yellow ribbon round the ole oak tree
It's been three long years do ya still want me
If I don't see a ribbon round the ole oak tree
I'll stay on the bus, forget about us
Put the blame on me
If I don't see a yellow ribbon round the ole oak tree

Now the whole damn bus is cheering
And I can't believe I see
A hundred yellow ribbons round the ole oak tree

I'm comin home, mmm hmm

Tie a ribbon round the ole oak tree
Tie a ribbon round the ole oak tree
Tie a ribbon round the ole oak tree

Tie a ribbon round the ole oak tree
Tie a ribbon round the ole oak tree
Tie a ribbon round the ole oak tree

And now that you've got that STUPID song stuck in my head, I only have the following to say,

Well I've been through the desert on a horse with no name

She ran calling Wildfire, Wildfire

Well, I thought happiness was Lubbock, Texas in my rear view mirror

Ain't no sunshine when she's gone, and I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, whatever

Mr. Big Stuff, who do you think you are?

Sugar, aw honey, honey. You are my candy girl, and you got me wantin you

And just to pay back anyone who ever mentions this song on Free Republic again:

Me and you and a dog named Boo, travelin and livin off the land

Oh, and Knock three times on the ceiling if you want me.

35 posted on 02/08/2003 10:58:11 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Conservababe; All
My husband and I purchased a "support banner" at a retail outlet not long ago, because it was similar to the WWII banners that we collect.

It is similar to the WWII banners in that it has the red border and white backgroud...but it has a blue "U.S.A." instead of the "star" that indicates a family member in service. We have it hanging in our window.

I shared this thread with him, and he promptly remembered that there was a website address where you can order them!! It is "americanheroes.cc". Click on "order service flag" to see the USA banner. Also, there are special flags for firefighters,etc...

36 posted on 02/08/2003 11:29:31 PM PST by garandgal
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To: Richard Kimball
I found a list of really bad 70's song's but I'll be nice and spare you. I'll just post the list of the top ten in 1973. :-)

The Top 10 Singles of 1973
1.
"Tie A Yellow Ribbon Round The Ole Oak Tree" - Dawn featuring Tony Orlando
2.
"Bad, Bad Leroy Brown" - Jim Croce ["Lover's Cross was a much better song.]
3.
"Crocodile Rock" - Elton John
4.
"My Love" - Paul McCartney & Wings
5.
"Let's Get It On" - Marvin Gaye
6.
"Touch Me In The Morning" - Diana Ross
7.
"Delta Dawn" - Helen Reddy
8.
"Playground In My Mind" - Clint Holmes [This is one song I can honestly say I have no memory of.]
9.
"Killing Me Softly With His Song" - Roberta Flack
10.
"Me And Mrs. Jones" - Billy Paul
37 posted on 02/09/2003 1:00:45 AM PST by Jael
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To: Richard Kimball
Ok, if you insist, here is the link.

http://www.furious.com/perfect/badsongs.html
38 posted on 02/09/2003 1:02:38 AM PST by Jael
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To: ZOOKER
What, no mention of Tony Orlando?

Or Dawn?

39 posted on 02/09/2003 1:35:49 AM PST by WKB
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To: GailA
FWIW...I have no idea why, but during the Gulf War when the rest of the country apparently was "tying yellow ribbons", our locale opted for orange instead.
40 posted on 02/09/2003 5:43:22 AM PST by hoosier_RW_conspirator
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To: garandgal
Thank you so much for your url to the site in post #36. I ordered the support banner. Now, I need some victory yard signs. Anyone know where these can be purchased?
41 posted on 02/09/2003 7:57:51 AM PST by Conservababe
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To: garandgal
"No, the blue star indicated a family member in service. In the case of death of said service member, the star color was changed to "gold". "

Thanks. I knew there was a 'star' designation of some kind during WWII for a combat death in the family.
42 posted on 02/09/2003 8:30:17 AM PST by edwin hubble
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To: maranatha
Get on your local talk radio and suggest this to the listening audience in your area. I've emailed my talk host. He's not said a word yet. There is a Navy base BUPERS (pencil pushers) about 20 miles North of Memphis.

Don't forget your car antenna or a small one for your dress/shirts. You can use a small US flag to hold it in place getting the best of both symbolism.

43 posted on 02/09/2003 10:50:21 AM PST by GailA (stop PAROLING killers Throw Away the Keys http://keasl5227.tripod.com/)
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To: GailA
SUGGESTION to satisfiy many. Tie the YELLOW Ribbon to the tree, INSERT an American flag inside the bow.

IF you wear a ribbon on your clothes pin it on with an American flag pin like GW wears.

If you can buy a spool of yellow ribbon and make extras to hand out. Folks won't go out of their way to go make one, BUT if you give it to them they will wear it.

44 posted on 02/09/2003 10:57:39 AM PST by GailA (stop PAROLING killers Throw Away the Keys http://keasl5227.tripod.com/)
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To: GailA
After granting every ribbon user his good intentions, somehow the color does not seem right.
45 posted on 02/09/2003 11:04:29 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: GailA
Bump
46 posted on 02/09/2003 11:07:05 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: SAMWolf
Can be bought here Click here

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They are reasoanable priced.

47 posted on 02/09/2003 12:17:12 PM PST by GailA (stop PAROLING killers Throw Away the Keys http://keasl5227.tripod.com/)
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To: GailA

I like this one.

48 posted on 02/09/2003 12:20:12 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: garandgal
There were also various other "Victory" banners for those who supported the war effort but did not have a family member in service.

Can you tell me what the Victory banners look like, the colors and wording? I am going to try to make my own yard sign as I cannot find one to order. Thanks

49 posted on 02/09/2003 12:42:48 PM PST by Conservababe
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I have tons of Victory items from WWII, including banners, posters, drinking glasses, even a cheese box! They are all red, white, and blue in some variation. They don't always say "Victory"...many just use the letter "V" and/or its morse code equivalent "..._"

Several also incorporate a message besides the "V" or "Victory", such as "Remember Pearl Harbor" or "Keep 'Em Flying". Maybe you could incorporate "Remember 9-11" in some way.

There is one banner that could be used today, just as easily as then. It has a large "V" in the center, the words "For Victory" arching across the top, the American flag displayed vertically on the left side, and the British flag displayed vertically on the right.

Another is shaped like an upside down triangle. It is white with red trim, with a large blue "v". In the center of the "v" is a red heart. Across the top it says "Our heart is in Victory".

Yet another, has the US Flag superimposed over a large "V", with the words "We can..we will..we must" across the bottom.

I have a set of drinking glasses that have the "V" with scantily clad pinup girls dressed as nurses, air raid wardens, etc. But, you probably don't want to stop traffic..LOL!!

Hope this helped a little! Let me know if you need more info...maybe I could find some pictures someplace for you. BTW, the "peace sign" the hippies use is actually the "Victory" sign from WWII. I laugh every time I see them!

50 posted on 02/09/2003 4:54:51 PM PST by garandgal
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