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Just War or a Just War? (Jimmy Carter MEGA-BARF Alert!!)
The New York Times ^ | March 9, 2003 | Jimmy Carter, unemployed loser

Posted on 03/08/2003 4:30:12 PM PST by Dont Mention the War

The New York Times


March 9, 2003

Just War — or a Just War?


Rob Hatem

By JIMMY CARTER

ATLANTA — Profound changes have been taking place in American foreign policy, reversing consistent bipartisan commitments that for more than two centuries have earned our nation greatness. These commitments have been predicated on basic religious principles, respect for international law, and alliances that resulted in wise decisions and mutual restraint. Our apparent determination to launch a war against Iraq, without international support, is a violation of these premises.

As a Christian and as a president who was severely provoked by international crises, I became thoroughly familiar with the principles of a just war, and it is clear that a substantially unilateral attack on Iraq does not meet these standards. This is an almost universal conviction of religious leaders, with the most notable exception of a few spokesmen of the Southern Baptist Convention who are greatly influenced by their commitment to Israel based on eschatological, or final days, theology.

For a war to be just, it must meet several clearly defined criteria.

The war can be waged only as a last resort, with all nonviolent options exhausted. In the case of Iraq, it is obvious that clear alternatives to war exist. These options — previously proposed by our own leaders and approved by the United Nations — were outlined again by the Security Council on Friday. But now, with our own national security not directly threatened and despite the overwhelming opposition of most people and governments in the world, the United States seems determined to carry out military and diplomatic action that is almost unprecedented in the history of civilized nations. The first stage of our widely publicized war plan is to launch 3,000 bombs and missiles on a relatively defenseless Iraqi population within the first few hours of an invasion, with the purpose of so damaging and demoralizing the people that they will change their obnoxious leader, who will most likely be hidden and safe during the bombardment.

The war's weapons must discriminate between combatants and noncombatants. Extensive aerial bombardment, even with precise accuracy, inevitably results in "collateral damage." Gen. Tommy R. Franks, commander of American forces in the Persian Gulf, has expressed concern about many of the military targets being near hospitals, schools, mosques and private homes.

Its violence must be proportional to the injury we have suffered. Despite Saddam Hussein's other serious crimes, American efforts to tie Iraq to the 9/11 terrorist attacks have been unconvincing.

The attackers must have legitimate authority sanctioned by the society they profess to represent. The unanimous vote of approval in the Security Council to eliminate Iraq's weapons of mass destruction can still be honored, but our announced goals are now to achieve regime change and to establish a Pax Americana in the region, perhaps occupying the ethnically divided country for as long as a decade. For these objectives, we do not have international authority. Other members of the Security Council have so far resisted the enormous economic and political influence that is being exerted from Washington, and we are faced with the possibility of either a failure to get the necessary votes or else a veto from Russia, France and China. Although Turkey may still be enticed into helping us by enormous financial rewards and partial future control of the Kurds and oil in northern Iraq, its democratic Parliament has at least added its voice to the worldwide expressions of concern.

The peace it establishes must be a clear improvement over what exists. Although there are visions of peace and democracy in Iraq, it is quite possible that the aftermath of a military invasion will destabilize the region and prompt terrorists to further jeopardize our security at home. Also, by defying overwhelming world opposition, the United States will undermine the United Nations as a viable institution for world peace.

What about America's world standing if we don't go to war after such a great deployment of military forces in the region? The heartfelt sympathy and friendship offered to America after the 9/11 attacks, even from formerly antagonistic regimes, has been largely dissipated; increasingly unilateral and domineering policies have brought international trust in our country to its lowest level in memory. American stature will surely decline further if we launch a war in clear defiance of the United Nations. But to use the presence and threat of our military power to force Iraq's compliance with all United Nations resolutions — with war as a final option — will enhance our status as a champion of peace and justice.

Jimmy Carter, the 39th president of the United States, is chairman of the Carter Center in Atlanta and winner of the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: falsechristian; jimmycarter; killerrabbit; presidentasswipe; rathatespeech; rememberdesertone; treason; ustroopmurderer
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Go F yourself, Carter. Go pander this crap to the familes of the soldiers YOU KILLED UNILATERALLY in the Iranian desert.
1 posted on 03/08/2003 4:30:13 PM PST by Dont Mention the War
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To: Dont Mention the War
carter, the FAILED PRESIDENT!!

I remember how Reagan beat him SO BAD in the elections. carter, another useless idiot.

2 posted on 03/08/2003 4:38:39 PM PST by crazykatz
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To: Dont Mention the War
Jimmy Carter , Move to Havanna thats where You Belong

UN has approved 2 of the over 200 Wars sense its founding .

Lets ask the People of Rawanda about the effectiveness of the UN Secuirty Counsel or where were you during Pol Pot Slaughter JIMMMY dictators killing People OK by YOU RIGHT

3 posted on 03/08/2003 4:39:52 PM PST by scooby321
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To: Dont Mention the War
Dear Gov.* Carter:

I and many other Americans are curious. Why are you so desperate to ensure the perpetuation of this monster's regime? Why is it necessary for us to ask the U.N.'s permission to defend our nation's interests? You ARE aware, aren't you, that the U.N. charter itself allows for this?

