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Spotted owl off the endangered species list
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/5149938.htm ^ | 2/10/03 | Don Thompson - AP

Posted on 02/10/2003 4:03:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SACRAMENTO - The federal government decided today that the California spotted owl, a symbol in the battle over old-growth forests, does not need protection under the Endangered Species Act at this time.

Environmental groups immediately said they will sue to overturn the ruling.


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KEYWORDS: endangered; enviralists; esa; species; spottedowl
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1 posted on 02/10/2003 4:03:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
YEEEHAW! Time to gas up the ol' chainsaw!!
2 posted on 02/10/2003 4:04:30 PM PST by Redcloak (Jn th lton t Prvnt the bs of nnssrl Lngth, Vrbs nd Nnsnsl Tg Lns)
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To: Redcloak
From Sac Bee



A California Spotted owl is shown in Point Reyes, in June 1995.

AP Photo/ Tom Gallagher, file

California spotted owl denied endangered species protection

Associated Press
Published 1:24 p.m. PST Monday, February 10, 2003

SACRAMENTO -- The federal government decided Monday that the California spotted owl, a symbol in the battle over old-growth forests, does not need protection under the Endangered Species Act at this time.

Environmental groups immediately said they will sue to overturn the ruling.

The decision by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service relies in part on owl protection plans in the Sierra Nevada Framework -- protection plans the U.S. Forest Service says will likely be substantially altered.

"The overall magnitude of current threats to the California spotted owl does not rise to a level requiring federal protection," the Fish and Wildlife Service concluded after a yearlong review, meeting a court-ordered decision date.

The medium-size brown mottled owl still exists in all or most of its historic range, from the Sierra Nevada and the central coastal range to the mountain ranges of Southern California. About 2,200 nesting sites or territories have been identified in recent surveys, the Fish and Wildlife Service said.

The closely related northern spotted owl, which became a symbol in the fight over logging in the Pacific Northwest a decade ago, already is listed as "threatened" under the act, as is the Mexican spotted owl. The California owl is recognized as a "sensitive" species by the Forest Service, and as a "species of special concern" by the state Department of Fish and Game.

But while some study areas showed population declines, "the service found no clear statistical evidence to show that the California spotted owl is declining throughout its range."

Steve Thompson, manager of the Fish and Wildlife Service's California-Nevada office in Sacramento, said the decision was based in part on the Clinton administration-approved Sierra Nevada Framework, as well as on commercial timber harvest plans that together would result in more owl habitat.

However, the service is "keenly aware" the framework is being reviewed by its counterpart federal agency at the Bush administration's direction, Thompson said.

"Because the outcome of these efforts could substantially affect California spotted owls, we will ... review the effects at a later date, if necessary," Thompson said.

More logging is needed, said Forest Service spokesman Matt Mathes, because that allowed under the original framework doesn't do enough to protect the owl from catastrophic wildfires like the one near several Giant Sequoia National Monument groves that destroyed some owl nesting sites last year.

Forest Service officials met Monday with owl scientists and wildfire experts to review their proposed revisions, and will meet this week with Fish and Wildlife and other federal agency officials prior to coming up with a final proposal next month.

"Our goal is the same as the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service," Mathes said. "We want to keep the California spotted owl off the endangered species list. We've done it for 10 years and we want to see it continued."

Both Mathes and Thompson said there may be "difficult trade-offs" by doing short-term harm to some owl habitat to prevent wildfires that could wipe out that habitat in the long run.

Noah Greenwald, a conservation biologist with the Center for Biological Diversity, said his organization will sue to overturn a finding he blamed on pressure from the Bush administration. The center, along with the Sierra Nevada Protection Campaign, had petitioned for the federal protection designation.

The finding not only ignores pending framework revisions, but plans by giant Sierra Pacific Industries to substantially clear-cut its property in the Sierra, Greenwald said. However, the Anderson, Calif.-based company has said its plans will protect the owl.

Greenwald also objected to Forest Service plans to experiment with the effects of logging in two Northern California forests, fire prevention efforts he said will endanger 176 owl sites.

"The Forest Service should take note that the framework is critical to the owl, and they should not dismantle it -- or they're looking at a future (Endangered Species Act) listing and the hammer will really drop," said Wilderness Society regional director Jay Watson.

