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Al-Qaeda had planned attacks on US on Feb 12: Report
Hindustan Times ^ | Feb. 16, 2003 | Press Trust of India

Posted on 02/16/2003 2:55:47 PM PST by FairOpinion

The US has credible intelligence that al Qaeda had an attack or multiple attacks set to begin at some point last week and that members of the Congress could have been the terrorist outfit's likely target, a media report said today.

Counter-terrorism officials were today quoted as saying that they had received a phone tip that members of the United States Congress could have beene targets of assassination attempts by Islamic fundamentalists.

Intelligence reports gathered from human and electronic sources around the world suggested what intelligence officials had suspected for weeks- al Qaeda operatives "Are in the execution phase of some of their operations," a senior US offficial was quoted by 'Time' magazine as saying.

Officials said the intelligence specifically mentioned that the likely targets were New York City and Washington on February 12.

Even though the feared attacks failed to materialise, the anxieties did not subside and inside the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) fears of a devastating attack are as high as they had been in months, particularly because of the possibility that "other tools" or biological and chemical weapons could be used, it said.

The Homeland Security has increased the level of alert.

Telephone calls and e-mails exchanged between several suspected terrorists and intercepted by the US and foreign intelligence agencies pointed to a plot inside the US using nerve gas, poisons or radiological devices.

"It was'nt just chatter," said Republican Senator Pat Roberts, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. "It was a pattern." (more)

A senior Administration official tells the magazine that domestic law-enforcement agencies are investigating a report that Islamic fundamentalists in this country are trying to acquire parts to build an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) abroad-the kind of machine that terrorism experts believe could be deployed to spray chemical agents over populated areas.

The fear is that a UAV assembled overseas could be used against U.S. Assets there, Time says.

The US has credible intelligence that al Qaeda had an attack or multiple attacks set to begin at some point last week and that members of the Congress could have been the terrorist outfit's likely target, a media report said today.

Counter-terrorism officials were today quoted as saying that they had received a phone tip that members of the United States Congress could have been targets of assassination attempts by Islamic fundamentalists.

Intelligence reports gathered from human and electronic sources around the world suggested what intelligence officials had suspected for weeks- al Qaeda operatives "Are in the execution phase of some of their operations," a senior US official was quoted by 'Time' magazine as saying.

Officials said the intelligence specifically mentioned that the likely targets were New York City and Washington on February 12.

Even though the feared attacks failed to materialise, the anxieties did not subside and inside the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) fears of a devastating attack are as high as they had been in months, particularly because of the possibility that "other tools" or biological and chemical weapons could be used, it said.

The Homeland Security has increased the level of alert.

Telephone calls and e-mails exchanged between several suspected terrorists and intercepted by the US and foreign intelligence agencies pointed to a plot inside the US using nerve gas, poisons or radiological devices.

"It wasn't just chatter," said Republican Senator Pat Roberts, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. "It was a pattern."

A senior Administration official tells the magazine that domestic law-enforcement agencies are investigating a report that Islamic fundamentalists in this country are trying to acquire parts to build an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) abroad-the kind of machine that terrorism experts believe could be deployed to spray chemical agents over populated areas.

The fear is that a UAV assembled overseas could be used against U.S. Assets there, Time says.

At a closed-door briefing Thursday a group of Senators grilled Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge about whether they should clear their families out of the capital in anticipation of an attack.

Ridge counseled them against it, but when pressed by the Senators for the odds of an attack on U.S. Targets at home or abroad in the next several weeks, Ridge, according to one source familiar with the meeting, put the probability at "50 per cent or greater."

In private, Time says White House officials sounded almost resigned to the inevitability of catastrophe. "All we can do," Vice President Dick Cheney told a gathering of top administration officials to discuss bioterrorism, "is ask ourselves, Have we done everything we can to prevent an attack?.."

The U.S. Still doesn't have a "credible and comprehensive system" in place to cope with such attacks, the magazine said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alert; alqaeda; assassinationplots; attacks; congress; domesticdrones; drones; dronesus; jihadinamerica; orange; orangealert; terror; terrorims; uav; us
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And of course, just because it didn't happen on the 12th, doesn't mean it may not happen in the future.

I think there was a very good reason for the orange "high" alert.

