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Ithaca's counterculture clash: Wegmans rejects political message on yogurt
Ithaca Journal ^ | Originally published Saturday, March 1, 2003 | By DAN HIGGINS and KELLI GRANT

Posted on 03/01/2003 4:44:31 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

Edited on 05/07/2004 8:00:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

ITHACA -- Barbara Smith thinks we're living in a dark time for unpopular ideas, especially if you print them on your home grown yogurt.

Smith said she got a quick lesson in free speech Friday when the supermarket chain Wegmans said it wouldn't accept the latest shipment of her family's Meadowsweet yogurt, which bore new labels that read: "Stop the War on Iraq."


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: iraq; ithaca; thecityofevil; traitorlist; wegmans; yogurt
...the company, which has stores in New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, is strict about its "no causes" policy...[but]...A quick visit by a reporter to the Wegmans store in Ithaca on Friday evening revealed a number of products whose labels seem to espouse causes, in direct violation of Wegmans policy [including] ....saving endangered species...Boxtops for Education...Keep America Beautiful...compassion, and action for people, animals, and the environment.

Notice that the other messages all tend to be generic "feel good" causes, not direct political action "to gain publicity for the antiwar movement and the upcoming rally."

The fact that neither the reporters or these freaks are able (or deliberately unwilling) to draw the distinction speaks volumes.

Also, the picture (not posted) that accompanied the article noted that the Smith farm is in Lodi, not Ithaca. Lodi is (was!?!?) one of the more conservative areas in the Finger Lakes. Now freaks like this are migrating out of Ithaca to live there. Infesting the surrounding, conservative, area is just one more reason Ithaca is the City of Evil.


1 posted on 03/01/2003 4:44:31 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; LibKill; gaspar; bentfeather; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; ...
City of Evil
2 posted on 03/01/2003 4:45:18 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
This broad (yogurt maker) tickles me. Use a capitalist venture to make the good money, and in turn do her best to wreck the very system that benefits her the good life.

Danny Wegman being a jew and an astute businessman is not about to become a willing partner is such anti-Americanism.

3 posted on 03/01/2003 4:52:12 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
City of Evil bump.

BTW: any news on the Cornell e-mail fiasco?
4 posted on 03/01/2003 4:52:55 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Support the handicapped, hire a liberal...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Wegman's is a great grocery store. One of the few things I miss about living in Onondaga County. No offense. It's just the weather.
5 posted on 03/01/2003 4:56:16 AM PST by speedy
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
BTW: any news on the Cornell e-mail fiasco?

The Ithaca Journal, faced with national press on the matter, finally printed the AP story. As a general rule, they try to avoid printing anything that might anger "the master on the hill," but it finally became inevitable. Of course, they sort of buried the article.

6 posted on 03/01/2003 5:00:37 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Natale said that company policy clearly prohibited products or any members of the public from "soliciting funds or support, or distributing written materials for any organization, activity or cause," she said, quoting the company's policy manual.

To be fair, according to the statement above, the other products named ARE soliciting funds or support. However they are for politically neutral causes like Keep America Beautiful.

I wish I could say that if Wegmans were to sell anti-war products I would stop shopping there, but I stopped several years ago.

Something about Wegmans just feels like utopia yuppieville to me. I get a bad vibe there, so I switched to Tops.

Also Wegmans was the first in our area to have the Grocery Shopping Card which lets them record all your purchases and sell the information. They pushed the cards on the public by not allowing uncarded shoppers to participate in sale items, an act which really frosted me. Now it's commonplace and you can't escape it, but at the time it caused Wegman to lose my buisness.

FWIW...

7 posted on 03/01/2003 5:07:48 AM PST by ez ("Stable and free nations do not breed ... ideologies of murder. "- GWB)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Smith, her husband, and five children make the yogurt themselves in a kitchen attached to their barn

Bet a visit from a health inspector couldn't hurt.

8 posted on 03/01/2003 5:10:47 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: cynicom
Danny Wegman being a jew and an astute businessman is not about to become a willing partner is such anti-Americanism.

Actually I believe the Wegman family is Catholic. They have donated millions to Rochester, NY Catholic charities including the parochial school system. That being said Danny Wegman is certainly a terrific businessman and Wegmans is the only supermarket my family will shop in.

9 posted on 03/01/2003 5:11:09 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: ez
Something about Wegmans just feels like utopia yuppieville to me. I get a bad vibe there, so I switched to Tops.

