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Idiot GOP Senate Set to Shaft Estrada?
rushlimbaugh ^ | 2/28/2003 | rushlimbaugh

Posted on 02/28/2003 5:57:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW

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1 posted on 02/28/2003 5:57:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Fox has retrated the story, apparently. The Pubs ran some polls and the Rats are really ticking off the Hispanics. Why invoke cloture when your opponent is shooting himself in the foot!
2 posted on 02/28/2003 6:06:28 PM PST by CWW
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To: TLBSHOW
The Rats can filibluster Estrada till the cows come home. The nation will see that their obstructionist agenda is not in the best interest of the nation. We all want to see Estrada on the bench. In good time he will be, but lets not blow up in front of the nation.

I think a little patience from the GOP is just what the good doctor ordered.

3 posted on 02/28/2003 6:06:31 PM PST by TennTuxedo
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To: TennTuxedo
Personally I'd love to see the Demos still tying the Senate up in an anti-Latino filibuster weeks from now, in the midst of all-out war in Iraq. Let the nation see what their true priorities are.
4 posted on 02/28/2003 6:13:26 PM PST by Argus
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To: TLBSHOW
I've heard Rush discuss this topic, and I agree completely. We need the Republican majority in both houses to have the balls to stand up for what is good for our great nation, both in this instance, as well as others.

For example, the GOP leaders weren't even making the Rats stay up through the night to filibuster Estrada. They actually gave them comfort through all this.

If they seek to derail the nomination of a well-qualified Hispanic man, based solely on the fact that he's a conservative, expose them as such, and make them work to maintain this.

5 posted on 02/28/2003 6:16:50 PM PST by Jonez712
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To: CWW
Rush was wrong.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/853849/posts?page=179#179

That was posted at 2:09 PM EST today on this very forum.

Kind of makes you wonder why this article was posted, doesn't it?
6 posted on 02/28/2003 6:22:49 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Kind of makes you wonder why this article was posted, doesn't it?

Yup.

7 posted on 02/28/2003 6:37:17 PM PST by cyncooper (God Be With President Bush)
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To: cyncooper
Is it just me, or does the BIG BOLD HEADLINE not match the article?

Do you see anywhere in that article where it says the GOP is going to shaft Estrada?
8 posted on 02/28/2003 6:38:40 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
Damn GOP senators are squeamish about making anything inconveeeenient for "rats....
9 posted on 02/28/2003 6:42:43 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: CWW
This is Rush Limbaugh take on the story.
10 posted on 02/28/2003 6:44:03 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
It is a shame that even while Rush was reading this today, there was an article already on the web by Byron York on NRO saying that the Fox story was baseless and that the White House is even more involved than ever in getting Big E confirmed.

We will win this one.

11 posted on 02/28/2003 6:44:58 PM PST by LS
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To: stands2reason
Damn GOP senators are squeamish about making anything inconveeeenient for "rats....

Where does it say that?

12 posted on 02/28/2003 6:47:18 PM PST by Howlin
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To: LS
I really liked what Rush had to say here......

I know they say there are new rules making a filibuster harder, but so what? And don't tell me that it's not "practical" anymore, because people have to go to the bathroom. That's nothing new.

Force them to get out there and filibuster this eminently qualified man, as rated unanimously by the American Bar Association. Miguel Estrada is just a name to us, but his life is being destroyed here. It's not because he's unqualified; it's because Democrats don't like how he might think. Read George Will's column. Chuck Schumer didn't bother to ask Estrada a single question. He claims not to know any less qualified judge, when in fact he knows less qualified judges who went to the Supreme Court! Just this week, President Bush pledged to stand by Estrada until he was sworn in. We know no other nominee has been asked to give nor should give opinions on issues that may come before the court. Their job is to apply the law, not to make law or let their opinions get in the way of rulings.


13 posted on 02/28/2003 6:50:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: LS
Well, while Rush was on, I was reading the posts here, and there were a couple quoting that article.

Needless to say, I placed calls. To Hatch, Frist, and my own Senators.

All said they're gonna see this through. Twenty minutes after talking to Hatch staffer, Rush says he's getting calls from Hatch office, saying story's wrong.

Oh well. Gave me a chance to suggest the 'shun linda dashle strategy.' Guy at my senator's office said a couple people had suggested that. Who knows?
14 posted on 02/28/2003 6:50:29 PM PST by Mr. Thorne (Where's the global warming?! I'm cold NOW!)
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To: Howlin
Probably doesn't. I got the impression while watching C-SPAN. Here's Hatch, going great guns, and he slows down to make nice with 'my friends across the aisle.'

I couldn't be a senator. I could NOT be that collegial toward people who would backstab me, and insult my friends and associates for political gain.

I'm doomed, it seems, to the private sector...
15 posted on 02/28/2003 6:53:41 PM PST by Mr. Thorne (Where's the global warming?! I'm cold NOW!)
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To: Howlin
The headline sure does not match the story if you ask me!

I went to the Rush website and sure enough this is the Title -- looks to me like he had started writing the article and had to switch gears when he found out the Fox article was lacking in fact and didn't change the lead in.