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On the Net:

Fish and Wildlife Service, Sacramento: http://sacramento.fws.gov

Endangered Species program: http://endangered.fws.gov/

3 posted on 02/10/2003 4:06:54 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: *Enviralists; farmfriend; madfly
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
4 posted on 02/10/2003 4:08:08 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Redcloak
GET, the Bar-B-Que Ready...:)
5 posted on 02/10/2003 4:09:25 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just be because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: NormsRevenge
I just picked up a case of Spotted Owl Helper at the grocery store.
6 posted on 02/10/2003 4:11:34 PM PST by ALASKA
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To: NormsRevenge
Do You think they need some cheese with that whine ?....:)
7 posted on 02/10/2003 4:11:50 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just be because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: skinkinthegrass
Tastes like chicken.

/john

8 posted on 02/10/2003 4:13:03 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: NormsRevenge
So how do they taste?
9 posted on 02/10/2003 4:13:29 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: JRandomFreeper
DOH!

Ya beat me to it...

10 posted on 02/10/2003 4:13:55 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: NormsRevenge
But if the spotted owl is no longer in danger, what can the left use now to obstruct capitolism ?
11 posted on 02/10/2003 4:14:45 PM PST by ChadGore (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordian)
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To: NormsRevenge
Spotted owl...The OTHER White meat.
12 posted on 02/10/2003 4:17:47 PM PST by My2Cents ("...The bombing begins in 5 minutes.")
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To: My2Cents
I spotted an owl once
13 posted on 02/10/2003 4:18:47 PM PST by spokeshave
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To: NormsRevenge


MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM spotted owl
14 posted on 02/10/2003 4:20:34 PM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Redcloak
Does this mean we can eat them now?
15 posted on 02/10/2003 4:22:54 PM PST by ThinkingMan (Maybe someday I can ride in one of those black helicopters!)
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To: NormsRevenge
The federal government decided Monday that the California spotted owl, a symbol in the battle over old-growth forests, does not need protection under the Endangered Species Act at this time.

Environmental groups immediately said they will sue to overturn the ruling.

Hey Enviralists! It never was about the birds, was it?

BTTT

16 posted on 02/10/2003 4:23:50 PM PST by hattend
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To: JRandomFreeper
You need some, Chile Habanero salsa w/ that?...HMMMM
17 posted on 02/10/2003 4:25:36 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just be because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service

Endangered Species Act - U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service

18 posted on 02/10/2003 4:26:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge
Cool. Guess we finally got 'em all!
19 posted on 02/10/2003 4:27:52 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: ChadGore
"But if the spotted owl is no longer in danger, what can the left use now to obstruct capitolism ?"

Salmon, sturgeon, sand flies, sucker fish, tree lychen, all your capitalism are belong to us.

20 posted on 02/10/2003 4:28:25 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: bigfootbob
Yeah, Throw the fish on there too ...tree lychen...an garnish?...:)
21 posted on 02/10/2003 4:31:12 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just be because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: skinkinthegrass
Jalapeno and mango salsa. I am a culinary professional, after all. ;>)

/john

22 posted on 02/10/2003 4:38:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: NormsRevenge
Lumberjacks in the Northwest are gassing up their chainsaws, pulling on the flannel shirts, and picking up some cajun seasoning for spotted owl fillets.
23 posted on 02/10/2003 4:39:26 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: JRandomFreeper
NO DOUDT about it...mohotta.com...good hot peppers sauces :)
24 posted on 02/10/2003 4:45:18 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just be because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: NormsRevenge
oh goody, i'm just about to light up the grill.......
25 posted on 02/10/2003 4:47:06 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: You Dirty Rats
(MUSIC)

I'm a Lumberjack..I'm OK.... :)

26 posted on 02/10/2003 4:47:12 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just be because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: Caipirabob
Sorta between Black Egret and Bald Eagle
27 posted on 02/10/2003 5:07:19 PM PST by D2
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To: NormsRevenge
The federal government decided today that the California spotted owl, a symbol in the battle over old-growth forests, does not need protection under the Endangered Species Act at this time.

SWEET .... when's the BBQ ? .... do they taste like chicken ?

28 posted on 02/10/2003 5:08:12 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Good, get the BB guns pumped.
29 posted on 02/10/2003 5:11:01 PM PST by Porterville
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To: NormsRevenge
It's not like they could just fly to new nesting areas.
30 posted on 02/10/2003 5:13:37 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: D2

YO! So here's my "Spotted Owl Delight" with a light pate of "Bald Eagle" cooked in the blubber of a Humpback Whale. Look! I've made a decorative topping out of the Baleen! *BAM*...