1 posted on 02/16/2003 2:55:47 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Sorry -- the article itself seems to have duplicated several paragraphs, but there is some more new stuff at the end. and very scary too.
2 posted on 02/16/2003 2:58:50 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
pinging to follow the discussion.
3 posted on 02/16/2003 3:00:44 PM PST by Iowa Granny (Be kind to your children,,,,, they will select your nursing home)
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To: FairOpinion
You had to go to the Hindustan times to get this article?????
4 posted on 02/16/2003 3:01:47 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: FairOpinion
The article duplicates itself. The article duplicates itself. The article duplicates itself. The article duplicates itself. The article duplicates itself. The article duplicates itself. The article duplicates itself. The article duplicates itself. The article duplicates itself. The article duplicates itself.The article duplicates itself.
5 posted on 02/16/2003 3:01:47 PM PST by jraven
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To: FairOpinion
Possibly to sway Congressional opinion??... maybe??
6 posted on 02/16/2003 3:05:25 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: FairOpinion
how, exactly, does a hindustan times report about a story that was in the american time magazine and that has already been all over the place qualify as breaking news?

when a story says that it is based on something in time magazine, you can be pretty sure that the original report has gained notice here already, doncha suppose?

dep

7 posted on 02/16/2003 3:08:20 PM PST by dep
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To: FairOpinion
I agree - but now I'm wondering if this is why Frist allowed the Senate to recess instead of insisting on a filibuster from the dems - so they could all get their families out of town. Hmmmm?? Interesting.

I'm not so sure the dems would have been this concerned.
8 posted on 02/16/2003 3:10:04 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: sit-rep
Possibly because it's true?

I do think that the truth is at least a few orders of magnitude worse than what we are being told, a few snippets from here and there occasionally let us see the tip of the iceberg.

From some of these "snippets", I think that the US government doesn't just "think", but knows beyond a shadow of doubt that Al Qaeda has one or more radiological bombs and lethal nerve gas. The only question is not whether they have it, but whether and when they will use them.
9 posted on 02/16/2003 3:11:24 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion; PhiKapMom; Dog Gone; mhking; hchutch; Grampa Dave; MeeknMing; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
This is what Mort Kondrake was alluding to the other night on Brit Humes show. Members of Congress came out of a security briefing ashen..
10 posted on 02/16/2003 3:12:53 PM PST by Dog
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To: Catspaw; leadpenny
fyi..
11 posted on 02/16/2003 3:14:58 PM PST by Dog
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To: FairOpinion
Ya, maybe....

How long have we been hearing about threats? I hope to God I am wrong, but, what if I am not?

I think it is quite sad I got this gut feeling, but I got it from somewhere...

SR

12 posted on 02/16/2003 3:16:46 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
You saying the threats aren't real??
13 posted on 02/16/2003 3:19:23 PM PST by Dog
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To: dep
Touche'.

You are right. Point well taken.

But in my defense, at least the online edition of Time didn't seem to have some of the detail, such as the actual date of Feb. 12.
14 posted on 02/16/2003 3:19:23 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Bullpucky. The truth is that any tip will send these clowns in to a tizzy because they are in extreme CYA mode. If the threat is so vague and the target unidentified, they should simply not issue an alert. And if the target were identified then they would be able to capture those responsible. In other words, all of these alerts, every one of them, is pointless and it is our patriotic duty to ignore them and get on with our bussines. But you are always free to keep swallowing the line after every alert that tells you how justified they were and how they just saved you and your family from a fate worse than death. Or you can wise up and recognize that the bureaucrats are playing the American public for fools.
15 posted on 02/16/2003 3:20:20 PM PST by clamboat
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To: dep
when a story says that it is based on something in time magazine, you can be pretty sure that the original report has gained notice here already, doncha suppose?

Kindly show the rest of us all the posts about the Time Magazine expose - in fact, show us the actual Time Magazine article. I'm sure the rest of us would like to see it.

Someone mentioned that they heard it for the first time on the Sunday AM shows today.

I may be wrong but I bet it will be in tomorrow's Time Magazine.

This also explains why Frist abruptly recessed.

16 posted on 02/16/2003 3:20:52 PM PST by Seeking the truth (I'm going on the FRN Cruise - How about you? - Details at www.Freerepublic.net)
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To: CyberAnt
You wrote:

"I agree - but now I'm wondering if this is why Frist allowed the Senate to recess instead of insisting on a filibuster from the dems - so they could all get their families out of town. Hmmmm?? Interesting. "

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Might 'splain a thing or two, eh?

