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Live Thread: Estrada Filibuster Day 3
C-SPAN-2 ^ | US Senate

Posted on 02/14/2003 7:26:03 AM PST by BaBaStooey

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK IN THE SADDLE AGAIN!

If someone else posted this then I apologize, I checked a couple times first.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: estrada; filibuster; hughhewitt; racistdemocrats
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1 posted on 02/14/2003 7:26:03 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: BaBaStooey
BUMPABUMBUM

I know theres some BS United Nations thing going on right now, but someone has to be with me!
2 posted on 02/14/2003 7:26:57 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: BaBaStooey
Let's table this debate and make a recess appointment. This is a losing issue.
3 posted on 02/14/2003 7:28:34 AM PST by Partisan Hack
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To: BaBaStooey
I know theres some BS United Nations thing going on right now, but someone has to be with me!

The Inspectors Clouseau are making their latest report to the Security Council.

4 posted on 02/14/2003 7:29:12 AM PST by jackbill
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To: Partisan Hack
The Democrats oppose this guy because of his politics, not his race. Our claims of racism will backfire.
5 posted on 02/14/2003 7:29:40 AM PST by Partisan Hack
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To: BaBaStooey
Hey Babastooey, whats up!

Sen. Bennett from Utah up right now, stressing the point about Republican's reluctance to push for cloture and raise the bar for judges to 60 votes.
6 posted on 02/14/2003 7:29:59 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: Partisan Hack
Durbin up now.
7 posted on 02/14/2003 7:30:57 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: BaBaStooey
Thank You. CSPAN-2 challenged.
8 posted on 02/14/2003 7:31:35 AM PST by Partisan Hack
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To: BaBaStooey
What Is a Filibuster?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/833142/posts

Estrada Filibuster Day 1 Thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/841602/posts

Estrada Filibuster Day 2 Thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/842421/posts

Democrats' Effort To Derail Estrada Hits Sour Note With Millions of Hispanic Americans (RUSH)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/842830/posts
9 posted on 02/14/2003 7:33:10 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: Partisan Hack
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

Watch CSPAN-2 on the computer!
10 posted on 02/14/2003 7:33:50 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: BaBaStooey




someone post the phone number to the Democrat's cloak room - I don't have it. Durbin and Bennett discussing the info the Dems wanted from the White House and attourney-client privledge.
11 posted on 02/14/2003 7:37:03 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: BaBaStooey
EVERY ONE, ESP FLORIDA FREEPERS, Sen Bill Nelson's staff this morning said that "he met with Estrada yesterday and is leaning towards supporting him." That means that everyone needs to start calling him now!

Phone: 202-224-5274
Fax: 202-228-2183

http://billnelson.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm
12 posted on 02/14/2003 7:37:08 AM PST by votelife
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To: votelife
If Nelson (FL) is on board, that might mean 4 Dems are with us. We do not want to invoke cloture to set a precedent for judges in the future, however, if we do get 9 Dems on board with us, Daschle will probably back down, knowing we can get a cloture vote.
13 posted on 02/14/2003 7:39:09 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: BaBaStooey
Durbin has the floor, Bennett is asking questions. Durbin is CHARTING it up.
14 posted on 02/14/2003 7:41:11 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: Partisan Hack
This going on from the Demos:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID60/36976.html

