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Media Hypocrisy Subverts American Culture
NewsMax.com ^ | Feb. 11, 2003 | Barrett Kalellis

Posted on 02/11/2003 9:30:32 PM PST by prman

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To: xsrdx
Cart before the horse, rap doesn't CAUSE the problem, it's just a symptom of something much deeper.

Yep, just as banning guns doesn't solve gun violence. Different proponents, same concept - that legislating away the symptom somehow cures the underlying disease.

21 posted on 02/12/2003 9:01:05 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Please read your American history. Look up "Lady Chatterly's Lover" and the history thereof.
22 posted on 02/12/2003 9:15:35 AM PST by HumanaeVitae (Libertarianism = Moral Relativism w/a Pocket Protector and Taped-Up Glasses)
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To: HumanaeVitae
Please read your American history. Look up "Lady Chatterly's Lover" and the history thereof.

Hmmm ... so because we did it in the past, it was automatically a good thing? Such as slavery, segregation, internment of Japanese-Americans and other such happenings? Outlawing rap music would do nothing to change inner-city problems. But I'm sure it would make you feel warm and fuzzy that you were actually doing something, pointless or not, just as the Million Mom types get all soppy over their dream of banning guns in America because they think it would end gun violence.

23 posted on 02/12/2003 9:19:29 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: HumanaeVitae
"Damn straight vulgar rap music should be banned. As should pornography, and all other kinds of sex-and-violence-dripping crap."

OR at the least the venue ought to regulated where all this sh*t isn't one-click-away accessible or foisted upon the masses as "art," for the consumption of all -- regardless of age.

24 posted on 02/12/2003 9:29:28 AM PST by F16Fighter (The Democrats --The Party of Marxists, moral relativists and political eunuchs)
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To: F16Fighter
OR at the least the venue ought to regulated where all this sh*t isn't one-click-away accessible or foisted upon the masses as "art," for the consumption of all -- regardless of age.

Yeah! Just like gun owners should be required to use trigger locks so kids don't shoot themselves! With enough legislation, we can make sure that nothing bad ever happens to our children...

25 posted on 02/12/2003 9:31:25 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: HumanaeVitae
"Your version of the First Amendment has only existed since the 1960s. Our version saw this country from 1791-1965 or so. I'll take mine over yours, dude."

Amazing how some delusional folks think the Republic was actually founded (for real) either at the time of Johnson's socialist program in 1965, OR upon the other socialist red-letter date and decision marking the legality of murder (Roe v. Wade) in '1973.

Apparently ALL pre-1964 history, mores, and values were lies.

26 posted on 02/12/2003 9:35:46 AM PST by F16Fighter (The Democrats --The Party of Marxists, moral relativists and political eunuchs)
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To: F16Fighter
Yep.

Forget left wingers. The next political battle is conservatives vs. libertarians...

27 posted on 02/12/2003 9:36:27 AM PST by HumanaeVitae (Libertarianism = Moral Relativism w/a Pocket Protector and Taped-Up Glasses)
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To: dirtboy
"Yeah! Just like gun owners should be required to use trigger locks so kids don't shoot themselves!"

Yeah right...

So if we did things your way, do 8 year old kids get to sit on a bar stool next to you, smoke a cigar, buy you a round, then get a lap dance?

28 posted on 02/12/2003 9:38:50 AM PST by F16Fighter (The Democrats --The Party of Marxists, moral relativists and political eunuchs)
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To: HumanaeVitae
I agree that rap music adds no tangible benefits to society but my buck stops there. I don't buy it, I don't listen to it, I ignore it.

If someone asks what I think of it, I repeat the above sentiment.

Rap music as such reflects the very hypocrisy of the left that, on one hand, castigates any reference to a woman as a babe, smokin', hot momma, etc IF it's a white man and/or conservative while, on the other hand, has limited, non-existent criticism for any rappers' use of 'ho, bitch, slut, "get down on your knees and do your business" etc. UNLESS it involves someone like Eminem. Why. Well he's white of course.
29 posted on 02/12/2003 9:41:05 AM PST by torchthemummy
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To: HumanaeVitae
"The next political battle is conservatives vs. libertarians..."

To some of these people, anarchy is only goal for true freedom.

30 posted on 02/12/2003 9:41:07 AM PST by F16Fighter (The Democrats --The Party of Marxists, moral relativists and political eunuchs)
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To: F16Fighter
OR at the least the venue ought to regulated where all this sh*t isn't one-click-away accessible or foisted upon the masses as "art," for the consumption of all -- regardless of age.

I haven't heard any rap music in ages. Exactly how were you forced to listen to it?

31 posted on 02/12/2003 9:45:55 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: prman
Aristotle, Plato, Aristotle -- or, at least one or two of these guys warned that corrupt music would corrupt the youth, and, eventually, undermine the civilization. (And, these guys were practicing queers, if memory serves.)

Were they correct? Well, anyone heard of ancient Greek culture surviving intact for the past 2500 years?
32 posted on 02/12/2003 9:57:12 AM PST by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: weikel
I gotta a better political program its called anyone who is incapable of minding their own business should be shot.

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Stated like a true gangsta thug rappah!
33 posted on 02/12/2003 9:59:09 AM PST by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: BenR2
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.
34 posted on 02/12/2003 10:01:41 AM PST by weikel (Anti democratic right of Atilla reactionary objectivist tory minarchist monarchist 4eva)
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To: weikel
LOL. Touche!
35 posted on 02/12/2003 10:02:05 AM PST by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: F16Fighter
So if we did things your way, do 8 year old kids get to sit on a bar stool next to you, smoke a cigar, buy you a round, then get a lap dance?

No, current law makes that illegal as it is. However, the path you propose would open the way for busybodies to deny ADULTS the ability to smoke a stogie and down a round, as they will take your desires to control porn and use the mechanisms to control their pet peeve.

36 posted on 02/12/2003 10:12:37 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: xsrdx
Right on, but continue because the drug problem fits here too.
37 posted on 02/12/2003 10:13:48 AM PST by MoGalahad
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To: Desdemona
"Where does the censorship stop?"

Perhaps for some of you people the point a chimp is engaged in fellatio in Macy's front window; For others, it's the same scenario during a school play...

Maybe some of you didn't get the memo of 1776-1965 before America was hijacked by moral relativists.

38 posted on 02/12/2003 10:42:50 AM PST by F16Fighter (The Democrats --The Party of Marxists, moral relativists and political eunuchs)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
"I haven't heard any rap music in ages. Exactly how were you forced to listen to it?"

I guess some cretins fail to apprehend the detriment of "rap" music's glorification of raping "bitches" and killing cops to the minds of nine-year olds.

39 posted on 02/12/2003 10:50:08 AM PST by F16Fighter (The Democrats --The Party of Marxists, moral relativists and political eunuchs)
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To: dirtboy
"However, the path you propose would open the way for busybodies to deny ADULTS the ability to smoke a stogie and down a round, as they will take your desires to control porn and use the mechanisms to control their pet peeve."

Baloney.

40 posted on 02/12/2003 10:51:08 AM PST by F16Fighter (The Democrats --The Party of Marxists, moral relativists and political eunuchs)
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