FRegards,

17 posted on 02/16/2003 3:22:24 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: Dog
Now I remember, yes, I think you are right.
Members of Congress realizing, they could be targets themselves.
18 posted on 02/16/2003 3:22:36 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Seeking the truth; PhiKapMom
Thursday night I think......... Mort Kondracke alluded to this....PhiKapMom heard it also..
19 posted on 02/16/2003 3:24:02 PM PST by Dog
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To: PeterPrinciple
I checked the Times and while it had some of the info the Hindustani Times had, but the HT had the extra info of the actual date, which I haven't seen elsewhere.

Here is the link to the Times article. ( I don't remember whether we are allowed to post from there a full article, so I'll just leave it with the link)

The State of Our Defense
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030224/nhomeland.html
20 posted on 02/16/2003 3:24:53 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Dog
This is what Mort Kondrake was alluding to the other night on Brit Humes show. Members of Congress came out of a security briefing ashen...

Is there further discussion of this anywhere?

21 posted on 02/16/2003 3:25:34 PM PST by Dont Mention the War
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To: Dog
I don't know...

All I am saying is there has been threat after threat for the past year. No arrests have been totally Concrete imo. All I am saying is everytime there is a resistance in the natuaral flow of Government, we have another threat warning.

Again, I hope I am wrong...

SR

22 posted on 02/16/2003 3:25:51 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: FairOpinion
And of course, just because it didn't happen on the 12th, doesn't mean it may not happen in the future.

Remember too that 9/11 itself was supposed to occur earlier in the year (sometime in the summer) and it was delayed.

23 posted on 02/16/2003 3:26:41 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Dog
The last bunch of terrorists who attacked member of Congress were pardoned by President Jimmy Carter.
24 posted on 02/16/2003 3:26:45 PM PST by Grand Old Partisan
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To: FairOpinion; DoughtyOne; spectre
And of course, just because it didn't happen on the 12th, doesn't mean it may not happen in the future.

It also doesn't mean the event wasn't stopped before it happened, which is true in more cases than we know. According to one interview on FNC, they don't publicize their successes very often, lest they give away their methods and informants.

Yet, the media has been strangely silent on this angle, except for Time. I haven't heard it discussed on any of the networks, although one commentator on FNC alluded to it briefly.

25 posted on 02/16/2003 3:27:04 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: Seeking the truth
show us the actual Time Magazine article.
26 posted on 02/16/2003 3:27:52 PM PST by dep
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To: Dont Mention the War
Let me go back and find the thread I posted to PhiKapMom about this..

Also there was a story posted on FR about heavily armed guards patrolling Captiol Hill last week..

27 posted on 02/16/2003 3:28:42 PM PST by Dog
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To: FairOpinion
HT had the extra info of the actual date, which I haven't seen elsewhere.

that's because the date given by the hindi times is wrong. it was actually feb. 13, thursday.

dep

28 posted on 02/16/2003 3:28:54 PM PST by dep
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To: dep
that's because the date given by the hindi times is wrong. it was actually feb. 13, thursday.

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Where was this info? I haven't seen any actual dates anywhere. And of course they may have used some code, something simple as add 3 or 5 or wahtever to any date mentioned. I also wondered if all the various numbers mentioned by Bin Laden so carefully, were some coded info.
29 posted on 02/16/2003 3:31:29 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Dog
I heard it, too. I had been trying to remember when and where, but now I DO remember.
30 posted on 02/16/2003 3:32:45 PM PST by MagnoliaMS
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To: FairOpinion
Think maybe the duct tape foiled an attack for now? Could be it also foiled the rat filibuster. All those that knocked Frist, and we know who they are, might want to reconsider.
31 posted on 02/16/2003 3:33:45 PM PST by Kahuna
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To: Dog
I heard it, as well. It was pretty scary, to say the least.
32 posted on 02/16/2003 3:35:13 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (I heart "New" Europe!)
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To: Osage Orange
Well ... I'm willing to give Frist the benefit of the doubt - instead of joining the group which says he backed down on his promise to make them filibuster.

The other reason is that after this supposed "backdown" from Frist, there was not a dem media conference laughing at the repubs for backing down; which is their usual style.
33 posted on 02/16/2003 3:35:54 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Ok here is the thread I posted this info on when I first heard it...

Start at my post 10...then PhiKapMom comfirms she heard it also..