15 posted on 02/14/2003 7:41:18 AM PST by shiva
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To: BaBaStooey
We need to get his private, sort-of, well-leaning, blah blah blah into a public "YES." More calls (and the VERY LARGE Florida Hispanic population) can do it! I think we're getting to the Dem Senators!
16 posted on 02/14/2003 7:42:47 AM PST by votelife
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To: votelife
Where is confirmation of the Nelson story? I have not heard that and wondered where you got that information.
17 posted on 02/14/2003 7:43:16 AM PST by ACAC
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To: ACAC; votelife
my computer is on the fritz and I need to leave the office for a bit, keep this thing going and keep us updated!
18 posted on 02/14/2003 7:45:45 AM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: BaBaStooey
We don't have a TV, and I've never tried to do C-Span on the computer til this filibuster. All I can get is "Experiencing problems with streaming video." And the Atlanta papers have not a single word about this thing. Nothing. Could somebody please offer an update? Is this even a filibuster yet? Hasn't Frist already caved on the idea of keeping the Senate in session for it?
19 posted on 02/14/2003 7:52:18 AM PST by madprof98
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To: BaBaStooey
I just called Nelson's office and a staffer told me that Senator Nelson is NOT supporting the filibuster.
20 posted on 02/14/2003 7:58:23 AM PST by Grand Old Partisan
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To: Partisan Hack
We, if you mean Republican, are not claiming racism. We're claiming the rule of law. I think Bennett laid it out clearly this morning.
21 posted on 02/14/2003 8:03:12 AM PST by swheats
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To: BaBaStooey
Thanks for starting the thread.
22 posted on 02/14/2003 8:03:45 AM PST by swheats
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To: ACAC
There is no public confirmation. I called 2 of his offices this morning. I said, what is going on with the Estrada nomination. 2 different places told me that Nelson met with Estrada yesterday and he is "leaning towards supporting him." Granted this is more like a trial balloon than definite support, but it shows their resolve is cracking. So, WE MUST continue to CALL!

23 posted on 02/14/2003 8:04:07 AM PST by votelife
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To: Grand Old Partisan
It's one thing for his office to say, "he is NOT supporting the filibuster." Technically, there is NO filibuster UNLESS the Republicans invoke cloture. So Senator Nelson is saying he is supporting something that is not happening. We need to get him to pubically say he supports Estrada's confirmation. If we can get him to say that, I think this is over.
24 posted on 02/14/2003 8:06:35 AM PST by votelife
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To: madprof98
It may have something to do with the type of media player you are using. I've had similar problems during last few days while using Real player. But when I switched to Windows Media Player I could watch C-span smoothly. Using proxy server to connect to internet could also help.
25 posted on 02/14/2003 8:11:09 AM PST by JackTom
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To: Partisan Hack
The Democrats oppose this guy because of his politics, not his race. Our claims of racism will backfire.

Yeah, Republicans may no longer be able to count on their overwhelming minority base.
Get real.

26 posted on 02/14/2003 8:15:17 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Did you call Nelson of Nebraska or Nelson of Florida? Nelson of Nebraska has already come out in favor of Estrada.
27 posted on 02/14/2003 8:52:47 AM PST by ACAC
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To: Partisan Hack
The Democrats have used false charges of racism as a key strategy for years. The best way to nullify their ability to use phony charges of racism as a bludgeon is to turn it against them.
28 posted on 02/14/2003 9:21:05 AM PST by The Electrician
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To: Partisan Hack
Wrong!!! Its because of his politics AND his race combined. If he were a white guy they would probably not be filibustering. If he said he supported Roe vs. Wade they would vote for him so fast your head would spin.
29 posted on 02/14/2003 9:25:08 AM PST by PortugeeJoe
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To: ACAC
Florida. Perhaps you could give him a call too.
30 posted on 02/14/2003 9:26:25 AM PST by Grand Old Partisan
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To: BaBaStooey; goldilucky; Quix; KLT; doug from upland; Freedom'sWorthIt; Mia T; timestax; arasina; ...
Do you think Hillary has a Valentine?

Maybe the devil will pay her a visit
later.

Hot Night Tonight!!
31 posted on 02/14/2003 9:34:03 AM PST by Joy Angela
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To: All
http://www.hitlery.com

Check it out!
32 posted on 02/14/2003 9:38:56 AM PST by Joy Angela
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To: BaBaStooey
These are the same hate mongering Democrats that filibustered to obstruct the 1968 Civil Rights Act, willfully obstructed Clarance Thomas' nomination to the Supreme Court soley because he is black and now are willfully obstructing the Estrada nomination soley because he is an Hispanic.

Those of us in the language war should be able to make some hay if we don't allow our neo-Stalinist friends to frame this argument for us.

