FREEP This MSNBC Poll!

MSNBC ^ | Feb.10, 2003 | Unknown

[conservativecorner]

France and Germany: U.S. enemies?

Yes 45% No 55%

[nicmarlo]

FReeped and bumped!!!

[latrans]

Watch and learn. Dark of the moon.

[JimRed]

I voted, but it won't let me freep it! Whazzz up with THAT?

To FReep a poll does not (or at least should not) mean to vote more than once; that is cheating and best left to the Left. FReeping means to get as many like minded folks as possible to respond.

[rbmillerjr]

Freep this poll and send a message.

[MurryMom]

I think it is pathetic that you have forgotten our enemies' message of 9/11.

How many of our enemies of 9/11 were/are citizens of Iraq or received aid and comfort from Iraq? If the message of 9/11 is so important, why hasn't little Dumbya declared war (yet) on Saudi Arabia and Egypt?

Like Reps. Ron Paul, Jim Leach and other elected Republican officials, I'm not persuaded that attacking Iraq at this time serves the best interests of the U.S. or of world peace.

[MurryMom]

Neither can Trent Lott. That's why he's been canned.

[MurryMom]

France and Germany and Russia are not with us at this time because it is not in their financial interest. Follow the money.

Countries such as Albania, the Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, and Romania are with us. Isn't it telling, that countries who just recently emerged from totalitarian governments are with us 100%. They know the horrors of living under a brutal regime. They have experienced the joys of freedom. That's why they are with us.

IOW, Albanians and the Czechs, Poles, Hungarians, and Romanians live in smaller countries that Bush can buy off easily. Bush still hasn't met the price that France, Germany, Russia et al. are asking for their cooperation in Bush's war. Yes, I follow the money too.

[baseballmom]

sorry about the post. It was meant for the DU infiltrator.

That's OK.

Actually, MurryMom is not a DU infiltrator. She has been here longer than I have - probably longer than most of us.

Her viewpoint is totally different than mine. I don't mind that, - debate is good. But I do weary of the ugly tone of many of her posts. That's not debate, it's taunting, and unworthy of a serious debater.

[Coleus]

France and Germany: U.S. enemies?
* 6955 responses
Yes
46% No
54%

[baseballmom]

IOW, Albanians and the Czechs, Poles, Hungarians, and Romanians live in smaller countries that Bush can buy off easily. Bush still hasn't met the price that France, Germany, Russia et al. are asking for their cooperation in Bush's war.

Freedom has no price, something that these countries know very well.

The freedom of France and Germany was paid for in American blood. How quickly they forget. And yet, Americans would (and probably will) spill their blood for them again.

[WOSG]

The 8 European nations that signed up with Blair and that support the US approach have displayed *far more* reason than the leftist Govt in Germany and than the French.

There is nothing 'reasoned' about appeasement to dictators, complacency in the face of growing threats, and cowardly failure to show resolution in the face of defiance.

Moreover, the 'cost' of military deployment through sanctions dwarfs the cost of deployment in the last months - yet our current buildup has done more than 12 years of sanctions to actually move Saddam in the right direction.

What is truly embarrassing is trying to save the a** of a dictator - Saddam - who killed millions, including hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Kurds, who tortures and kills dissidents and would-be threats to hiw power, and who is the world's #1 Warmonger.

I was in Munich 2 days back. The "anti-war" protesters inlcuded a contingent of Communists waving hammer and sickle and "Che Gueverra" flags. That is how debased the so-called 'antiwar' movement is - it brings in Communists to defend an Islamic dictator who reveres Hitler and Stalin.

Anyone who still thinks Iraq doesnt have WMD after powell's speech is deaf, dumb, and blind.

[Salvation]

France and Germany: U.S. enemies? * 7844 responses
	Yes  45%		No  55%
Survey results tallied every 60 seconds. Live Votes reflect respondents' views and are not scientifically valid surveys.

[glennaro]

You continue to miss the clear message of our enemies: 9/11 showed that we are vulnerable to attack by zealots who want to kill us. In mobile terrorism, the nationality of our enemies is far less important than is the ability of a well-organized, well-funded state to equip them with the weapons and logistics to carry out their deadly plans.

At present, neither the Saudi Arabian nor Egyptian government pose a threat to us. Iraq most assuredly does.

We can certainly disagree over the need for and effectiveness of war to solve this immediate and serious threat, but your disdain for those who do not agree with you -- specifically, the President -- reduces your argument to nothing more than a name-calling temper tantrum. I suspect you are more thoughtful -- and more respectful of intellectual debate -- than that.

[MurryMom]

Anyone who still thinks Iraq doesnt have WMD after powell's speech is deaf, dumb, and blind.

And anyone who thinks Iraq has any nuclear weapons after all of Bush's lies and exaggerations have been exposed is engaged in mindless wishful thinking. Even if Bush's claim about Iraq trying to purchase aluminum alloy tubes is true, hundreds of other materials would have had to be purchased and assembled before Iraq could make a nuclear reactor to begin the process of making a nuclear weapon. Because Bush never even alleged that Iraq is also assembling those hundreds of other materials, I'm inclined to accept Iraq's explanation that the aluminum alloy tubes were intended for making conventional missiles. Bush never said he had any evidence that Iraq's claim is false.

Regarding Powell's speech, why accept the word of a shill for Bush whose "evidence" was based upon the 12 year old writings of a U.S. grad student?

[mtbrandon49]

Freeped and Bumped