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BILL CLINTON TO EXPLAIN HIS RECESSION ON CBS’ “60 MINUTES” (RNC Research)
Republican National Committee ^ | 8 March 2003 | RNC Research

Posted on 03/08/2003 5:29:15 PM PST by PhiKapMom

RNC RESEARCH

BILL CLINTON TO EXPLAIN HIS RECESSION ON CBS’ “60 MINUTES”

Months Before Final 60 Minutes Ran Out On Clinton Administration, The Economic Recession Had Already Begun

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“President Bush’s main economic policy -- the large tax cut of last year was not responsible for any of the current damage [to the economy]. Indeed, given the twin shocks of 9/11 and the post-Enron stock market decline, the short-term stimulus created by the tax cuts has turned out to be fortuitously well timed.” (Editorial, “Negative Al Gore,” The Washington Post, October 5, 2002)

ECONOMIC DATA CONFIRMS SLOWDOWN BEGAN UNDER CLINTON

Economic Statistics Confirm U.S. Economy Was Shrinking While Clinton Was In Office. “America went into recession long before the terrorist attacks of September 11th. … The new figures suggest … that the economy grew more slowly in … 2000 than was previously thought: GDP rose by 3.8% (compared with last year’s estimate of 4.1% and an initial figure of 5%).” (“Unwelcome Numbers,” The Economist, 8/3/02)

Market Indicators Confirm Recession Started On Clinton’s Watch. According to the Council of Economic Advisors, “it was widely recognized that the economy was weak coming into 2001.”

* The NASDAQ peaked on March 10, 2000;

* The S&P 500 peaked on March 24, 2000;

* The Dow Jones peaked on January 14, 2000;

* Manufacturing employment started falling in August 2000;

* Industrial production started falling in July 2000; and

* Manufacturing trade and sales started falling in April 2000.

(Council Of Economic Advisors, Talking Points, 9/20/02)

Congress’ Joint Economic Committee Says Signs Of Economic Slowdown Were Apparent In Mid 2000. “By mid-year 2000 … signs of an economic slowdown began to proliferate; it became apparent that an economic slowdown was underway. A number of key economic and financial indicators provided evidence of such slower growth and suggested that future growth could weaken. A brief summary of important elements of this evidence, for example, would include the following:

* Real GDP slowed from a robust 5.6 percent annualized growth rate in the second quarter of 2000 to 2.2 percent and 1.0 percent in the third and fourth quarters, respectively, before rebounding modestly to 1.2% in the first quarter of 2001.

* Key components of GDP such as real consumption expenditures slowed after mid-year as real income growth moderated, stock market values fell, employment gains lessened, and consumer confidence stalled and then deteriorated. Movements in retail sales generally corroborated these developments.

* Gross private investment also contributed significantly to this general slowdown with most key investment categories registering actual declines by the fourth quarter and advances of non-defense capital goods (ex-aircraft and parts) orders falling sharply after mid-year (on a year-over-year basis).

* The index of leading indicators trended down after January 2000.

* Employment advances slowed dramatically after mid-year. Gains in total non-farm payrolls, for example, averaged about 256,000 per month for the 2 1/2 years prior to mid-year 2000 and 44,000 per month after mid-year 2000. The average workweek also decreased after mid-year.

* The manufacturing sector also has weakened significantly since mid-year 2000. Industrial production, capacity utilization, the Natural Association of Purchasing Managers index, as well as manufacturing employment and workweek have all registered significant declines since mid-year 2000.

* Financial equity markets began to deteriorate about mid-year 2000 as well.

In short, there can be little doubt that a significant economic slowdown or retrenchment began about mid-year 2000 in the last quarters of the Clinton Administration.” (“Assessment Of The Current Economic Environment,” United States Congress Joint Economic Committee, 7/01)

Clinton’s Chairman Of Council Of Economic Advisors, Joseph Stiglitz, Said Recession Started During Clinton’s Tenure. “It would be nice for us veterans of the Clinton Administration if we could simply blame mismanagement by President George W. Bush’s economic team for this seemingly sudden turnaround in the economy, which coincided so closely with its taking charge. But … the economy was slipping into recession even before Bush took office, and the corporate scandals that are rocking America began much earlier.” (Joseph Stiglitz, “The Roaring Nineties,” The Atlantic Monthly, 10/02)