Interesting how all of a sudden it ends up on here when the headline was debunked today!
16 posted on 02/28/2003 6:54:13 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: CWW
The Pubs ran some polls and the Rats are really ticking off the Hispanics.

Where did u see anything about polls? I've been waiting to see polling data on this for weeks and would appreciate any info you have. Thanks.

17 posted on 02/28/2003 6:55:11 PM PST by ez ("Stable and free nations do not breed ... ideologies of murder. "- GWB)
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To: TLBSHOW
I don't understand what the harm would be in calling for a cloture vote. Why not make the RAT senators go on the record as supporting the filibuster?

I don't see why calling for a cloture vote does any more for establishing a precedent than the RATs having this filibuster in the first place.

18 posted on 02/28/2003 6:55:33 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Howlin
The headline is poor and gives a wrong impression. It does ask a question, to which the answer is apparently, no. Still, Rush's website operators should have come up with something better.
19 posted on 02/28/2003 6:55:39 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Argus
I think that the Dems will cave once the war starts, pretty much like they did with the confirmation of Ashcroft after 9/11 happened.
20 posted on 02/28/2003 6:56:22 PM PST by RJayneJ
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To: Mr. Thorne
I don't call that being doomed. I call it being smart!

Needless to say, I wouldn't last a day; they'd have to call the Sergeant at Arms to drag me off to the Cloak Room!
21 posted on 02/28/2003 6:56:57 PM PST by Howlin
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To: PhiKapMom
Interesting that the story wasn't released on his web site until way after 6:30....

Make the rats filibuster 24 /7 I say as my opinion from day one. From what I read and hear things changed after the fox story and when Rush ran with it as his opener at 12 noon today and the first caller said go 24/7. Know what I mean?

:>)
22 posted on 02/28/2003 6:59:01 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: aristeides
I know why!
23 posted on 02/28/2003 7:00:06 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: PhiKapMom; Howlin
Interesting how all of a sudden it ends up on here


It was a GIFT.......
24 posted on 02/28/2003 7:01:51 PM PST by deport (Where fools rush in..........)
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To: Howlin
I think we should keep putting those e-mails on those important senators thread. Also if you have a demo senator in your own state, keep sending them messages.IMP
25 posted on 02/28/2003 7:01:58 PM PST by lefty4w (Right takes might..)
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To: TLBSHOW
Thanks for posting this, TLBSHOW. I heard Rush's show today and was hoping someone would post his take on this topic. I wonder how the Fox got the incorrect report about the cloture vote. Didn't check with Frist first?
26 posted on 02/28/2003 7:02:57 PM PST by arasina (If you stand for principle, it will stand for you.)
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To: lefty4w
I agree! Unfortunately, Mr. Edwards is mine! I don't think he's interested in how we feel about it; in fact, he hasn't been seen on the floor since this started...odd, isn't it, since he's on the Judiciary Committee!

But I am contacting Elizabeth Dole.
27 posted on 02/28/2003 7:03:36 PM PST by Howlin
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To: CWW
I for one am extremely happy to see the Fox news retract the story and the Pubs saying they are gonna stick this out.
28 posted on 02/28/2003 7:03:50 PM PST by mrb1960
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To: Howlin
Hmmm. I think I got my articles mixed up. I think the article you linked to in the previous post was the one I meant the comment for---in reference to the fact that the 'pubs would let the 'rats go home at night, etc. to make the filibuster easier for them. Sorry!
29 posted on 02/28/2003 7:04:59 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: TLBSHOW
I know why!

OK, I'll bite. Why?

30 posted on 02/28/2003 7:08:48 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Howlin
You too, eh? Man, if I'm going to be that incensed about something, I AM BLOODY WELL GOING TO MEAN IT! And yes, that means that I WILL be speaking ill of the senator from wherever on the Sunday shows. And NO, he/she is NOT my 'Good Friend.'

Piffle on false courtesy.

Born too late, I was. Sometimes, I think my mind is better suited to a dueling era. Oh well. Too many novels in my impressionable youth.

Still...

Ted Kennedy. Rapiers at dawn. Have your second speak to mine. Your very existance is an insult to me.

>: ]
31 posted on 02/28/2003 7:10:08 PM PST by Mr. Thorne (Where's the global warming?! I'm cold NOW!)
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To: arasina
Your welcome and let the real battle begain.......

The democrats must be stopped from using the constitution as toilet paper. As Rush put it.

He does have a way with words don't you think?

24/7......
32 posted on 02/28/2003 7:10:48 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Mr. Thorne
You're like me then, I consider all that claptrap an insult to my intelligence. I'd like to see a good brawl on the floor!

BTW, I have first dibs on Dashcle; you can have Hillary is you want her -- or whichever one it is that irritates you the most -- I know...I know...it's hard to pick ONE, isn't it?

33 posted on 02/28/2003 7:12:22 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW

Stand Your Ground--GOP!

34 posted on 02/28/2003 7:17:51 PM PST by harpo11 (I have not forgotten September 11, 2001--3000 Innocent Americans Murdered by Terrorist Scum)
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To: aristeides
simple if the rats win this the way they are trying kiss the constitution goodbye and anything that President Bush wants to get done the next 2 years let alone send the rats back to the stone age.

