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Koufax Shuts Out Dodgers
The Los Angeles Times ^ | 02/21/2003 | Jason Reid

Posted on 02/21/2003 11:49:27 AM PST by GeneD

February 21, 2003

VERO BEACH, Fla. -- Hall of Fame pitcher Sandy Koufax, whose brilliance on the mound captivated fans in the 1960s and defined the Dodgers' greatest era in Los Angeles, has severed ties with the club in protest of another News Corp. subsidiary.

Koufax, a very private man who established a standard for pitching excellence in four of the most dominant seasons in the game's history from 1963-66, recently informed the Dodgers he would no longer attend spring training here at Dodgertown, visit Dodger Stadium or participate in activities while they are owned by the media conglomerate, because of a report in the New York Post that apparently intimated that he is homosexual. The Post is owned by News Corp.

Through friend Derrick Hall, a Dodger senior vice president, Koufax declined comment Thursday night, but officials familiar with the situation said the legendary left-hander, and Vero Beach resident, broke off ties after 48 years in response to a two-sentence gossip item published in the Post on Dec. 19. The Post reported that a "Hall of Fame baseball hero" had "cooperated with a best-selling biography only because the author promised to keep it secret that he is gay. The author kept her word, but big mouths at the publishing house can't keep from flapping." Koufax, who was not specifically named by the paper, is the subject of Jane Leavy's acclaimed biography, "Sandy Koufax: A Lefty's Legacy," published last September.

News Corp. is undertaking steps to sell the Dodgers, but the timetable doesn't help team officials saddened by what they perceive as the Post's unfair treatment of Koufax....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; US: New York
KEYWORDS: losangelesdodgers; newscorporation; newyorkpost; rupertmurdoch; sandykoufax
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Rupert and his boys are such class acts.
1 posted on 02/21/2003 11:49:27 AM PST by GeneD
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To: GeneD
Well, is he? If they accused me of being gay, I would deny it and move on.
2 posted on 02/21/2003 11:51:46 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: GeneD
Judging by Sandy's reaction, the statement is probably true.

That's not a bad reflection on Rupert or NewsCorp, it's an indictment of SK's aberrant lifestyle.

Nice try, Gene.

3 posted on 02/21/2003 11:53:54 AM PST by jra
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To: AppyPappy
There is a pitcher/catcher joke in there somewhere.
4 posted on 02/21/2003 11:56:52 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: GeneD
....best-selling biography only because the author promised to keep it secret that he is gay. The author kept her word, but big mouths at the publishing house can't keep from flapping.

If the author kept "her word", how did the "big mouths who started flapping" know what to "flap" about?
5 posted on 02/21/2003 11:58:20 AM PST by mr.pink
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To: jra
Read further down (I'd have run the whole thing but it's from the LA Times):

Contacted Thursday by The Times, [Jane] Leavy [Koufax's biographer], a former Washington Post reporter, said she assumed the item was about her book. She called it "thoroughly erroneous on all counts. [The item] was blatantly unfair, scandalous and contemptible. It was thoroughly without basis in so far as it had to do with Sandy or any relationship I had with him professionally. It's not the kind of journalism I practice."

But hey, what do you expect from a "conservative" who gives to Al Gore?

6 posted on 02/21/2003 11:59:10 AM PST by GeneD
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To: jra
OK, so if someone is upset about being accused of being gay, that makes them gay?
7 posted on 02/21/2003 11:59:24 AM PST by sharktrager
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To: Rebelbase
So, now we know what he was loading up the ball with , K Y Jelly!
8 posted on 02/21/2003 12:00:52 PM PST by MAWG
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To: jra
Bullsh*t. Koufax is a class act and has guarded his privacy since he retired. The big mouths who flapped their lips at News Corp. can go to hell.
9 posted on 02/21/2003 12:01:52 PM PST by zarf
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To: GeneD
Did Rupert Murdoch call him gay? Did the Dodgers call him gay?

There is something more to this than an article from a NewsCorp publication calling him gay

A couple of yrs ago.....the NY Post reportedly outed Mike Piazza. Some sports writers affiliated w NewsCorp properties got upset and quit.