Funny thing is that that's what I really like about Wegmans- the upscale feel of the place. And the amazing produce section. The only supermarket I'll shop in. Too bad it's not a public company- I'd buy stock and get back a little of the money I've spent there over the years.

10 posted on 03/01/2003 5:14:44 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: jalisco555
Danny is jew...Wegmans has been rated as the countries number one super market a few times. Now living in the south, I miss their first rate stores.
11 posted on 03/01/2003 5:19:24 AM PST by cynicom
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To: ez
If I remember correctly, Tops is foreign owned. Belgians or Dutch perhaps. My only choice is Food Lion which is Dutch owned and very poorly run.
12 posted on 03/01/2003 5:22:39 AM PST by cynicom
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To: sauropod
Smith said she got a quick lesson in free speech Friday when the supermarket chain Wegmans said it wouldn't accept the latest shipment of her family's Meadowsweet yogurt, which bore new labels that read: "Stop the War on Iraq." ...The yogurt labels also told people how to buy bus tickets to attend an antiwar rally scheduled for March 15 in Washington.

Your giggle for the day...

13 posted on 03/01/2003 5:28:27 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: speedy
One of the few things I miss about living in Onondaga County. No offense. It's just the weather.

Whats wrong with 7 months of cold and the occasional boat-load of snow? :) Wegman's is a great store, though. It does get a little crowded at times - especially the Dewitt store. It can be like shopping on a sidewalk in Manhattan.

14 posted on 03/01/2003 5:29:15 AM PST by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: Keeper of the Turf
...the Dewitt store...

I actually drive up there once in a while. It's the only Wegmans I know of that sells the 12 oz (as opposed to 25 oz) bottles of Hennepins beer.

Mmmmm....Hennepins.....

15 posted on 03/01/2003 5:32:36 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: jalisco555
Funny thing is that that's what I really like about Wegmans- the upscale feel of the place.

To me it feels like shopping at the country club. As a musician, I feel more comfortable in the "outer city" stores and not the suburbs where eveybody is on the same schedule, and has 2.5 cars and a camper, and a play "tower" in the back yard.

16 posted on 03/01/2003 5:33:58 AM PST by ez ("Stable and free nations do not breed ... ideologies of murder. "- GWB)
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To: cynicom
If I remember correctly, Tops is foreign owned. Belgians or Dutch perhaps. My only choice is Food Lion which is Dutch owned and very poorly run.

As far as I know, the Wegmans family here in Rochester still owns the chain unless they sold it. I used to shop Food Lion when I lived down south.

17 posted on 03/01/2003 5:37:28 AM PST by ez ("Stable and free nations do not breed ... ideologies of murder. "- GWB)
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To: Keeper of the Turf
Wegman's is a great store, though. It does get a little crowded at times - especially the Dewitt store

Hey, that's where I shop too. Crazy place sometimes. I would have thought the big new P&C would have made a dent but no. Wegmans could teach other businesses about customer loyalty.

18 posted on 03/01/2003 5:55:24 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: ez
Tops is owned by Royal Ahold which is a Dutch Company

What exactly does Danny Wegmans religion have to do with anything? I thought only liberals feared religion.
19 posted on 03/01/2003 5:57:58 AM PST by SirFishalot
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To: ez
To me it feels like shopping at the country club. As a musician, I feel more comfortable in the "outer city" stores and not the suburbs where eveybody is on the same schedule, and has 2.5 cars and a camper, and a play "tower" in the back yard.

LOL. That's me all right. Although the kids have outgrown the play tower.

20 posted on 03/01/2003 5:58:43 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: jalisco555
I would have thought the big new P&C would have made a dent but no.

It might have made a dent, but you'd never notice. There is a greater concentration of people that live near the Wegmans in Dewitt than the P&C in Fayetteville.

21 posted on 03/01/2003 6:01:42 AM PST by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: speedy
"Wegman's is a great grocery store."

You ain't just kiddin'. I grew up in Rochester and used to go there as a kid. I'm 55 now. Although I live in Rome, New York now, I have to make a regular trek to Wegmans in Fayetteville to get my fix. It's a pleasure to shop at those stores. They don't have anything like them around here. I've always wished that they'd build one in my neck of the woods, but since the trip is only about 45 minutes one way, it's definitely worth it.

22 posted on 03/01/2003 6:03:03 AM PST by mass55th
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To: Keeper of the Turf
I always say that if I ever move away the thing I'll miss the most is Wegmans!
23 posted on 03/01/2003 6:03:39 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: hellinahandcart
Smith said she got a quick lesson in free speech Friday

The First Amendment provides that "Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech."