Since that would be the end result of a Gop cave we have nothing to lose to carry out and make and force the rats to a real Filibuster. There is more but I will freepmail you and the others that are sending me freepmail what that is. Rats are watching this site just like they do Rush and his show. No point playing all the cards in front of the democrats that are trash.
35 posted on 02/28/2003 7:20:40 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
Who are you going to believe? Rush or Hatch and Santorum?

Both Hatch and Santorum called Rush and stated that FNC got the story wrong...

Rush himself stated he felt relieved...

You were here on FR when it all came down and now you post this?
36 posted on 02/28/2003 7:25:15 PM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: ez
Tony Snow called Hannity and stated that FNC had internal polling that the Dems were losing the Hispanics because of it...
37 posted on 02/28/2003 7:26:50 PM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: Howlin
I'd just enjoy the challenge phase of the whole thing. Can you picture 'Sheets' Byrd if you walked up and slapped him with a gauntlet?

He'd probably vapor lock right there on the Senate Floor.

= P

Enuff eeeeevil thoughts for me, I am off! 'Nite, all!
38 posted on 02/28/2003 7:30:02 PM PST by Mr. Thorne (Where's the global warming?! I'm cold NOW!)
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To: TLBSHOW
I honestly thought you had changed the headline because it didn't match the story and I was wrong.

This headline does not go with the story -- my sense is that Rush was going to do a real number on the Republican Senators based on the Fox Story by Major Garrett. I started to tear into that story last night as the 2nd paragraph was wrong not to mention the first one against Republicans. There was no vote to end debate and Republicans did not have a bad night.

Then I saw all the naysayers and decided not to waste my time. I had also heard last night that Garrett had taken quotes out of context, but no way was I going to say anything.

I actually agree with going 24/7 if things don't change -- in fact, I would like to see them do it a couple of days before the bombing starts.

What I would like to know is why some people are so quick to take a Fox story and declare it factual even if there are parts of it that were easily proven wrong? That includes Rush.





39 posted on 02/28/2003 7:31:58 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: PhiKapMom
Because sometimes even Rush is wrong and this is one of those times...
40 posted on 02/28/2003 7:33:20 PM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: marajade
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/854227/posts?page=

Rush gets it right.......
41 posted on 02/28/2003 7:35:40 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: PhiKapMom
I am more frosted at the Democrats for what they're doing to the Constitution vis-à-vis Miguel Estrada's than I am over the anti-war movement.

Rush Limbaugh

I think the fox story was a trail balloon myself.
TLBSHOW
42 posted on 02/28/2003 7:37:53 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
He as much as admitted that he was relieved he was wrong on his show... I heard it and my husband heard it... along with others on the other thread...

Why are you doing this?
43 posted on 02/28/2003 7:38:54 PM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: marajade
I wouldn't be so quick to let the GOP Senate off the hook. I am also relieved that they say they are going to fight to the end for Estrada, and I want to believe them. But the history of GOP courage is neither long nor proud, so I'm not putting my stick away just yet. Trent Lott could always be counted on to bend over for the Democrats, and and we'll soon see if Dr. Frist is made of sterner stuff. I'm still watching...
44 posted on 02/28/2003 7:45:20 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: TLBSHOW
from the article:

"Happily, it turns out the GOP isn't going to call such a vote. The offices of Senators Santorum and Hatch rang up my office on Friday, and said that the Fox story is not accurate. There will be no cloture vote. Hooray!"
45 posted on 02/28/2003 7:45:20 PM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: Always A Marine
That would mean that Hatch, Santorum and Frist now all lie... I don't think so...
46 posted on 02/28/2003 7:46:10 PM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: Howlin
Kind of makes you wonder why this article was posted, doesn't it?

Yep. Hmmmmm.

47 posted on 02/28/2003 7:46:26 PM PST by nicmarlo (** UNDER GOD **)
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To: TLBSHOW
The Fox story was wrong! And I will repeat it -- it was WRONG!

Major Garrett wrote a hit piece on Republicans and it was not a trial balloon. Senator Frist doesn't operate that way -- he is above board and filled with integrity. He doesn't play the trial balloon game.

Rush was WRONG to have followed the Fox story without checking out facts and he admitted he was wrong after Hatch/Santorum's offices called. They are not caving, were never going to cave and that is the story.

Major Garrett did a disservice to the Senate Republicans and a lot of that story is still on the Fox site although the part about being a bad night to Republicans was changed. You don't take comments out of context and print them in a story when they could have a different meaning.



48 posted on 02/28/2003 7:49:00 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: Howlin; justshe
it looks to me as if Rush was at first going with what FNC was reporting and then the font in the article changes and the story changes...

I believe whoever posted the article and posted in ( ) is misleading those who read it at FR.
49 posted on 02/28/2003 7:49:15 PM PST by sabe@q.com
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To: marajade
Think what you want. Rush wrote and posted it long after his show was over. He means what is here. I am sure he can clear it all up for those that can't understand it on his show Monday.


50 posted on 02/28/2003 7:54:34 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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