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HOW DARE THE FRENCH FORGET
New York Post ^ | 2/10/03 | STEVE DUNLEAVY

Posted on 02/10/2003 7:41:28 AM PST by Republican Red

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:12:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

February 10, 2003 -- COLLEVILLE-SUR-MER, France - They stand only 3 feet high, but they're towering mountains of sacrifice. I'm standing in the American Cemetery. Gray clouds hang low as if in mourning for the nearly 10,000 young Americans buried beneath crosses and Stars of David that stretch as far as the eye can see.


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1 posted on 02/10/2003 7:41:28 AM PST by Republican Red
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To: Republican Red
A caller to the Liddy show just floated the idea that Americans should take up a collection to finance the exhumation and bringing home of the remains of our was dead at Normandy.
2 posted on 02/10/2003 7:46:42 AM PST by dasboot (Glass definitely half-full...and rising! Thanks, GWB)
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To: Republican Red
wow..makes me so mad! I hope no one vacations or spends money over there!
3 posted on 02/10/2003 7:48:14 AM PST by Jewels1091
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To: dasboot
war dead
4 posted on 02/10/2003 7:48:25 AM PST by dasboot (Glass definitely half-full...and rising! Thanks, GWB)
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To: Republican Red
I've been teary eye ever since I saw the picture of the BRAVE soldiers who are buried there!! That picture needs to be posted here OVER AND OVER AGAIN, so that we will NEVER FORGET the great Sacrifice of life and freedom our men gave!! PLEASE POST IT!
5 posted on 02/10/2003 7:52:13 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: dasboot
That is an interesting idea. It seems those cemetaries will be lost on future generations who don't want to know or don't care to know how they came to become a free country due to the Americans. It would probably make alot of American families happy to take their loved ones home. This would have to pick up alot of momentum to even have a glimmer of hope though.
6 posted on 02/10/2003 7:53:07 AM PST by areafiftyone (The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
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To: Republican Red
This reminds me of a story about LBJ, when he was majority leader in the Senate. He'd gone to France and was meeting with DeGualle (sp?). DeGaulle was ranting on and on about America and LBJ was quickly losing patience. So he interrupted and told DeGualle that he was going to go back to Washington and order the Senate to pass a bill to "dig up the remains of every American soldier buried in France, and ship them back to the US for burial, starting with those at Normandy." DeGualle never spoke to LBJ in that manner again.

That's one of the few stories about LBJ that makes me smile.

So maybe we should pass a bill to return the remains of our soldiers home to America again, starting with those in Normandy?
7 posted on 02/10/2003 7:55:13 AM PST by theDentist (So..... This is Virginia..... where are all the virgins?)
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To: dasboot
If that happens, let me know because I want to contribute. I don't know when I have been as livid at a Country as I am at France. We sacrificed many American lives to liberate that Country -- how soon they forget!

The French need to get a clue -- "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it..."

Siding with Germany only makes German Nationalism grow stronger and you would think that would worry the French. The European Union seems to be all about giving power back to the Germans over Europe. Believe the Eastern European countries who lived so long under the rule of the Communist can see it but the French sure do not seem to understand!

8 posted on 02/10/2003 7:55:46 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: dasboot
See my post #7.
9 posted on 02/10/2003 7:56:47 AM PST by theDentist (So..... This is Virginia..... where are all the virgins?)
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To: Republican Red
In Flanders Fields

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.


10 posted on 02/10/2003 7:57:09 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . the French are a bunch of ingrates . . . .)
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To: PhiKapMom
I know there are many French who don't like their socialist government. Maybe the threat of bringing our boys home will embolden them to act for a regime-change in France.

If that doesn't happen, I think it prudent to get our dead out of there, before their resting places are physically desecrated.

Any US security there?

11 posted on 02/10/2003 8:03:25 AM PST by dasboot (Glass definitely half-full...and rising! Thanks, GWB)
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To: Republican Red
My brother fought across France into Germany. Died to free France because they would not fight for their own freedom. Rotten French.
12 posted on 02/10/2003 8:05:24 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Republican Red
My husband's college history professor used to say that all wars came down to economics. The French and the Germans think that they have too much to lose in a war with Iraq. Maintenance of the status quo is imperative to save their economies.