Stiglitz noted that during the Clinton Administration “the groundwork for some of the problems we are now experiencing was being laid. Accounting standards slipped; deregulation was taken further than it should have been; and corporate greed was pandered to ….” (Joseph Stiglitz, “The Roaring Nineties,” The Atlantic Monthly, 10/02)

Clinton Administration Grossly Overestimated Strength Of The Economy. “Hidden in the morass of statistics, there is proof that the Clinton administration grossly overestimated the strength of the economy leading up to the 2000 election. Did the federal government join Enron and WorldCom in cooking the books? … Most startling, the Commerce Department in 2000 showed the economy on an upswing through most of the election year, while in fact it was declining.” (Robert Novak, Op-Ed, “Sunny Clinton Forecast Leaves Cloud Over Bush,” Chicago Sun-Times, 8/8/02)

Drop In Investments In First Half Of 2000 Contributed To Recession. “A plunge in investment that began in the last half of 2000, along with the declines in equity markets, was an important force in the recession.” (Council Of Economic Advisers, “Strengthening America’s Economy: The President’s Jobs And Growth Proposals,” 1/7/03)

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1 posted on 03/08/2003 5:29:16 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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Still don't know why Bob Dole agreed to go on 60 Minutes with Clinton -- do you?
2 posted on 03/08/2003 5:30:29 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: PhiKapMom
I was reading through some press conferences and such the other day from 1998 I found on google.com/unclesam and came across some similar information regarding the economy from 1998. While things were looking ok there were worries being addressed back then about the bubble and some of the things they were planning on doing to address their concerns. If I dig it up again I will post the link.
3 posted on 03/08/2003 5:32:30 PM PST by chance33_98 (Government cannot give freedom, it can only take it.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Still don't know why Bob Dole agreed to go on 60 Minutes with Clinton -- do you?

To offset the cost of his Viagra maybe :)

4 posted on 03/08/2003 5:33:07 PM PST by chance33_98 (Government cannot give freedom, it can only take it.)
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To: PhiKapMom
He's already saying the first one didn't go very well.

We are doomed by our represenatives.
5 posted on 03/08/2003 5:33:33 PM PST by Howlin (Only UNamericans put the UN before America!)
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To: PhiKapMom
**Still don't know why Bob Dole agreed to go on 60 Minutes with Clinton -- do you?**

No and I'm likely not to even watch the show. Don't think my stomach, nervous system or mental health can take the double whammy of SlickWilly and CBS.

However I will read here and see what other FReepers think before deciding if I take my shoes off and jump into this one. Too many piles of troll poop to avoid in the media these days as it is.

Prairie
6 posted on 03/08/2003 5:34:34 PM PST by prairiebreeze ("We won't deny, ignore or pass our problems along to other Presidents" --GWBush)
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To: PhiKapMom
Still don't know why Bob Dole agreed to go on 60 Minutes with Clinton -- do you?

To learn new pick up lines?

7 posted on 03/08/2003 5:35:23 PM PST by b4its2late (If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Still don't know why Bob Dole agreed to go on 60 Minutes with Clinton -- do you?

I'm sorry, but between this, the viagra ads and the Pepsi commericial where he's ogling Britney Spears, Bob Dole has official become a media whore.

Next, he'll be the center square on Hollywood Squares.

8 posted on 03/08/2003 5:36:30 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ithaca is the City of Evil)
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To: PhiKapMom
Great post......Hopefully CNN/PBS/NBC/CBS/PMSNBC/NPR/ABC/NYT/WASHPOST/ etc will report the facts too - but on the other hand I think naaaa....facts are stubborn things for liberals.
9 posted on 03/08/2003 5:40:03 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: PhiKapMom
I like Bob Dole but he should have never agreed to this. He is the man who lost to Clinton, not the face of the current Republican party. Clinton, on the other hand, is the man who can't let go and continues to be the face of his party. Dole, unless he surprises me, is no match for Clinton.
10 posted on 03/08/2003 5:45:59 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: PhiKapMom
Still don't know why Bob Dole agreed to go on 60 Minutes with Clinton -- do you?

Maybe he is like Bubba: he'll do anything to keep his face and name in everyone's minds.

11 posted on 03/08/2003 5:48:25 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Just how was it that Dole was "selected" as Repub candidate against the "new JFK"? Was it simply his turn b/c he'd been around forever and would be his last shot. I still can't believe it.