Also, why do you, a former president, follow the despicable example of Bill Clinton and openly criticize a sitting president? Did Pres. Ford ever, at any time, open his mouth and criticize YOUR foreign policy? Did Pres. Nixon? With the debacle of the Iranian Hostage Crisis they certainly could have done so but they did not.

In short, Gov.* Carter, I suggest you shut your mouth. We don't need your whimpy Euro-style view of "diplomacy," nor do we need your opinion.

Thank you for shutting up.

* - Former Presidents are NOT called "Ex-President," or "Former President." There is only ONE President of the United States at any time. When a President leaves office he assumes the title he held before taking office. In this case, it is proper to call either Jimmy Carter OR Bill Clinton "Governor." This is a bit of protocol that the media ignores, yet it is nonetheless true.
4 posted on 03/08/2003 4:40:04 PM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Hey Jimmuh,


5 posted on 03/08/2003 4:41:44 PM PST by dighton
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To: Dont Mention the War
Worst President in US history? I'd say so.
6 posted on 03/08/2003 4:42:32 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Dont Mention the War
as a president who was severely provoked by international crises, I became thoroughly familiar with the principles of a just war, and it is clear that a substantially unilateral attack on Iraq does not meet these standards. This is an almost universal conviction of religious leaders, with the most notable exception of a few spokesmen of the Southern Baptist Convention who are greatly influenced by their commitment to Israel based on eschatological, or final days, theology.

I'm sure most Imams would agree with you jimmy, nice dig at the Southern Baptists by the way.
7 posted on 03/08/2003 4:45:16 PM PST by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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This is the stupid ass who gave nurtured the birth of the jihadists with his ineffectual panty weraing handling of the crisin in Iran and the subsequent hostage situation.

Peanut headed schmuck.

8 posted on 03/08/2003 4:45:38 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: dighton
ROFLMAO!!!!
9 posted on 03/08/2003 4:47:25 PM PST by TADSLOS (Sua Sponte)
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To: Dont Mention the War
by defying overwhelming world opposition, the United States will undermine the United Nations as a viable institution for world peace.

A viable institution for world peace?
Where, when?
10 posted on 03/08/2003 4:48:23 PM PST by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: Conservative til I die
Worst President in US history?

LBJ

11 posted on 03/08/2003 4:49:36 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Dont Mention the War
Like I really need a reminder why I voted for Ronald Reagan in the first presidential election in which I was eligible to vote.
12 posted on 03/08/2003 4:49:58 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (This space left intentionally blank.)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Please, someone, the next time he is up at the top of a ladder, hammering nails for the benefit of the camera, have the decency to shove it over.
13 posted on 03/08/2003 4:50:16 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Dont Mention the War; RJayneJ; Howlin; JohnHuang2

Ah yes, Carter. The President who personally *kept* in place the embargo against Cuba, and then once out of office starting asking that each successive Republican President end it for him.

The same Carter who is personally responsible for Iran falling to the radical Muslims who are the cause of our troubles to this very day.

The same Carter who gave away the Panama Canal.

Oh yeah, and why did Moamar Khadafy give your brother Billy $240,000 while you were in office, Jimmy? You know, your brother who you illegally gave classified U.S. government documents on Libya.

Of course, that money pales compared to your gift of a nuclear reactor and Million$ in bribes to Kim il Jung in North Korea.

14 posted on 03/08/2003 4:50:35 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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15 posted on 03/08/2003 4:51:26 PM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Did anyone see the David Letterman show last night? I was told that Tom Brokaw was on and he was talking about a trip he took to Baghdad last year. Apparently some Iraqi civilian approached Tom and asked him when the U.S. troops were coming and could they be here by Christmas. That says more and means more to me than anything this peanut could ever say!
16 posted on 03/08/2003 4:53:48 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: Dont Mention the War
344 DAYS OF HAND WRINGING AND INDECISIVENESS

THANKS FOT NOTHING, JIMMY!!

17 posted on 03/08/2003 4:54:21 PM PST by TADSLOS (Sua Sponte)
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To: Happy2BMe
That bottom cartoon is wrong. Carter caused stagflation, not inflation. (Hell, he INVENTED stagflation, didn't he?)
18 posted on 03/08/2003 4:57:58 PM PST by Dont Mention the War ("Quinnipiac" - Native American for "Big Smelly Compost Heap of RAT Dung")
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To: Dont Mention the War
Yet more "Mush from the Wimp".
19 posted on 03/08/2003 5:03:55 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Southack
And, the day after he was inaugurated he signed an order giving amnesty for all Vietnam War draft evaders. Jimmah is guilty of treason.
20 posted on 03/08/2003 5:03:58 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker
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