31 posted on 02/10/2003 5:27:34 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Spotted owl off the endangered species list

But fortunately, the Spotted Al(Gore) is still on the list. Fading fast too.

32 posted on 02/10/2003 5:59:51 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; christie; ...
For those that haven't seen this yet.
33 posted on 02/10/2003 6:14:44 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend; marsh2; forester
This ruling will be a good thing for the spotted owl. It will allow thinning of the forest so that they and their habitat won't be totally incinerated. Now for coho.
34 posted on 02/10/2003 6:25:16 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Good!

NOW can we cut the friggin trees?

35 posted on 02/10/2003 6:31:16 PM PST by Don Carlos (Year of the sheep. Baaaaa! Payback time is nigh. Sheep have long memories!)
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To: NormsRevenge; farmfriend
There's a recipe for Almond Spotted Owl in The Clinton Legacy Cookbook. Yummy!
36 posted on 02/10/2003 6:33:27 PM PST by christie (The Clinton Legacy Cookbook is here!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie
This ruling will be a good thing for the spotted owl. It will allow thinning of the forest so that they and their habitat won't be totally incinerated. Now for coho.

As usual Carry, you immediately see the possible long term benefit that includes most all living things in the forrests(including humans). Removing the rigid unworkable restrictions of the Endangered Species act will allow the Government and private entities the flexibility to manage all forrests for always renewable best health/best yield methods. However, it will take quite a while to suffer through the damage done by envirowackos who have acess to lawyers.

37 posted on 02/10/2003 6:58:16 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: farmfriend
Now, lets work to get the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on the endangered species list.
38 posted on 02/10/2003 7:02:12 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: NormsRevenge
Boy am i glad i love spotted owl soup.Now i can eat them legal.No more hideing from the warden.
39 posted on 02/10/2003 7:05:36 PM PST by solo gringo
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To: Navy Patriot
Not only do they have lawyers, but they've got brainwashed little monsters who'll burn it in order to "save" it.

Most people don't realize how little "Natural" there is out there. Even Redwood National Park is largely composed of second growth stands, now 10-20 times the density of their original composition, with a forest so impacted that is killing its own biodiversity. If it was my land, I'd log it, even if it was a borderline proposition. Maybe the trees would pay to grind some stumps.

If I had a dream it would be to to take the currently non-existent proceeds of the book and its patent to be inventing and developing the kind of tools and processes it will take to fix this mess. In a very real sense, that's exactly what I'm doing now.

40 posted on 02/10/2003 7:23:51 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: farmfriend; Carry_Okie; forester
I guess it doesn't need protecting anymore since Red Emerson now has become the biggest private landowner in CA!!!
42 posted on 02/10/2003 8:48:34 PM PST by SierraWasp (Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gas 'n go!


43 posted on 02/10/2003 8:49:30 PM PST by July 4th
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To: B4Ranch
Government coakroach counters have found that roach populations are diminishing at an alarming rate due to roach motels. So roaches are next up on the endangered list.
44 posted on 02/10/2003 8:54:54 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Make that Cockroach counters.....Cockroach.....
45 posted on 02/10/2003 8:56:00 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: NormsRevenge
The loggers are cheerin'!
46 posted on 02/10/2003 8:56:45 PM PST by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation
Many lost everthing over this fraud. I doubt they are really cheering. Maybe a small smile.
47 posted on 02/10/2003 9:03:11 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: farmfriend
Oh, man, does this mean I can go whack of few of these critters, now?
48 posted on 02/10/2003 9:32:51 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; farmfriend
I guess it doesn't need protecting anymore since Red Emerson now has become the biggest private landowner in CA!!!

Don't forget the most important part...he owns every sawmill in the Sierras except for three. We are talking from Fall River to Fresno...a distance of some 400 miles. Guess who is the only major buyer for federal timber now? I wonder if the banks will bet money on new sawmills after the last administration forced the majority of them into bankruptcy? Not reorganization mind you -- public auction of the machinery and demolition of the mills.

I'm am trying to be happy for the loggers in the Sierra, but we are in the Northern Spotted Owl area. Between the owls and the fish, we are down to 4½ month logging season. Hope we get some help too.

49 posted on 02/10/2003 10:33:56 PM PST by forester (american forestry is a dying art...sigh)
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To: freedomworks
Good post. Henry lamb is great.
50 posted on 02/10/2003 10:35:19 PM PST by forester (american forestry is a dying art...sigh)
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