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Just War — or a Just War? (Jimmy Carter MEGA-BARF Alert!!)
The New York Times ^ | March 9, 2003 | Jimmy Carter, unemployed loser

Posted on 03/08/2003 4:30:12 PM PST by Dont Mention the War

The New York Times


March 9, 2003

Just War — or a Just War?


Rob Hatem

By JIMMY CARTER

ATLANTA — Profound changes have been taking place in American foreign policy, reversing consistent bipartisan commitments that for more than two centuries have earned our nation greatness. These commitments have been predicated on basic religious principles, respect for international law, and alliances that resulted in wise decisions and mutual restraint. Our apparent determination to launch a war against Iraq, without international support, is a violation of these premises.

As a Christian and as a president who was severely provoked by international crises, I became thoroughly familiar with the principles of a just war, and it is clear that a substantially unilateral attack on Iraq does not meet these standards. This is an almost universal conviction of religious leaders, with the most notable exception of a few spokesmen of the Southern Baptist Convention who are greatly influenced by their commitment to Israel based on eschatological, or final days, theology.

For a war to be just, it must meet several clearly defined criteria.

The war can be waged only as a last resort, with all nonviolent options exhausted. In the case of Iraq, it is obvious that clear alternatives to war exist. These options — previously proposed by our own leaders and approved by the United Nations — were outlined again by the Security Council on Friday. But now, with our own national security not directly threatened and despite the overwhelming opposition of most people and governments in the world, the United States seems determined to carry out military and diplomatic action that is almost unprecedented in the history of civilized nations. The first stage of our widely publicized war plan is to launch 3,000 bombs and missiles on a relatively defenseless Iraqi population within the first few hours of an invasion, with the purpose of so damaging and demoralizing the people that they will change their obnoxious leader, who will most likely be hidden and safe during the bombardment.

The war's weapons must discriminate between combatants and noncombatants. Extensive aerial bombardment, even with precise accuracy, inevitably results in "collateral damage." Gen. Tommy R. Franks, commander of American forces in the Persian Gulf, has expressed concern about many of the military targets being near hospitals, schools, mosques and private homes.

Its violence must be proportional to the injury we have suffered. Despite Saddam Hussein's other serious crimes, American efforts to tie Iraq to the 9/11 terrorist attacks have been unconvincing.

The attackers must have legitimate authority sanctioned by the society they profess to represent. The unanimous vote of approval in the Security Council to eliminate Iraq's weapons of mass destruction can still be honored, but our announced goals are now to achieve regime change and to establish a Pax Americana in the region, perhaps occupying the ethnically divided country for as long as a decade. For these objectives, we do not have international authority. Other members of the Security Council have so far resisted the enormous economic and political influence that is being exerted from Washington, and we are faced with the possibility of either a failure to get the necessary votes or else a veto from Russia, France and China. Although Turkey may still be enticed into helping us by enormous financial rewards and partial future control of the Kurds and oil in northern Iraq, its democratic Parliament has at least added its voice to the worldwide expressions of concern.

The peace it establishes must be a clear improvement over what exists. Although there are visions of peace and democracy in Iraq, it is quite possible that the aftermath of a military invasion will destabilize the region and prompt terrorists to further jeopardize our security at home. Also, by defying overwhelming world opposition, the United States will undermine the United Nations as a viable institution for world peace.

What about America's world standing if we don't go to war after such a great deployment of military forces in the region? The heartfelt sympathy and friendship offered to America after the 9/11 attacks, even from formerly antagonistic regimes, has been largely dissipated; increasingly unilateral and domineering policies have brought international trust in our country to its lowest level in memory. American stature will surely decline further if we launch a war in clear defiance of the United Nations. But to use the presence and threat of our military power to force Iraq's compliance with all United Nations resolutions — with war as a final option — will enhance our status as a champion of peace and justice.

Jimmy Carter, the 39th president of the United States, is chairman of the Carter Center in Atlanta and winner of the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: falsechristian; jimmycarter; killerrabbit; presidentasswipe; rathatespeech; rememberdesertone; treason; ustroopmurderer
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To: Dont Mention the War
Hey! That's no way to talk to a former president! You should say: "With all due respect, Go F--- yourself, Carter."

Now doesn't that sound better?

Personally, I think Jimmy is in need of a good butt-kicking. Of course, with all due respect.
21 posted on 03/08/2003 5:04:38 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Southack
ON 23 January 1980, in his State of the Union Address, President Jimmy Carter announced a new American policy that came to be called the Carter Doctrine. Referring to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Mr. Carter warned that:

An attempt by an outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.




How can he sleep at night?

