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Rights groups upset by professor's arrest
The Washington Times (UPI) ^ | February 20, 2003 | Anwar Iqbal

Posted on 02/20/2003 5:29:35 PM PST by Indy Pendance

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:01:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON, Feb. 20 (UPI) -- Civil rights groups in Washington warned Thursday that the arrest of an Arab professor in Florida may have negative implications for other Arabs and Muslims living in the United States.

Professor Sami Amin Al Arian was arrested earlier Thursday along with three other Arabs for their alleged links to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a group already declared a terrorist outfit by the State Department.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 02/20/2003 5:29:35 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
The group said that the notion that there are hundreds of terrorists and dozens of sleeper cells in this country was abhorrent to the Arabs and Muslims as it was to other members of the American society.

They'd be doing here what they're doing in the Phillipines if they could get away with it.

2 posted on 02/20/2003 5:31:55 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Indy Pendance
Civil rights groups in Washington warned Thursday that the arrest of an Arab professor in Florida may have negative implications for other Arabs and Muslims living in the United States.

Not unless they are themselves subversives.

3 posted on 02/20/2003 5:34:31 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Indy Pendance
"Mere membership of an organization, in my belief, should not alone be the basis for prosecution," said Kit Gage, president of the National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom. "

Other than Senator robert byrd, does he feel the same if one is a member of, say, the KKK, NRA, or the local Baptist Church?

I would say, no.
4 posted on 02/20/2003 5:34:42 PM PST by sport
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To: Indy Pendance
Nobody of any importance cares what these Arab/Muslim rights groups thinks.

Jesus died for Mohammads sins.
5 posted on 02/20/2003 5:37:28 PM PST by Popof8
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To: Indy Pendance
may have negative implications for other Arabs and Muslims living in the United States.

Of course it will - perticularly for those with terrorist ties and/or support for such groups.

What are we suppose to do - ignore the terrorists out of fear of offending someone?

6 posted on 02/20/2003 5:40:35 PM PST by TheBattman
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To: Indy Pendance

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7 posted on 02/20/2003 5:46:13 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Indy Pendance
Civil rights groups in Washington warned Thursday that the arrest of an Arab professor in Florida may have negative implications for other Arabs and Muslims living in the United States.

Yeh. He might just spill his guts about the rest of the terrorists in the U.S. (So the problem is.....?)

8 posted on 02/20/2003 5:50:46 PM PST by concerned about politics (Stop Taxpayer Supported Socialist Indoctrinatin... Support School Choice ..Demand it.)
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To: Indy Pendance
"Mere membership of an organization, in my belief, should not alone be the basis for prosecution," said Kit Gage, president of the National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom." . . .

. . .belief without knowledge makes for really stupid analysis. . .of course, if this were the only criteria; he would have been arrested months ago. . .and so would every Islamic in America.

These voices, protesting, are worse than stupid. . .

Get smart Kit. . .

9 posted on 02/20/2003 5:54:42 PM PST by cricket
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To: Indy Pendance
Useful idiots alert.
10 posted on 02/20/2003 5:56:47 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: concerned about politics
"Civil rights groups in Washington warned Thursday that the arrest of an Arab professor in Florida may have negative implications for other Arabs and Muslims living in the United States."

. . .life's a b----. . .and these people defending the indefensible will make things worse for these people, not better. . .

11 posted on 02/20/2003 5:56:53 PM PST by cricket
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To: Richard Kimball
They'd be doing here what they're doing in the Phillipines if they could get away with it.


I would like to say, don't worry, but they did 911 and
that was not even the beginning.
12 posted on 02/20/2003 6:00:52 PM PST by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: Indy Pendance

Rights Terrorist and terrorist support groups upset by professor's arrest.


13 posted on 02/20/2003 6:00:55 PM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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To: Indy Pendance
Civil rights groups in Washington warned Thursday that the arrest of an Arab professor in Florida may have negative implications for other Arabs and Muslims living in the United States.

