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Bus station plays jazz to drive teenagers away
Ananova ^ | February 15, 2003 | Ananova

Posted on 02/15/2003 12:35:34 PM PST by MadIvan

A bus station in America is planning to play classical music and smooth jazz to discourage loitering teenagers.

Officials at the Trade Street in Charlotte, North Carolina, hope the "grow-up" music will irritate groups of youths who hang around the station.

The station's loudspeakers already emit the calls of hawks and owls to frighten away pigeons that roost in the rafters.

"The idea is to make the atmosphere at the Trade Street station less pleasant for those who aren't there to catch a bus," a spokeswoman told the Charlotte Observer.

"We know if we play a certain genre, people won't want to hang around."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: classical; deterrent; jazz; teenagers
This is based on an earlier experiment in Newcastle where they played loads of Delibes in public transport stations. The rates of crime fell through the floor.

I suggest that's what we do in future - if we find there is a crime hotspot, just play loads of classical until either they become cultured or run away. ;)

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 02/15/2003 12:35:34 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: NYC GOP Chick; Blue Scourge; PhiKapMom; carl in alaska; Cautor; GOP_Lady; prairiebreeze; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 02/15/2003 12:35:51 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan

You think this lady would put me off taking the bus? ;-)

3 posted on 02/15/2003 12:38:38 PM PST by Happygal
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To: MadIvan
Delibes? How about Alan Pettersson?
4 posted on 02/15/2003 12:38:52 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: MadIvan
I heard of something like this, I think it took place in Woodland, Ca.(it's been awhile since I heard of it so could be wrong.) where the city put public speakers all over their downtown area and blaired classical music to keep the gangbangers away.
5 posted on 02/15/2003 12:39:02 PM PST by Commander8
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To: MadIvan
Anything but actually hold people accountable for their actions, huh? Progress marches on.
6 posted on 02/15/2003 12:39:15 PM PST by inquest
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To: Happygal
Darling, I don't think you'd be put off the bus. They'd find the sound system had been somehow mysteriously accidentally tragically been utterly decimated, however. ;)

Love, Ivan

7 posted on 02/15/2003 12:40:02 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: inquest
It's a preventative measure. The teenagers can't seem to get around to mugging people when they are in earshot of the "Coppelia Suite".

Regards, Ivan

8 posted on 02/15/2003 12:40:43 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
LOL - I can't wait to show this one around. Thanks. : )
10 posted on 02/15/2003 12:42:18 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Eleven. Exactly. One louder.)
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To: MadIvan
I understand the rationale. I just can't help but wonder why we're so impotent when it comes to dealing with the problem directly. I guess it has something to do with a fear of being "judgmental" or something.
11 posted on 02/15/2003 12:43:54 PM PST by inquest
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To: MadIvan
I wish that restaurants would go back to playing pleasant music. I like rock (not so much the current stuff), but listening to some guy rasping about "take care of my disease" to music isn't a pleasant eating experience.
12 posted on 02/15/2003 12:44:27 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: inquest
Well you know actually saying that gangsta rap encourages crime makes certain people grumpy. And we can't have that.

Regards, Ivan

13 posted on 02/15/2003 12:44:57 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Officials at the Trade Street in Charlotte, North Carolina, hope the "grow-up" music will irritate groups of youths who hang around the station.

That's pretty funny. I live one mile south of that station here in Charlotte. I remember putting on some Pat Metheny on when having a small party with some 20-something females around. You would have thought I'd powered up a jackhammer. They freaked. Couldn't handle it. And we're talking some very mellow but sophisticated stuff.

14 posted on 02/15/2003 12:46:12 PM PST by guitfiddlist
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To: MadIvan
Many years ago when I would have to work on my wooden boat the boat yard would have kid playing around as their parents worked on the boats.

I would play Strauss waltzes loudly at my boat and it would keep the kids at bay.

Years ago when I went to a Mall and there were kids just hanging around I told my wife a good dose of the Blue Danube would clear the area in 5 minutes.