22 posted on 03/08/2003 5:05:39 PM PST by Lokibob
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To: Dont Mention the War
How can Jimmy Carter talk about foreign policy with a straight face? His administrations was a complete cluster *%#@.
23 posted on 03/08/2003 5:09:31 PM PST by chasio649
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To: Dont Mention the War
Mr. President, Have you forgotten????
24 posted on 03/08/2003 5:20:46 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: Conservative til I die
Worst President in US history? I'd say so.

Well he's a contender. But I still say that that distinction belongs to Bubba Spunkmeister.

25 posted on 03/08/2003 5:28:57 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Dont Mention the War
I don't remember any Carter op-eds criticizing Bill Clinton over the non-UN approved war in Kosovo. I wonder why?

I used to think Jimmy was an OK guy (though a lousy president) when he was doing something useful -- pounding nails for Habitat for Humanity. He's really revealed himself to be a first class jerk in the past few years.

The Jimmy and Bill show enabled N. Korea to acquire nukes -- their lasting contribution to "world peace". On that fact alone, you'd think both of them would want to crawl into a hole.

Jimmy Carter: just another corrupt hypocritical Democrat. You should have kept pounding nails, Mr. Nobel Peace Prize.

26 posted on 03/08/2003 5:29:04 PM PST by Semi Civil Servant (I dont have a clever tag line. I'm terribly sorry.)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Jimmuh would have us send a few helicopters into Iraq to be shot down. Because, after all, what has Saddam done to us yet? Whatta guy in the clutch.
27 posted on 03/08/2003 5:29:56 PM PST by ricpic
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To: Dont Mention the War
Seems it musta' been Jimmy Carter who allowed the North Koreans to build more than 100 atom bombs.
28 posted on 03/08/2003 5:58:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Dont Mention the War
Hey Jimmah! Have a cookie!


29 posted on 03/08/2003 6:01:31 PM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: dighton

30 posted on 03/08/2003 6:05:06 PM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Dont Mention the War
As a Christian...

Nonsense. Carter is a babykiller, and it impossible for anyone to be both a babykiller and a Christian. He was our first aggressively pro-abortion President. He was the most pro-abortion President until Clinton.

31 posted on 03/08/2003 6:06:36 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: muawiyah
I'm remember that in 1980, at the tender age of 15, I was watching some news report shortly before Reagan's triumph and there was a sign that said (and says) it all: "Why not an actor - we've had a clown for the last four years!!"

Lot longer than four years, to our detriment.
32 posted on 03/08/2003 6:09:18 PM PST by torchthemummy
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To: Dont Mention the War
The war's weapons must discriminate between combatants and noncombatants.

As always, Carter lies. This is not one of the classic conditions of a just war. What is disallowed is deliberate targeting of civilians, and what is required is sincere effort to avoid civilian casualties. But the condition is not absolute, as Carter states it. Carter is an inveterate liar. He doesn't have the same reputation as a liar that Clinton has, only because didn't have personal sexual scandals to lie about. Carter lied about the military, about foreign policy, about the budget, about the effects of tax cuts, about the cause of inflation, about Reagan's "racism," about the killing of the unborn, about being a Christian, etc. Just not about sex.

33 posted on 03/08/2003 6:11:42 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Illbay
Thank you for pointing this out--that once a man leaves the White House, he should be addressed by the highest title he had earned before his term as President. The same is true of Vice Presidents, btw. Miss Manners once did a column on this, bemoaning the loss of this traditional bit of protocol, which was adopted early on--by Jefferson, I think--as a sign of humility and as a tribute to the concept of the citizen politician. Thus, I hope that all on FR adopt the following usages for our former Presidents: Governor Carter, Governor Reagan, Ambassador Bush, The Rapist.
34 posted on 03/08/2003 6:17:15 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: tet68
The Souther Baptist Convention also happens to be opposed to butchering babies, while Jimmy was our first aggressively pro-abortion President, and our last pro-abortion President not to be credibly accused of rape.
35 posted on 03/08/2003 6:22:29 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Petronski
I just found some wallpaper!!!
36 posted on 03/08/2003 6:25:28 PM PST by mingwah
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To: TADSLOS
Try 444 days. You give Carter too much credit.
37 posted on 03/08/2003 6:27:07 PM PST by WarEagle
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To: TADSLOS
That was 444 days!
38 posted on 03/08/2003 6:29:49 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Illbay
Those are leaders earning popular respect without saying a thing. Those are leaders devoid any respect no matter how loud they shout.

Jimmuh Carter IS the leader in the latter group.

39 posted on 03/08/2003 6:30:35 PM PST by Toidylop
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To: Arthur McGowan; WarEagle
OOPS, Phat Phinger. Thanks for the correction.
40 posted on 03/08/2003 6:36:44 PM PST by TADSLOS (Sua Sponte)
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