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60 minutes: Glock VP supports ballistic fingerprinting
60 minutes ^ | February 9, 2003 | self

Posted on 02/09/2003 7:48:07 PM PST by Mulder

I didn't watch 60 minutes tonight, but according to several folks who did watch, one of the Vice Presidents of Glock stated he supports ballistic fingerprinting on a national level.

If true, this is a total sellout of gun owners in America.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ballistic; banglist; betrayal; bushmaster; fingerprinting; glock; guncontrol; sw
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To: Mulder
You may recall that Glock and Ruger were ready to go lock-step with Smith & Wesson to sell out our rights -- until they heard the fan motor loading up . . .
21 posted on 02/09/2003 9:08:41 PM PST by Crowcreek
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To: Crowcreek
I recall Bill Ruger having some funny notions...
22 posted on 02/09/2003 9:11:38 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: Mulder
Must be fate. I busted my Glock today for the second time - the "indestructable" Glock, right? Trigger return spring. Crap.

Well, Mr. Kimber hasn't let me down yet.

23 posted on 02/09/2003 9:13:26 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Mulder
I'm not a gun nut, and don't even own any guns at the moment. (I also live in a densely populated suburb, Greenwich, CT, where most murders are done with golf clubs by Kennedy cousins, but I digress). Anyway, how hard is it to change the "fingerprint" of a barrel. Could you do it with a coat hanger? just ham it down the barrel to make new striations? Or would it require more?
24 posted on 02/09/2003 9:24:05 PM PST by Koblenz (There's usually a free market solution you know)
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To: isthisnickcool
Here's how a liberal hears what you just said;

Ears plugged, "la la la la la la la la la..."

It's not the fingerprints they want, it's names, addresses and serial numbers. It's called a gun owner registry.
25 posted on 02/09/2003 9:47:45 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Okie by proxy)
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To: Mulder
Next "they'll enact a law requiring all guns to get fingerprinted."

Finally, they'll come knocking at your door at 3 am to confiscate your fingerprinted, registered firearm.
26 posted on 02/09/2003 9:52:00 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Okie by proxy)
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To: Mulder
Knowing this, I'll stick with my 1911.
27 posted on 02/09/2003 9:57:38 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Yippee Kai Aye......")
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To: Mulder
It's a shame to see this. S&W, Ruger, Glock...who's next?

I don't own or would not by a Glock. They might well be excellent guns, but uuuuuglyyy!

I do own lot's of S&Ws, Rugers, Colts, Brownings, Remingtons, Winchesters etc., and would hate to see more treacherous behavior like what S&W is now trying to rectify. That's just not good customer relations.
28 posted on 02/09/2003 10:04:15 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Okie by proxy, raised by Yankees, temporarily Californian)
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To: AdamSelene235
FYI.
29 posted on 02/09/2003 10:13:02 PM PST by coloradan
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To: Mulder
Rule 3, line 4 , paragraph 12, subsection b......Vote withs yer money ! Worked on Short & Whimpy Inc.......:o)

Stay Safe !

30 posted on 02/10/2003 12:02:31 AM PST by Squantos (RKBA the original version of Homeland Security .....the one proven method that works !)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
"That's just not good customer relations."

I would say that actions like that are just not good for the survival of America. In my opinion, another dangerous and unreliable manufacturer (not in terms of product quality) is Bushmaster, maker of an AR-15 variant in Maine. For reasons, read the details in the link below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/824084/posts
31 posted on 02/10/2003 4:37:18 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The Glock plant is in Marietta, Georgia. Beretta has a plant in the People's Republic of Maryland.
32 posted on 02/10/2003 4:41:54 AM PST by Jonah Hex
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To: Squantos
Vote withs yer money !

Or perhaps we will eventually have to vote this way!!


Stay safe; stay armed.


33 posted on 02/10/2003 4:50:10 AM PST by Eaker (64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: Mulder
Very old news. A couple of years back the Glock annual had a thing about ballistic fingerprinting and how they worked to prove that it could be effective.
34 posted on 02/10/2003 4:53:31 AM PST by zx2dragon
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To: Mulder
Some information about Glock and S&W and ballistic 'fingerprinting' from the 'Americans for Gun Safety' organization (written, no doubt, by a fifth columnist):

http://w3.agsfoundation.com/s_finger1.html

35 posted on 02/10/2003 5:57:23 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: Mulder
Didn't Glock hear about what happened to Smith & Wesson when they turned their back on the Second Amendment?
36 posted on 02/10/2003 6:12:55 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: WorkingClassFilth
I remember you on that thread. Very valid opinion.

The safety of a free America depends on the private ownership of the same arms a foot soldier carries at whatever given point in time as to be competitive in the overthrough of a tyranny; up to and including sniper rifles, combat rifles(or whatever it is they call assault rifles)shotguns, sidearms, hand grenades and light machine guns(M-60?).

I believe that was the intention of the 2nd Ammendment by the founding fathers.

The advance of a gun owner registry is solely designed to allow for the incrimental dissarming of the citizens. When an arms manufacturer cooperates with gun registration, whether to financially proffit, or just to survive, they must be boycotted by the consumers in order to befuddle the effort.
37 posted on 02/10/2003 7:54:40 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Okie by proxy, raised by Yankees, temporarily Californian)
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To: Eaker
LOL.....hey I thought you died ! BTW I love that tag line and the pic. Consider it stolen as of .................now !

Stay Safe

38 posted on 02/10/2003 8:25:55 AM PST by Squantos (RKBA the original version of Homeland Security .....the one proven method that works !)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
Thanks.

Gun owners and others truly interested in civil-rights are often lulled by persons or agencies that are related to their industry and cause do not offer direct opposition to the rights they seek to protect. The sloppy thinking is roughly along the lines that since a company is in the business of making firearms, then surely they must side with the citizenry on issues of firearm ownership...

This is a critical mistake.

It may seem extreme, but I would rather spend my dollars with firms that clearly demonstrate commitment to 2A rights with memberships or funding of the NRA or GOA or in support of legislation to protect 2A rights, build shooting ranges, fund training camps or programs for kids, etc. Simply putting an American flag on your promotional literature doesn't cut jack with me.

Through consumer pressure, the Left has managed to put many businesses on the rather shakey ground of proving their commitment to environmental goals like 'sustainability' or 'greeness' or whathaveyou. Freedom loving Americans ought to do the same for the sake of future freedom with the industries and vendors that make their living from the 2A, because the unscrupulous among them will gladly make the machine guns needed to do away with the same 2A and individual freedom.
39 posted on 02/10/2003 8:28:43 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Glock Inc makes BIG BUCKS from law enforcement sales. They probably think cops support this "crime fighting" initiative, and may view it as socially responsible.

Glock is less sensitive to consumer pressure because of their enormous law enforcement presence.

Still, they can't afford to irritate gun owners in the S&W fashion.

I would not be surprised if the VP's comments were used OUT OF CONTEXT, given the reputation of CBS and 60 Minutes.

40 posted on 02/10/2003 8:46:02 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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