34 posted on 02/16/2003 3:35:56 PM PST by Dog
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To: FairOpinion
From some of these "snippets", I think that the US government doesn't just "think", but knows beyond a shadow of doubt that Al Qaeda has one or more radiological bombs and lethal nerve gas. The only question is not whether they have it, but whether and when they will use them.

I just don't buy it. If they had it...they'd use it. It's that simple. I'm not going to worry about it anyway, if something happens I'll deal with it then. I'll be damned if I'm going to scurry around like some scared squirrel, hoarding plastic and duct tape.

35 posted on 02/16/2003 3:37:03 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Davea; mewzilla
More info on what Mort Kondrake alluded to the other night..
36 posted on 02/16/2003 3:37:26 PM PST by Dog
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Actually, wasn't it a bunch of Puerto Rican separtists who WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON pardoned to get Hillary! the NY City Hispanic vote?
37 posted on 02/16/2003 3:39:57 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Osage Orange
but now I'm wondering if this is why Frist allowed the Senate to recess instead of insisting on a filibuster from the dems

Or maybe he did it to ensure that any filibuster would take place closer to the time that the balloon goes up in Iraq. It would be unseemly for the RATs to be filibustering a judicial appointment when we go to war.

38 posted on 02/16/2003 3:40:07 PM PST by jackbill
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To: Dog
Well, now the ashen description makes sense. But the Congress critters have more folks watching their fannies than the rest of us. Maybe now there'll be less cr@p coming from Congress and more team work. We're all in this together.
39 posted on 02/16/2003 3:40:43 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: dep
Thanks for the link.

The epage, at the end of the article, says it will in the 2/24/03 print version. That's the one hitting the newsstands right now, isn't it?
40 posted on 02/16/2003 3:41:09 PM PST by Seeking the truth (I'm going on the FRN Cruise - How about you? - Details at www.Freerepublic.net)
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To: Alas Babylon!
er, Puerto Rican separtists = TERRORISTS.
41 posted on 02/16/2003 3:41:30 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: CyberAnt
You wrote:

"The other reason is that after this supposed "backdown" from Frist, there was not a dem media conference laughing at the repubs for backing down; which is their usual style."

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Agreed. And good point. FRegards,

42 posted on 02/16/2003 3:43:27 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: pgkdan
Prepared is not the same as scared.
I don't think we should be scared, but it is a good idea, to be prepared, at least to some extent. Not that I am really prepared for everything.

"God give me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

The Courage to change the things I can,

And the Wisdom, to know the difference"
44 posted on 02/16/2003 3:45:11 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Dog
They are here and they are evil. Do not fall for the leftist garbage. America did not grow stronger on leftist
elitist deeds. Screw them all
45 posted on 02/16/2003 3:46:25 PM PST by oldironsides
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To: FairOpinion
AAAAHHHHHTHESKYISFALLING!!!!!!

46 posted on 02/16/2003 3:46:39 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Jeremiah 51;24 "..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: Dog
I heard that...
47 posted on 02/16/2003 3:47:38 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Jeremiah 51;24 "..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: notorious vrc
"... what would be in Al Qaeda's best interest with regards to our elected leaders? Which party would they prefer to be in control of Congress or the White House for that matter? "

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Need you ask? It was Clinton who wouldn't accept Bin Laden on a silver platter from Sudan. I also read that he knew the time when Bin Laden was at a specific location on Afghanistan and held off the attack, until after UBL was gone, that's when he ordered the cruise missile hit, which hit empty tents.

Gore would probably be sending fruit baskets to Bin Laden, asking him, what we should do to please him. :(
48 posted on 02/16/2003 3:48:36 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: mewzilla; Dog
Mewzilla, I wish someone could get that fact through to the democrat despots doing everything they can to undermine this administration at every turn!

Dog, the stationing of missle batteries in the Capital would weigh heavily on a 'flying' weapon being a real threat to try and counter. Along with those batteries, the ground alert CB teams were put on alert for rapid response (should a vehicle, manned or otherwise, carrying chem or bio weapons be brought down).

49 posted on 02/16/2003 3:52:59 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: jackbill
Your #38.....very astute observation, Jack. I'm sure what you pointed out played a role.

Leni

50 posted on 02/16/2003 3:54:11 PM PST by MinuteGal (Escape to FReeper Island on "FReeps Ahoy" cruise. Register today or weep later!)
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