France and Germany thought that they were on a role with the formation of the European Union. They thought that they were going to control all of Europe and finally become the world power to compete with the US. Now, we have thrown that all into doubt with our war with Iraq.
13 posted on 02/10/2003 8:05:53 AM PST by Eva
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To: Republican Red
Hey France...

You bunch of Cheese eating surrender Monkeys!

14 posted on 02/10/2003 8:05:57 AM PST by Area51
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To: dasboot
No security there to speak of. French kicked our military out in the mid 1960's (finally looked it up) when they withdrew from NATO.

That may be the only thing that wakes up the citizens of France as to what their Government has become!
15 posted on 02/10/2003 8:11:26 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: cynicom
My childhood mentor was liberated from a POW camp by French Forces of the Interior.

My wife's uncle was a bomber-pilot, shot down over France, and whisked safely back to Britain by that same FFI.

Has that sentiment evaporated completely from among the French? I think not; but those freedom-fighters must now, again, act. I don't hear their voices. Are they speaking, but filtered out by the media?

16 posted on 02/10/2003 8:11:52 AM PST by dasboot (Glass definitely half-full...and rising! Thanks, GWB)
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To: Republican Red
The Wall Street Journal had a quote made by Colin Powell at the Davos conference recently. I think he said it about as well as can be said,

" We have gone forth from our shores repeatedly in the last hundred years...and put wonderful young men and women at risk, many of whom have lost their lives, and we have asked for nothing except enough ground to bury them in."

I haven't seen this reported anywhere else, which is surprising for such a powerful statement by a world leader.

17 posted on 02/10/2003 8:18:05 AM PST by JeanLM
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To: dasboot
A caller to the Liddy show just floated the idea that Americans should take up a collection to finance the exhumation and bringing home of the remains of our was dead at Normandy.

Here's a thought: Pull the plug on the planned national WWII Memorial and use the donated funds to return those men to American soil. Heck, maybe Speilberg and Hanks will re-work the commercial.

18 posted on 02/10/2003 8:19:33 AM PST by Charles Martel
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To: dasboot
When the French embassies turned our desperate diplomats away in Tehran, the Canadians gave us sanctuary. Wither the Canadians, now? Same with the few French who actually resisted the Nazis.
19 posted on 02/10/2003 8:22:02 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: RoseofTexas

20 posted on 02/10/2003 8:24:50 AM PST by RoughDobermann
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To: AnAmericanMother
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

***************

I almost posted this last night.
Belgium broke faith, dropped the torch.

Hey, half that country speaks German, the other speaks French. It was inevitable that they would join the Axis of Weasel.

21 posted on 02/10/2003 8:27:24 AM PST by Charles Martel
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To: theDentist
"That's one of the few stories about LBJ that makes me smile."

BS from the man who micro-managed the Viet Nam war and was directly responsible for thousands of America deaths and injuries. I detest him more than clinton.

22 posted on 02/10/2003 8:28:14 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: dasboot
boot...

Point well taken..However if you delve into the records, you will find that the FFI were generally but not always communists, being directed from Moscow. Their actual goal was to take over the government once France was free. They were thwarted by De Gaulle. Therefore, risking their necks had a very evil motivation.

Ike let Gen. LeClerc have the honor of "liberating" Paris, course the Germans had already left peacefully. The irony of it was that most of the "French" troops that liberated Paris were actually Spanish communist volunteers.

History has a way of hiding things that do not square with public perception.

23 posted on 02/10/2003 8:30:01 AM PST by cynicom
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To: dasboot
The French are now "Freedom Fighters", but in the sense of against rather than for.
24 posted on 02/10/2003 8:30:19 AM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: PhiKapMom
Read this thread I started last nght about the French connection to Iraq and Al Qaeda.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/839529/posts


25 posted on 02/10/2003 8:35:52 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: Republican Red
August 25, 1944 is the date of the triumphal entry of the allies into liberated Paris and the entire city was in a state of jubilation. What is less known is that just a short 2 or 3 months previous to this, captured U.S. bomber crews were paraded through those same streets to the jeering and spitting of these same people.