A murderer is a murderer and who cares what these stupid people think. It just so happens that we are at war and the people out to kill us are Muslims and Arabs. So what? If you want us to stop arresting your people than I suggest you stop having them blow up innocent men women and children. Until then, the United States will hunt you down like a wolf hunts a chicken.
14 posted on 02/20/2003 6:02:13 PM PST by rs79bm
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To: Indy Pendance
"the arrest of an Arab professor in Florida may have negative implications for other Arabs and Muslims"

WHY ...?? If other Arabs or Muslims are not committing crimes - why do they have to worry ...??

We cannot allow the rights groups to try to say this arrest reflects badly on ALLLLLLL Arabs and Muslims - IT DOES NOT!!
15 posted on 02/20/2003 6:04:15 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: Richard Kimball
If you willingly provide money to terrorist groups which kill citizens - here or abroad, Israeli or American - then you are as guilty as the terrorists themselves.

Yes, I'd imagine "the Muslim community" in America is a little concerned.

But I particularly like the indictment against Sami because he failed to list his membership in Palestinean Islamic Jihad on his U.S. naturalization application.

After he serves his conspiracy sentence, he'll be deported home.

17 posted on 02/20/2003 6:07:09 PM PST by angkor
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To: CyberAnt
WHY ...?? If other Arabs or Muslims are not committing crimes

Well that's just the point.

By contributing funds to terrorist organizations, they are committing crimes.

The "advocates" are whining, but everyone understands this is the end of the free ride in America.

18 posted on 02/20/2003 6:09:59 PM PST by angkor
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To: Indy Pendance
Commenting on Arian's arrest, Judy Genshaft, president of the University of South Florida, said she was "not particularly surprised" because "there have always been rumors that this might happen. However, it is certainly disturbing when a faculty member is arrested."

No comment on what he is alleged to have done, Judy?

19 posted on 02/20/2003 6:10:16 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (How do you tell two KKK members apart? Ask their wife. After all, she's their mother....)
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To: Indy Pendance
Civil rights groups in Washington warned Thursday that the arrest of an Arab professor in Florida may have negative implications for other Arabs and Muslims living in the United States

Well, if they could get certain members of their ethnic/religious group to stop blowing themselves up or atleast quit taking other people with them than we wouldn't haven any problems would we.

20 posted on 02/20/2003 6:11:34 PM PST by Blue Scourge (Real American...)
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To: angkor
If al-Arian gets the max, he'll be doing life without parole.

But it's amazing that they got the Sami spin machine up & running so soon. I saw two of his defenders on MSNBC this afternoon on Dan Abrams' show, both with the same set of talking points.

21 posted on 02/20/2003 6:12:05 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: angkor
You misunderstand what I said - I'm not saying these people are not guilty of crimes.

I'm saying that the rights groups try to paint this picture as if arresting an Arab or Muslim means we are against all Arabs and Muslims. My question was WHY?? Just because an Arab gets arrested, doesn't mean every Arab is guilty.

That's the point I was trying to make - sorry if I confused you.
22 posted on 02/20/2003 6:12:49 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: Catspaw
They have to had to have it prepared and ready to go just for the day he would get busted.
24 posted on 02/20/2003 6:21:19 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: seamole; Admin Moderator
It's the Times site, but it's a UPI article.

Can you add UPI to the thread? I found the article on the times site, but it came from UPI. Sorry for the mix up.
26 posted on 02/20/2003 6:24:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: seamole
Excellent information. It just makes sense the commies are working with the radical islamic groups. Two peas in a pod.
27 posted on 02/20/2003 6:26:02 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: cricket
The world would be a better place if some influential Islamic mullahs issued edicts proclaiming the virtue of peacefull,mass muslim suicides, to show all us infidels how correct the path of Allah was.They could set the date for tomorrow!And all the Islamic fanatics could attain their ideal heaven, simultaneously!

Everybody everywhere wins!

28 posted on 02/20/2003 6:26:56 PM PST by sarasmom (trying to be calm..)
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To: CyberAnt
My question was WHY?? Just because an Arab gets arrested, doesn't mean every Arab is guilty.