They didnt specifically "name" Piazza in particular, but Piazza had a press conference saying he wasnt gay. Of course, I wonder, how Piazza exactly knew they were talking about him?

I bet there is something more to Koufax's Dodger boycott than being outed. Unfortunately most of the people connected to sports (athletes and media people, especially) are quite liberal. And, everyone knows that NewsCorp (specifically Fox News Channel) is not a leftist company
10 posted on 02/21/2003 12:05:05 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (I Wonder What Susan Sarandon Looks Like In A Burqa?)
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To: AppyPappy
A gay co-worker of mine told me many years ago that Sandy Koufax was gay, he aslo told me that Maclolm Forbes was gay. At the time I didn't believe either story, but later found out that he was right about Forbes, and I'll bet that he was right about Koufax too.
11 posted on 02/21/2003 12:05:47 PM PST by Whitebread
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To: GeneD
If someone accused me of being gay, I would regard it as libel.
12 posted on 02/21/2003 12:06:03 PM PST by glorgau
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To: sharktrager
I'm straight.

If someone suggested I was gay, I'd roll my eyes, perhaps chuckle, and that would be the end of it.

Sandy's gonna take his marbles and go home. I'm sure the Dodger Nation will be losing LOTS of sleep over his absence.

The point of my post--and I hope this is in terms simple enough for you to understand--is that the story isn't a negative reflection on NewsCorp, it's an indictment of an aberrant lifestyle. SK's reaction appears to validate the veracity of same.

Cheers.
13 posted on 02/21/2003 12:06:18 PM PST by jra
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To: zarf
For someone whom you claim to be private, he sure is handling this in a very un-private way.

Hmmmmm...
14 posted on 02/21/2003 12:08:15 PM PST by jra
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To: GeneD
Let's be fair here --- according to the article linked, the Post's gossip column (which I would assume this was in) didn't even NAME Koufax in the piece.

I can't expect that anyone would want a corporation wish such "synergy" that the paper should avoid topics having anything to do with another NewsCorp company.

I can see the headlines now:
"Mets Luck out to Defeat Classier, Superior Dodgers 11-4."

"Misguided Teacher's Groups Call Fox Series 'Boston Public' Unrealistic, Despite it's Solid Ratings and Brilliant Advertisers."

more...

And as for the "classiness" of News Corp because of their gossip column, then you must find FR lacking in class because of plenty of the same gossip and rude innuendo that flies around here.


15 posted on 02/21/2003 12:09:57 PM PST by ER_in_OC,CA
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
How do you fit Magic Johnson, Marv Albert, Sandy Koufax, and PJ Carlisemo on one barstool?
16 posted on 02/21/2003 12:11:23 PM PST by mr.pink
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To: GeneD
If this was untrue, it would open the paper up to litigation. If is true I would respect Sandy a lot more if he'd just have let it drop. I'm not going to dwell on it if he is a homosexual. However a person who doesn't allow the media to print truth about them, is not a moral person. A good rule in life is to do things you are proud of. If you're not proud of it, then you're not being true to your own convictions.

When these things surface, stand up and defend them with your head held high. It seems to me that Sandy can't do that in this instance. And that makes me sorrier for Sandy than the revelation itself. Whatevery he is, Sandy should be perfectly at ease with it, if he wants true happiness. When it all comes down to it, what we think shoudn't matter a hill of beans to him.

17 posted on 02/21/2003 12:12:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: mr.pink
How do you fit Magic Johnson, Marv Albert, Sandy Koufax, and PJ Carlisemo on one barstool?

Waiting for the punchline, pinky.....

18 posted on 02/21/2003 12:14:40 PM PST by r9etb
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
The Piazza rumors had been lurking under the surface in New York for a long time.

He was actually quite diplomatic in his denial:

"There's nothing wrong with a gay baseball player, but I'm not him."

19 posted on 02/21/2003 12:14:54 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: AppyPappy
If they accused me of being gay, I would deny it and move on.

Would you then help them to make money?

20 posted on 02/21/2003 12:16:25 PM PST by Redcloak (And now for something completely different...)
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To: jra
Judging by Sandy's reaction, the statement is probably true.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.