Difficult to deal with people whose loyalties are fickle.

26 posted on 02/10/2003 8:37:41 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: WestCoastGal
Thanks for the link! I should have posted on there so I could find it this morning! I skimmed it last night and wanted to go back and read it this morning but I couldn't remember the name of the thread!
27 posted on 02/10/2003 8:41:02 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Dear Lord how appropriate. Damn the French.
28 posted on 02/10/2003 8:43:55 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Republican Red

Ze French?

Cowards?

Mon Dieu!

No! No!

One thousand times no!

29 posted on 02/10/2003 8:48:33 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Republican Red
I have walked the American cemetary in Kerkraden, Nethrlands located by the Belgium and German border. It is impossible to describe the feelings i had. Especially knowing that an uncle of mine is memoralized on a wall in Italy.

The point I wish to make is that all of those fellow Americans gave their lives in the defense of all these countries. It makes me sick how we are portrayed in the media there and the constant brainwashing that goes on.

I am one who hates war. I am also one who believes freedom comes with a heavy price and sometimes it takes force to preserve it. I wish these anti American regimes would realize our true intent protection of their sorry butts again but I hold little hope for that having lived among them for a couple of years.

Thank goodness we have a President standing up to tyrants who will threaten us and blackmail us.
30 posted on 02/10/2003 8:56:06 AM PST by landerwy
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To: cynicom
Unfortunately, the same was true of most of the Greek Resistance fighters. Once the war was over, they turned on their own people. The movie "Eleni", with John Malkovich and Kate Nelligan is a good depiction of what happened in Northern Greece after the war.
31 posted on 02/10/2003 9:01:14 AM PST by alethia
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To: Trust but Verify
Here's another, more complicated, view of the sacrifices made for France. It's WWI, and an English viewpoint, but it does give an impression of the scope of the sacrifice - when Helen Turrell stands in the new-made cemetery:

She climbed a few wooden-faced earthen steps and then met the entire crowded level of the thing in one held breath. She did not know Hagenzeele Third counted twenty-one thousand dead already. All she saw was a merciless sea of black crosses, bearing little strips of stamped tin at all angles across their faces. She could distinguish no order or arrangement in their mass; nothing but a waist-high wilderness as of weeds stricken dead, rushing at her.

Rudyard Kipling, The Gardener

How soon they forget . . .

32 posted on 02/10/2003 9:04:22 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . supposing him to be the gardener . . .)
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To: alethia
Quite true. My dad was one of the American JAG who helped supervise the Greek elections right after the war.

A task made difficult by Communists shooting at him, his sergeant, his interpreter and their four mules (one for the ballot boxes!) But he said the really tough part was having to eat those !@#$)((^%* sheeps' eyeballs!

It's o.k., he says it was worth it.

33 posted on 02/10/2003 9:06:07 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . but he couldn't eat lamb for 30 years . . . :-D)
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To: alethia
alethia...

Very true, the Brits had to send thousands of troops to protect Greek freedom from their own people. They can thank Churchill for that.

34 posted on 02/10/2003 9:09:49 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Republican Red
Proposed protest sign:

BRING HOME OUR FIGHTING MEN...
FROM FRANCE
35 posted on 02/10/2003 9:12:49 AM PST by JimRed
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To: Republican Red

36 posted on 02/10/2003 9:14:27 AM PST by finnman69 (!)
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To: Republican Red
remember the french heroes of the maginot line...
37 posted on 02/10/2003 9:19:18 AM PST by Bill Davis FR
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To: Republican Red

38 posted on 02/10/2003 9:21:03 AM PST by ppaul
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To: cynicom
Thanks: I get it, now.
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39 posted on 02/10/2003 9:51:10 AM PST by dasboot (Glass definitely half-full...and rising! Thanks, GWB)
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