I did understand what you said.

The larger message of the indictment is that contributing to "charities" that support terrorism is now an indictable offense.

The net of felonious behavior has now expanded considerably.

29 posted on 02/20/2003 6:28:55 PM PST by angkor
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To: angkor
I agree.
The American way is innocent until proven guilty. We have now heard that there are two views. We can let the courts decide while this guy sits in prison.
30 posted on 02/20/2003 6:34:06 PM PST by Peaecon
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To: angkor
The larger message of the indictment is that contributing to "charities" that support terrorism is now an indictable offense.

The net of felonious behavior has now expanded considerably.

Yes. Assisting terrorists in any way should be a felonious, indictable offense.

Why would you think otherwise?

31 posted on 02/20/2003 6:35:49 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
"No comment on what he is alleged to have done, Judy?"

She can't comment, because she's involved in litigation with al-Arian. Genshaft is the person who suspended this sorry Jew-killer back in September of 2001, and then finally fired him in December of last year. Naturally, she was promptly sued by the "intellectual freedom" movement for her trouble. Her attorney won't let her make the comments I'm sure she'd like to make, such as "told you so" or "serves the murderous bastard right."

32 posted on 02/20/2003 6:41:19 PM PST by Fabozz
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To: Fabozz
Hang the prikk
33 posted on 02/20/2003 7:01:33 PM PST by Kahuna
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To: Indy Pendance
I cant believe these people. HE'S AN F'N TERRORIST!!
34 posted on 02/20/2003 7:06:50 PM PST by fiftymegaton
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To: angkor
Well ... from what I hear - these people were not arrested for "contributing" to charities - they were arrested for "using" charities to cover up their criminal activities. It's not a new idea - it's been done before.

My advise is - don't give to a charity when you don't know where the money's going!!
35 posted on 02/20/2003 7:20:24 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: seamole
Seamole, that is a HUGE REVELATION!!!!!!!

1. note that Wash. Times carried the UPI story.
The error is UPIs.

2. Note the author. I dont want to be prejudiced, but is this coming from a stright-up reporter here or a 'mole'?

3. "The NCPPF's current president, Sami al-Arian, has been identified as a leading figure in the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, on the State Department terrorist list."

For the UPI article not to recognize the connection is a travesty!
36 posted on 02/20/2003 7:29:02 PM PST by WOSG
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To: Indy Pendance
I have three things to say to these blamethrowers:
1) That's the way it is.
2) Love it or leave it.
3) Get over it and move on!
37 posted on 02/20/2003 7:36:49 PM PST by 100%FEDUP
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To: seamole
Here is a list of seditious organizations which Kit Gage has been involved in:

"Kit Gage
National Coordinator, National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom, Director, First Amendment Foundation and National Committee Against Repressive Legislation Executive Vice President, National Lawyers Guild Board, Guatemala Human Rights Commission/USA. Over 25 years of activism as legal worker and organizer on civil liberties, civil and human rights, protecting political dissent."

http://www.islamonline.net/livedialogue/english/Guestcv.asp?hGuestID=61I7S7

Maybe she would be happier living in a Palestinian refugee camp in the Gaza, rather than in oppressive, evil America.

38 posted on 02/20/2003 7:46:49 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Indy Pendance

MoveOn!

39 posted on 02/20/2003 7:48:21 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Indy Pendance
Where is the indictment for Grover Norquist? He was an ally and friend of Sami Al-Arian. When Al-Arian sent an email to the authorities denying all charges against him, he even cc'ed Norquist on it. It's time to expose this Muslim agent in our midst and eliminate his White House and GOP access.

BLACKLIST THE TRAITOR GROVER NORQUIST NOW!

40 posted on 02/20/2003 7:49:46 PM PST by montag813
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To: Indy Pendance
Dick Beard, chairman of the USF Board of Trustees, said the indictment could "mark the beginning of the end of this issue" at the university, adding that the indictment was one more indication that university's president was right in starting the removal proceedings against the Palestinian professor.