21 posted on 02/21/2003 12:17:42 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ()
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To: r9etb
Turn it upside down.
22 posted on 02/21/2003 12:18:28 PM PST by mr.pink
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To: Redcloak
I wouldn't cut my nose off to spite my face.
23 posted on 02/21/2003 12:18:40 PM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: r9etb
UH, turn the stool upside down.
24 posted on 02/21/2003 12:19:38 PM PST by MAWG
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To: mr.pink
How do you fit Magic Johnson, Marv Albert, Sandy Koufax, and PJ Carlisemo on one barstool?

16 posted on 02/21/2003 12:11 PM PST by mr.pink


I think I know the answer....but I dont want to get booted out of FR for distateful posting

25 posted on 02/21/2003 12:20:37 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (I Wonder What Susan Sarandon Looks Like In A Burqa?)
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To: GeneD
Big deal.

I read somewhere that most professional athletes are gay. (Joe Montana excluded, of course.)

26 posted on 02/21/2003 12:21:30 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
>>And, everyone knows that NewsCorp (specifically Fox News Channel) is not a leftist company<<

You might be of a somewhat different opinion if you looked into its relationships and track record with China.

27 posted on 02/21/2003 12:23:27 PM PST by commandante_zero (When you walk through a storm hold your head up high, but a raincoat isn't a bad idea, either.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
UCFRoadWarrior (I Wonder What Susan Sarandon Looks Like In A Burqa?) Well, a burqa of course. It would be a novel relief for us all if she would wear one when addressing world 'affairs'. But of course she wouldn't want to accentuate the absurdities of her position, eh?
28 posted on 02/21/2003 12:23:37 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: The Other Harry
Sorta gives new meaning to the expression " Nasty Slider " doesn't it.
29 posted on 02/21/2003 12:34:10 PM PST by MAWG
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To: MAWG
UH, turn the stool upside down.

Not hardly. I don't know about the others, but Magic Johnson has a really big butt. How would the others even get close enough to sit down? ;-)

30 posted on 02/21/2003 12:37:53 PM PST by r9etb
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To: jra
Are you gay? You seem to be enjoying the smearing of a reputation.
31 posted on 02/21/2003 12:41:16 PM PST by zarf
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To: AppyPappy
Well, is he? If they accused me of being gay, I would deny it and move on.

It's true...or respond with humor. Years ago Mel Gibson was accused of being gay and said "It's true! You should just see me in a dress!"

Koufax is obviously double-gated...and apparently not too proud of it.

32 posted on 02/21/2003 12:47:20 PM PST by montag813
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To: AppyPappy
"Well, is he? If they accused me of being gay, I would deny it and move on."

Unless someone somehow has uncovered a pic of Koufax and Richard Chamberlain frolicking on a beach in Maui...

33 posted on 02/21/2003 12:49:00 PM PST by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The 'Hate America First' Party)
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To: jra
As a lifelong Dodger hater I have no doubt this is totally false. This would be completely at odds with an observant life such as Sandy demonstrated.

Any lie finds believers here though.
34 posted on 02/21/2003 12:53:17 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Islame has had its day.)
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To: MAWG
"Sorta gives new meaning to the expression 'Nasty Slider' doesn't it."

LOL

35 posted on 02/21/2003 12:53:29 PM PST by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The 'Hate America First' Party)
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To: GeneD
I actually witnessed Sandy pitch against San Fran. many times.

I will never forget the game where Sandy was pitching and he seemed to be tiring, and San Fran had scored a lot of runs against him.

Finally the call came for him to leave the game. As he started to walk toward the dugout, the San Fran fans rose from their seats and gave him a standing ovation - just clapping - no yelling of bad names or any such stuff - Sandy was stunned - he came back out of the dugout and waved to us in acknowledgement of our understanding of his ability as a pitcher - even if he was on the opposite team.

I get teared up everytime I think about it.
36 posted on 02/21/2003 12:57:46 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: Rebelbase
"There is a pitcher/catcher joke in there somewhere."

Or maybe a "switch-hitter" Joke?!?