Isn't his Senate retirement generous enough without the commercial spots?

12 posted on 03/08/2003 5:50:39 PM PST by banjo joe
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To: banjo joe
Perhaps, Dole was selected so that the Dims could have a big laugh at the Republicans. You know, pick someone who has to take a pill to get it up.
13 posted on 03/08/2003 5:52:22 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: PhiKapMom
Exactly as I suspected. The Reagan Economic expansion ran up until mid 2000, when the Clinton Recession began.
14 posted on 03/08/2003 5:59:04 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes
bump for later reading
15 posted on 03/08/2003 6:03:34 PM PST by RobFromGa (All Real Americans Support our Troops 100%)
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To: Paul Atreides
If it was up to Clinton he would have picked Reagan. The best man to put Clinton in his deserved place would have been Newt. It won't happen, CBS etal. have a goal to build up The Clinton Legacy.
16 posted on 03/08/2003 6:06:20 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Dolphy
. "Dole, unless he surprises me, is no match for Clinton."

Did you read the story put out by CBS on how he was
picked? I won't even put the link up, it's so
much BS!I will bet that Clinton had to agree who
was the counterpoint! This is a new low in ex
Presidents. Have you read the peanut farmers new
statements? A friend called and told me, you have to
register at the NYT's to read it. I will not!!
It is anti war, anti Bush, says he knows what a just
war is, and this isn't one!!!
17 posted on 03/08/2003 6:06:40 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Dolphy
. "Dole, unless he surprises me, is no match for Clinton."

Did you read the story put out by CBS on how he was
picked? I won't even put the link up, it's so
much BS!I will bet that Clinton had to agree who
was the counterpoint! This is a new low in ex
Presidents. Have you read the peanut farmers new
statements? A friend called and told me, you have to
register at the NYT's to read it. I will not!!
It is anti war, anti Bush, says he knows what a just
war is, and this isn't one!!!
18 posted on 03/08/2003 6:07:36 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: PhiKapMom
Bill Clinton made at least 35 million last year. He and his homely/frigid wife have always been about the money. When they said Bill Clinton did not care about money it was absurd!

It takes big bucks to get the stuff they want. Private jets, homes and the best of the best.

Clinton must keep his face on TV to be marketable. As far as Dole? Same basic reasons.

19 posted on 03/08/2003 6:11:35 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: PhiKapMom; All
Rush is planning to tape each of Clinton's responses and then pretend he is debating him. I sure wish by some miracle they had chosen Rush to face off with Clinton in the first place. It would have boosted the show ratings, but the execs weren't interested in someone who could actually introduce Clinton to the truth.
20 posted on 03/08/2003 6:16:13 PM PST by Faith
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To: woodyinscc
You are right, a new low for ex-presidents, but then that's Clinton's legacy, new lows.

I did hear about Carter's editorial that is to appear in the NY Times tomorrow. It fills me with so much anger. What is a just war? Shall we wait to see why Saddam is amassing weapons? Should we continue on the path of a decade old failed policy that punishes the people of Iraq while the tyrant has his way? Should we wait for the UN to call on us because Saddam has threatened a neighbor and place greater risks on our military? Should we roll the dice and see if a biological or chemical weapon finds its way to our shores?

What is just when facing a man with no sense of justice or value of human life? Jimmy Carter has no idea what the definition of just is if he can give a pass to the threats and human rights realities in Iraq.

21 posted on 03/08/2003 6:20:02 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: chance33_98
.....and the increasing cost of his drug habit..........
22 posted on 03/08/2003 6:22:38 PM PST by Liz
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To: PhiKapMom
The only good thing the government can do for the economy is to stay out of it. Clintoon owes the prosperity in the 90's to one, and one thing only: the inexpensive PC. He had the unbelievable good luck to ooze into the White House at the time a technological revolution was happening. A whole new sector of the economy was built while he was staining the capital. I could take about as much credit for the boom of the 90's as Billy Jeff can.
23 posted on 03/08/2003 6:31:04 PM PST by SoDak
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To: PhiKapMom
According to Bob Dole, the "debate" only lasts a minute or so. He was not too enthused about the first debate, saying that it is very difficult for Bill Clinton to say anything in 30 seconds. Like others, I could not physically, emotionally, or mentally endure watching Clinton on any show.