If you have a hard core situation and can't drive them all off then switch to Lawrence Welk. In that case I probably would leave the area myself. Lovely Lovely Lovely. -tom

15 posted on 02/15/2003 12:46:28 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: MadIvan
Hmmmm, playing the music of dope-smoking Louis Armstrong and heroin addict Charlie Parker reduces teen crime, huh? Who would have guessed?
16 posted on 02/15/2003 12:46:41 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner (I have a photographic memory. I just don't have film.)
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To: MadIvan
They'd find the sound system had been somehow mysteriously accidentally tragically been utterly decimated, however. ;)

That wouldn't be MY fault. That would be

17 posted on 02/15/2003 12:46:53 PM PST by Happygal
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To: Happygal
Now don't you bring her into this, love. ;)

Love, Ivan

18 posted on 02/15/2003 12:48:06 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Good Idea! LOL!
19 posted on 02/15/2003 12:49:05 PM PST by demlosers
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To: Mr. Mulliner
More likely they play Kenny G, that would pretty much do the trick with me.
20 posted on 02/15/2003 12:49:33 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Oh, I get it. Kenny G would drive me away too.
21 posted on 02/15/2003 12:50:25 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner (I have a photographic memory. I just don't have film.)
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To: MadIvan
When my kids went to public school in Japan, the melody which played over the PA system was Edvard Grieg's Varen. In addition, the kids clean the school at the end of the day. Vandalism is virtually nil.
22 posted on 02/15/2003 12:55:13 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: dfwgator
Yes, the classical would be fine, and good jazz would be fine, but 'smooth jazz' would drive me away!
23 posted on 02/15/2003 1:07:06 PM PST by expatpat
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To: MadIvan
The station's loudspeakers already emit the calls of hawks and owls to frighten away pigeons that roost in the rafters.

If they'd play a little Slim Whitman, they could get rid of both the pigeons AND the teens with just one soundtrack!

24 posted on 02/15/2003 1:14:06 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: nickcarraway
ping
25 posted on 02/15/2003 3:30:33 PM PST by Desdemona (from Tobit 4: Do to no one what you yourself dislike. (the pre-cursor to the golden rule))
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To: expatpat
but 'smooth jazz' would drive me away!

agreed,i prefer the likes of vince guaraldi and art blakey then "smooth jazz"(sounds more like cheesy love music to me)

26 posted on 02/15/2003 5:39:42 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (Left-Amerika has a suicide wish)
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To: deathscythex
agreed,i prefer the likes of vince guaraldi and art blakey

They'd have a new problem- I'd consider taking up residence there. :-)

27 posted on 02/15/2003 5:46:25 PM PST by Riley
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To: Willie Green
If they'd play a little Slim Whitman, they could get rid of both the pigeons AND the teens with just one soundtrack!

And, it would make Martian invaders' heads explode.

28 posted on 02/15/2003 5:47:38 PM PST by Riley
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To: Ickey
It ain't gonna work on me. From Eazy E to Tchaikowski, I listen to it all.

I take it then you're not a teenage thug. :-)

29 posted on 02/15/2003 5:49:57 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Riley
lol

one of the many things that surprise people,yes im a huge death-metal fan,but daddy raised me right,he made sure i knew what "real music" is and ive been forever grateful

30 posted on 02/15/2003 5:52:32 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (with you from the first,with you till the last.-truer words could never been spoken)
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To: deathscythex
one of the many things that surprise people,yes im a huge death-metal fan,but daddy raised me right,he made sure i knew what "real music" is and ive been forever grateful

There is some great stuff out there- Classical, Blues, Jazz, and I used to *play* Dixieland! I don't care for Rap or most Country. That said, I have a (possible)Country tune stuck in my head- Hannity plays it as bumper music. Female vocalist- "Let Freedom Ring"? Wish I knew who it was and what it is actually called, and from what album.

I *finally* found a copy of Scarlet Rivera's first album off of the Internet- vinyl, no less. Dubbed it to CD so I could listen in the car. I am not sure how to classify it- Jazz Violin?

31 posted on 02/15/2003 6:00:32 PM PST by Riley
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To: Capt. Tom
A McDonald's in downtown Dallas used to be a hangout for gangs, muggers, etc. until they started playing classical music. The transformation was amazing. Don't know if they still do it.
32 posted on 02/15/2003 6:04:08 PM PST by Let's Roll (Whether we bring our enemies to justice, or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done.)
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To: MadIvan
'Ride of the Valkierie'.