37 posted on 02/21/2003 1:05:20 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: CyberAnt
Great baseball player; Bob Gibson of the same era, also.
38 posted on 02/21/2003 1:17:31 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: jra
Resorting to insult does not strengthen your argument. It makes you look petty.
39 posted on 02/21/2003 1:25:43 PM PST by sharktrager
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To: MAWG
Gee, the fact the author says that it's not Sandy doesn't matter does it.
40 posted on 02/21/2003 1:27:47 PM PST by sharktrager
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To: sharktrager
Hey, it's friday, lighten up. I'm just having a little fun. I remember Koufax when I was a kid. He WAS the man back then on the mound. It was like watching Nolan Ryan. You wondered if today you were gonna see a no hitter.
41 posted on 02/21/2003 1:39:22 PM PST by MAWG
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To: CyberAnt
I agree. Koufax was an exceptional athlete. I still have his 1955, Topps Rookie card (#123), and don't plan to sell it.

My Dad took me to my first professional ball game in 1957,( I was 9 years old). It was in Brooklyn, NY, at Ebbets Field. Dad worked then as a TV camerman for WPIX or WOR. I had a great seat! I met most of all the Brooklyn Dodgers, and recall Mr. Koufax. He was a real nice guy. I don't give a damn what the nitwit crowd says about him....he was one of Baseball's greatest pitchers.

Mustang sends w/Best FReegards.

42 posted on 02/21/2003 3:19:05 PM PST by Mustang
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To: GeneD
ROTFLOL!!! Great Stuff!!!

GO GIANTS!!!!
43 posted on 02/21/2003 3:21:28 PM PST by GOP_Raider (OAKLAND RAIDERS AFC CHAMPIONS!!!!)
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To: GeneD
Must be quite a shock to all those women he has dated.
44 posted on 02/21/2003 3:27:21 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: GOP_Raider
Since moving to California in 1958, LA has won world championships in 59, 63, 65, 81 and 88. During all those seasons (45) in SF the Giants have how many world series titles?
45 posted on 02/21/2003 3:33:59 PM PST by Iowegian (Zero)
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To: Iowegian
Well, not every team can be the beneficiaries of the O'Malley Crime Family.

And if I'm not mistaken, didnt a few Dod-jerk players in the early 80's speak out in favor of gun control???

Alas, GO GIANTS!!!!
46 posted on 02/21/2003 3:57:14 PM PST by GOP_Raider (OAKLAND RAIDERS AFC CHAMPIONS!!!!)
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To: GOP_Raider
And if I'm not mistaken, didnt a few Dod-jerk players in the early 80's speak out in favor of gun control???

Not that I recall, but that can't much of an issue to a bay area resident anyway. Those are your types. It's just jealousy of success that eats on you, admit it. We Dodger fans don't hate you guys, we just feel sorry for you.

47 posted on 02/21/2003 4:03:04 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: Iowegian
Well, it is and always has been with me. Heck, I just thought I was kind of unique being the only known human being alive to be both a Giants fan and a member of the NRA. But that's just me.
48 posted on 02/21/2003 4:22:52 PM PST by GOP_Raider (OAKLAND RAIDERS AFC CHAMPIONS!!!!)
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To: GOP_Raider
Well thanks for the exchange. I think I'm now in mid-season form and spring training just started. BTW, your guys are really going to miss that classy guy, Dusty. But we both know he played for those crime-boss guys. Matter of fact, your last manager Roger Craig is an old Dodger too. At least your owners know class when they see it.
49 posted on 02/21/2003 4:30:33 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: GeneD
Apparently, according to Reuters and AP, the NY Post is withdrawing the Koufax/gay story in their Saturday edition, and will issue an aopology to both Koufax and Leavy (author of the biography).

A.P.: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/sports/AP-BBN-Koufax-Dodgers.html?ex=1046888441&ei=1&en=8bf913d56042f93a

Reuters: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/sports/sports-mlb-koufax.html

Perhaps that puts this story to rest as incorrect B.S.?

50 posted on 02/21/2003 9:02:25 PM PST by nvskibum (curious...)
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