It's not clear whether the appellation, "Palestinian professor", originated with UPI or with the chairman of the USF Board of Trustees, however I thought that Al Arian was born in Kuwait. While I don't have a map in front of me, the last time that I looked at one, Kuwait was far, far away from Palestine. So, is this another example of UPI's "fact checking", or is there really a valid reason to call him a "Palestinian professor"?

41 posted on 02/20/2003 7:50:50 PM PST by The Electrician
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To: angkor
It should be.
42 posted on 02/20/2003 7:54:00 PM PST by sport
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To: Kahuna
Judy Genshaft should be fired for the following reason:

All she would do is suspend this terrorist because she lacked backbone and listened to the lawyers, rather than exhibiting leadership on this and firing the S.O.B.

Even in light of the latest indictment the University of South Florida is still lacking the courage to fire the S.O.B.

What does the University need to see to believe the people?

USF lost attendance over this issue and UCF over took over in attendance.

END ALL FUNDING FOR USF!!!!

STOP FUNDING RESEARCH AT USF


43 posted on 02/20/2003 8:00:32 PM PST by Soul Citizen
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To: Indy Pendance
The implication of the very first statement of this article, to me, is that we shouldn't arrest Arabs because it might lead to other Arabs being arrested. If the man is a terrorist, the fact that he is an Arab should be no excuse; neither should it be a consideration at all.
44 posted on 02/20/2003 8:02:39 PM PST by The Grammarian
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To: Richard Kimball
If the towel fits wear it.
45 posted on 02/20/2003 8:11:30 PM PST by ping jockey (Bite me Allah)
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To: Catspaw
But it's amazing that they got the Sami spin machine up & running so soon. I saw two of his defenders on MSNBC this afternoon on Dan Abrams' show, both with the same set of talking points.

I live less than 2 hrs away from USF - this is not a surprise. The feds have been after Al Arian for years - they just haven't had anything hard to pin him with until now (at least they finally got him!). USF's president, Judi Genshaft, has been trying to get Al Arian canned ever since O'Reilly's first piece on him after the 9/11 attacks, so Sami's supporters have had plenty of time and plenty of practice to get their media performance fine-tuned.

Needless to say, virtually every faculty member throughout the Florida university system, virtually every Florida media outlet and every left-wing "civil rights" and "academic freedom" group you can imagine have gone all out in rushing to Al Arian's defense throughout the years. They've probably been expecting this day for some time now.

This one is going to get really nasty as it makes its way through the courts, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see as many "Free Sami" signs at the next anti-American ANSWER rally as you see "Free Mumia" signs.

46 posted on 02/20/2003 8:11:42 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: Indy Pendance
We know where the Mosques are, and we are watching. They had better behave.
47 posted on 02/20/2003 8:15:52 PM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons be shackled in orange jumpsuits and share a 6 x 9 cell equipped with an RNC webcam.)
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To: Fabozz
She can't comment, because she's involved in litigation with al-Arian. Genshaft is the person who suspended this sorry Jew-killer back in September of 2001, and then finally fired him in December of last year. Naturally, she was promptly sued by the "intellectual freedom" movement for her trouble. Her attorney won't let her make the comments I'm sure she'd like to make, such as "told you so" or "serves the murderous bastard right."

I concur completely. Al Arian's been doing his thing for a long time - much longer than Genshaft has been president of USF. She has been the only one with enough spine to actually do something about this terrorist - previous USF presidents have stuck their heads firmly in the sand. Genshaft has been subjected to incredible abuse at the hands of academics, "civil rights" groups and the media.

49 posted on 02/20/2003 8:24:39 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: seamole; sauropod
Holy crap, seamole.

'Pod, take a look at #23. Sami al-Arian has a connection to the National Lawyers Guild.

Jeez, all these groups really are interchangeable, and they're all working together.
50 posted on 02/20/2003 8:47:45 PM PST by hellinahandcart (Buck Floomberg!)
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