This woman, like many others, somehow misconstrues that into believing that she has the right to express herself in any way in any place, including some one else's private property.

She has no more right to sell her "No War" yogurt at Wegman's than I would to sell "Bomb Iraq" burgers in the local hippie food co-op.

24 posted on 03/01/2003 6:10:23 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
City of Evil bump
25 posted on 03/01/2003 6:14:12 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: jalisco555
I moved and I do!!!!!

Nothing to compare all across the country.

I have to go back during the Rochester 2 weeks of summer(LOL) each year and for Class Reunions...just to go to Wegmans.

They are expecting an expansion to Northern Va and Maryland this year and I may move there to resume my "heavenly shopping"!
26 posted on 03/01/2003 6:24:44 AM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: ez; Behind Liberal Lines
When I was checking out at the Ithaca Wegmans yesterday afternoon, at the next register was one of Ithaca's most vocal liberals. I don't know her name but she's forever bitching at City Council meetings and in the press.
Of course, she was walking through the lane set aside for the handicapped and had a cart full of stuff, unlike the few others in the lane who had just a few items so they wouldn't delay the lane if an elderly person or someone in a wheelchair arrived.
Ithaca, the City of Weasels.
27 posted on 03/01/2003 6:39:31 AM PST by jigsaw
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To: mass55th
Well, I live in NYC, and if you had a store like Wegman's in Manhattan, the lines would go around the block. You can get anything you want in New York, but you can't get it all in one place like you can at Wegman's!! They've expanded into NJ and PA, and I wish them well. I could go for some of their pastrami right about now.
28 posted on 03/01/2003 6:56:41 AM PST by speedy
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To: Keeper of the Turf
Lots of nice people. It's just that that whole thing with the four seasons being June, July, August and Winter that got to me. I always felt like I was living in one of those paperweights, where the snow was always drifting down on me. I tried to put forward my proposal to build a retractable dome over the whole city of Syracuse, but I didn't know who to pay off to get it done.
29 posted on 03/01/2003 7:01:28 AM PST by speedy
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To: jigsaw
I believe the person of whom you speak is disabled in a non-visible kind of way.
30 posted on 03/01/2003 7:09:05 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: mewzilla
Smith, her husband, and five children make the yogurt themselves in a kitchen attached to their barn

Bet a visit from a health inspector couldn't hurt.

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I was thinking the same thing. A little too "rustic" for my taste.

31 posted on 03/01/2003 7:09:46 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it, but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Uh, are there any yogurt consumers who aren't already opposed to the war?
32 posted on 03/01/2003 7:27:12 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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This from the same company who hangs huge Black History Month banners from the ceilings ,and has table top tents in their prepared foods area that list all of the acheivments of blacks. I am gald they finally made a stand, however, I would hail them as the great defneders equality or anything. Besides, in my Wegemans ,getting produce is like shopping on skid row.
33 posted on 03/01/2003 7:59:38 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((no more movies anymore))
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To: speedy
It's just that that whole thing with the four seasons being June, July, August and Winter that got to me.

Actually, you're wrong - there are only two seasons (for drivers, anyway) in upstate New York, "winter" and "construction" ;)

34 posted on 03/01/2003 8:12:11 AM PST by general_re (Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.)
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To: cynicom
Gotta love Wegmans.

Cheap, quality groceries and none of the political crap.

Makes me wanna go buy a sandwich there or something....

35 posted on 03/01/2003 8:14:33 AM PST by jude24
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To: SirFishalot
I never mentioned Danny Wegman's religion.
36 posted on 03/01/2003 8:29:49 AM PST by ez ("Stable and free nations do not breed ... ideologies of murder."- GWB)
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To: jude24
I grew up around Rochester and love Wegmans, but don't consider their prices low at all. Has the Wal-Mart competition really driven them down in the past several months?

The Wegmans are such community-minded people.

My first FR post, btw!

37 posted on 03/01/2003 9:24:52 AM PST by crescentbeach
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To: crescentbeach
Well, congrats.

Their prices have been consistantly better than Tops, I can tell you that. Wal-mart doesnt sell a lot of food around here (driving to the Super-walmart 25 miles away seems silly to me...).

38 posted on 03/01/2003 9:51:39 AM PST by jude24
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I wish we had Wegmans down here in NC. The gorcery stores here suck compared to Wegmans, Tops, and The Giant.
39 posted on 03/03/2003 5:58:34 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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