WAGNER! and LOTS OF IT!

:)

33 posted on 02/15/2003 6:07:23 PM PST by LibKill (FIRE! and LOTS OF IT!)
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To: Riley
scarlet rivera? hmm ill have to look into it.

vince guaraldi became a major favorite of mine after i learned he did the peanuts soundtrack for most of the cartoons,although ive never had a chance to listen to his non peanuts stuff(father has it all on vinyl)

34 posted on 02/15/2003 6:08:20 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (with you from the first,with you till the last.-truer words could never been spoken)
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To: deathscythex
Guaraldi is pretty commonly available on CD. A lot of his work is very different from the tunes he did for 'Peanuts', although that remains my favorite musically.
35 posted on 02/15/2003 6:11:05 PM PST by Riley
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To: deathscythex
scarlet rivera? hmm ill have to look into it.

Scarlet Rivera did a vinyl LP in 1978 or so that was simply titled 'Scarlet Rivera'. That is the one I finally found.

Cost was under ten bucks, including shipping.

36 posted on 02/15/2003 6:12:43 PM PST by Riley
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To: Riley
any songs you recommend?
37 posted on 02/15/2003 6:16:22 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (with you from the first,with you till the last.-truer words could never been spoken)
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To: deathscythex
I like everything on the album. Here's what's on the label:

Leftback
Wicked Witch of the East
Gypsy Caravan

Earth Queen
Cloak and Dagger
Ring around the Moon


It is Warner Bothers #BS 3060
38 posted on 02/15/2003 6:26:14 PM PST by Riley
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To: guitfiddlist
They freaked. Couldn't handle it.

Over Pat Metheny??? What was the problem, no 4/4 dance beat? No easy bass line to follow? No ragged-voiced cretin singing about how life sucks?

I fear for the future of music with such shallow audiences these days.

39 posted on 02/15/2003 7:03:10 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves
What I've found over the years was that the vast majority of people just don't want to hear anything that isn't all over the radio or played at clubs, etc. Nothing different than the homogenized pap readily available at any fine shopping establishment.



40 posted on 02/15/2003 7:27:46 PM PST by babaloo999
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To: Willie Green
The early hillbilly sounds of Bill Anderson would work so much better. Besides, I like Slim Whitman.
41 posted on 02/15/2003 7:37:22 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: Vigilanteman
"When my kids went to public school in Japan, the melody which played over the PA system was Edvard Grieg's Varen. In addition, the kids clean the school at the end of the day. Vandalism is virtually nil."

Freshmen at a private high school, here in Northern NJ, all complain because of the classical music they heard at their school. After a while they would hum along, and were proudwhen they could name the different pieces. They also began to enjoy the uniform look -- not uniforms as such, but pants, shirts and ties for by and skirts, or dresses for the girls.

My own kids - (now grown with families of their own), all want the music they heard while they were growing up, for their own kids to hear.

42 posted on 02/15/2003 7:38:33 PM PST by Exit148
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To: Happygal

43 posted on 02/17/2003 3:41:51 AM PST by Ed Straker
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To: Riley
Female vocalist- "Let Freedom Ring"? Wish I knew who it was and what it is actually called, and from what album.

Martina McBride. Song's called Independence Day. Dunno what album.

44 posted on 02/17/2003 4:41:25 AM PST by Oschisms (Us runners finally have a President we can be proud of)
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To: Mr. Mulliner; dfwgator
Kenny G's "music" is NOT jazz!! It is very effective as a pigeon dispersal agent, however.
45 posted on 02/17/2003 5:11:08 AM PST by Fresh Wind (All we are sa-aa-aa-ying is give Beast a chance!)
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To: MadIvan
I guess it is kind of hard to "bust a cap from a 9" when you've got "Girl From Ipanima" rattling in your head...or maybe it's easier...hmmm...
46 posted on 02/19/2003 6:21:10 AM PST by Future Snake Eater
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To: MadIvan
"The idea is to make the atmosphere at the Trade Street station less pleasant for those who aren't there to catch a bus," a spokeswoman told the Charlotte Observer.

Anything by Kenny G would keep me away from there.

47 posted on 02/19/2003 6:26:06 AM PST by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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