33 posted on 02/14/2003 9:58:15 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: martin gibson
I was listening to Hatch on the Hannity show, and it seemed to me that he's all but thrown in the towel. He explained why the filibuster can't continue through the weekend (one of the Rep senator's wives is ill, etc)... He suggested that people call one of 10 dem senators that may be persuaded to change their minds... Seemed like a signal of defeat, unfortunately. What a travesty of justice.

I haven't watched any of the proceedings today... Does anyone see any chances of Estrada pulling this out, or is it dead?
34 posted on 02/14/2003 10:15:23 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: votelife
1:13 pm est - just talked to Sen. Nelson's office and inquired what his opinion of Estrada was after his meeting yesterday. I was told HE DOES NOT SUPPORT THE FILIBUSTER!! But.....they don't how he will vote (B.S.!!) I was pleasant, told him I was glad to hear that Nelson had met with Estrada and did not support filibuster. Especially since I had been watching the fiasco at the UN this morning and feel we are in danger of losing our very country. Therefore, the waste of time the Democrats are engaged in with this partisan nonsense is NOT appreciated by concerned Americans. We are concerned for our country and our very lives and we are watching. He said he was very aware - THEY ARE GETTING LOTS OF PHONE CALLS.!!!! Pick up the phone you all - keep up the pressure. The scarey part is -- I AM afraid for our country and our lives.
35 posted on 02/14/2003 10:17:21 AM PST by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg
btw - that's Nelson from FL.
36 posted on 02/14/2003 10:20:55 AM PST by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg
Good call! I might call again this afternoon!
37 posted on 02/14/2003 10:22:31 AM PST by votelife
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To: Elkiejg; votelife; swheats; PhiKapMom; JohnHuang2; All
JH2....please ping others to this thread & my post.

Dear Friends:

Just got off the phone with (FL-D) Sen. Nelson's office. The staffer said that the Senator is 'against the filibuster and not participating'.

I asked that Nelson give a speech telling his Democrat colleagues that the filibuster against nominee Estrada must stop particularly now when we are on the brink of war & under a high terrorist alert.

What they are doing is preventing the Senate from voting on a nominee that the Judicial Committee has brought to the floor for a vote. The Democrats are disenfranchising all Americans by preventing the other Senators from voting as required by the Constitution!

I reminded them that this will hurt the Democrat Party if it continues. ....especially since that party was so concerned about 'disenfranchising voters in 2000 election'.

Please all Sen. Nelson's office here:
1-202-224-5274 (Connected quickly)

You can try these also but all circuits were busy:
1-800-648-3516
1-800-762-8762


Thanks for joining this effort and asking others to help,

Julie


38 posted on 02/14/2003 10:26:40 AM PST by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04........Across America!)
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To: JulieRNR21
I asked that Nelson give a speech telling his Democrat colleagues that the filibuster against nominee Estrada must stop particularly now when we are on the brink of war & under a high terrorist alert. What they are doing is preventing the Senate from voting on a nominee that the Judicial Committee has brought to the floor for a vote. The Democrats are disenfranchising all Americans by preventing the other Senators from voting as required by the Constitution! I reminded them that this will hurt the Democrat Party if it continues. ....especially since that party was so concerned about 'disenfranchising voters in 2000 election'.

Excellent points!! btw - when I was talking to the staffer, I practiced my own brand of RAT b.s. saying that I always felt Sen. Nelson was above petty politics and hoped he would do what was best for the protection of our Country. (I even did it with a straight face!!).

39 posted on 02/14/2003 10:33:07 AM PST by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg
Excellent points!! btw - when I was talking to the staffer, I practiced my own brand of RAT b.s. saying that I always felt Sen. Nelson was above petty politics and hoped he would do what was best for the protection of our Country. (I even did it with a straight face!!).

LOL...know how you felt.....while I never actually said I was a Dem (I would choke on those words) I talked about how the filibuster is hurting the party......LOL

40 posted on 02/14/2003 10:41:08 AM PST by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04........Across America!)
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To: BaBaStooey
If Nelson (FL) is on board, that might mean 4 Dems are with us. We do not want to invoke cloture to set a precedent for judges in the future, however, if we do get 9 Dems on board with us, Daschle will probably back down, knowing we can get a cloture vote.

I don't think Daschle will back down at all. He will WANT to force a cloture vote just so a precedent CAN be set. The repubs might just as well add this as Step #6 on the DEMONrats "Weapons of Mass Obstruction" plan.

41 posted on 02/14/2003 10:58:22 AM PST by nfldgirl
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To: JulieRNR21
JUlie...check out National review..Deroy has a new column..he's calling for the GOP to let Estrada and Pickering and Owen talk directly to the people.....I gotta run ..do you wanna start a thread, and/or link to it here?
42 posted on 02/14/2003 11:25:08 AM PST by ken5050
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To: JulieRNR21
I also said that the filibuster would hurt the Democratic party (of course I want it to be hurt, didn't tell her that...)
43 posted on 02/14/2003 11:40:02 AM PST by votelife
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To: madprof98
Frist didn't cave, he didn't have any choice. Mitch McConnell is out, and another Republican senator wife is having life saving surgery. Frist didn't have enough votes to sustain anything without ALL of the Republican senators there.
44 posted on 02/14/2003 11:42:37 AM PST by Utah Girl
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To: votelife
Sen. Nelson and Graham won't dare support 'filibuster'...not with our conservative Cuban-American population and their Presidential aspirations, but I doubt they'll vote WITH us. We need to phrase our questions differently. "Will you vote yes and be one of the 60 Senate votes Miguel needs to be allowed a confirmation vote on the floor of the Senate?" or something.
45 posted on 02/14/2003 11:50:53 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("This nomination in no way deserves a filibuster." - Washington Post)
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To: Joy Angela
Hillary's valentine is a she-devil.
46 posted on 02/14/2003 11:53:53 AM PST by goldilucky
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To: All
From Mark Russel:

Estrada is an immigrant from Honduras and the Democrats go crazy when they find a Latino who is not one of theirs. They have asked immigration authorities to be on the alert for more conservative Republicans trying to sneak over the border.

47 posted on 02/14/2003 11:53:58 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: shiva
Please forgive me for trashing this thread with trash from DU...I went over to take a look at your link and gosh, I feel so tainted...what a bunch of filth! (e.g., the "F" word is thrown around over there like candy during a mardi gras). Here's what one patho had to say about President Bush..."The contrast between him and Clinton is sooo stark because Clinton is still fresh in everyone's mind...We in Canada and the rest of the world remember his brilliance and GOOD HEART...Nobody gives a damn about his sex life....If only he was still pres....things would be so different!!!!!!"

I'm at a loss of words to explain where this kind of thinking comes from...can anyone out there help?

48 posted on 02/14/2003 12:06:27 PM PST by nfldgirl
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To: votelife
Here is a copy of the e-mail I just sent:

Senator Nelson,

As one of your constituents, I would like for you to know how disgusting and disgraceful I find the current attempts to block Miguel Estrada's judicial confirmation. I certainly hope both you and Senator Graham have the class and the common sense not to participate in such activities.

If your conscience does not allow you to vote "yes" for Mr. Estrada, then simply be recorded as a "no" vote. The path Senator Schumer, Senator Leahy and Senator Daschle are taking you and your colleagues on is indeed the path to Hell. I seriously doubt the many Hispanic residents of Florida are supportive of this filibuster, nor is anyone with a sense of common decency and fair play.

Don't allow this destructive behavior to continue. Your constituents deserve better.

Sincerely,
LBelle
49 posted on 02/14/2003 12:21:43 PM PST by LBelle
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Or another question we could ask is "What is Senator Nelson doing to ensure that Estrada gets an up or down vote? Then the staffer will say blah blah blah. Then say "Does Senator Nelson think after 600 days of vetting that Estrada deserves an up or down vote?"
50 posted on 02/14/2003 12:32:00 PM PST by votelife
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