My advice--if you are going to watch it, do not blink, or you will miss it. And have the barf bag close by!
24 posted on 03/08/2003 6:33:00 PM PST by DennisR
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To: PhiKapMom
Heck ol' Bob ought to be up to it for about 45 seconds anyway.... then his viagra may let him down...... This was only a 10 week deal wasn't it? I doubt it'll be that big of an impact one way or the other... I suspect more bragging rights for CBS was their motive.... Money, exposure, face time and ego would be the motives for the other two imo.
25 posted on 03/08/2003 6:36:25 PM PST by deport
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To: PhiKapMom
Nope. Must been the visions of granduer and the senate wives club or something stupid like that. Doesn't he know he can't wrestle with snakes and come out looking great.
26 posted on 03/08/2003 6:38:24 PM PST by swheats (The final stage of diplomacy)
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To: PhiKapMom
I don't know either. I think perhaps he was flattered that someone would want to hire him to air his views in public. Sadly Bob doesn't realize that he is facilitating a man like Clinton airing his views in public. The same man who offered Bill and Hillary air time to rehab Bill after the Flower's affair became public, is now providing him another venue. Actually it's the same venue, Sixty Minutes.

I want to say the man's name is Hugh Hewitt, but then that's the name of the Conserative radio personality in Los Angeles. Perhaps someone will come along to correct me.

Dole served this nation honorably in the war. Over the years I think he lost his way. I don't think he means the nation ill, I just don't think he sees things clearly. Who in their right mind would possibly think it a good idea for the last man to hold the office of the Presidency, to become a media personality trashing the current President? Evidently Bob does. It is beyond my understanding to know exactly why he's adding legitimacy to the idea. He's the highest ranking Republican ex-office holder who in effect will be lending legitimacy to Sixty Minutes airing Clinton. If anyone challenges the idea, it will be mentioned that the highest ranking Republican ex-office holder is involved, and fine with it. Bob, Bob, Bob, what are you thinking?

We have a man who has been accused of so many sordid things. Rape, treason, obstruction of justice, bribery, receiving payments from the Chinese military... it goes on and on and on. Clinton has no morals at all. Even as a private citizen, with these problems surrounding the man, who would want to be a part of placing him on the air each week? Well Bob Dole would. Truly it is a sad day, and a blemish on Bob Dole that will go with him to his grave, that he has done this.

I lost all respect for Bob Dole during the government shut down. The media was saying that the White House was in talks on how to give in and restart the government. It was Friday. The story was the White House couldn't hold out for more than 48 more hours. In the face of this, the cards delt the end certain the victory ours, Bob Dole went on camera and said that the Republicans were going to give in. We couldn't hold the nation hostage. In that one instant he not only gave the Dems the high ground on this issue, he essentially slandered Newt Gingrich for all time. Bob Dole snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. I'll never forgive him for that. What could that man have been thinking?

Oh well. Bob is a lost cause. Clinton will mop the floor with him. Dole is not brash and informed enough to take Clinton to task. Dole hasn't had to argue a solid point in decades. His Presidential campaign was sad. Now this. Why can't Conservatives get it right? This is a fiasco on the fast track.

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28 posted on 03/08/2003 6:47:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Are you going Freeps Ahoy! Don't miss the boat. Er ship...)
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To: PhiKapMom
Freep 'em: 60m@cbsnews.com
29 posted on 03/08/2003 6:49:30 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("If you fear failure on your first attempt, don't take up skydiving." Ollie North)
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To: DoughtyOne
Don Hewitt, he is a genetic lefty, no chance
of an epiphany for him!!
30 posted on 03/08/2003 6:49:58 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: woodyinscc
Thanks, I appreciate you coming up with the correct name. Hugh is a good guy. Sorry to interject his name here.

Yes Don is a geneticly defective froot loop. He and the Director Thomason made Clinton. What's more they are proud of it, the job he did and the whole sordid mess means nothing to them.

31 posted on 03/08/2003 6:52:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Are you going Freeps Ahoy! Don't miss the boat. Er ship...)
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To: PhiKapMom
Good reference bump...
32 posted on 03/08/2003 6:52:52 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: PhiKapMom
These things (recessions) just happen,kind of like that DNA on the blue dress.
33 posted on 03/08/2003 6:56:02 PM PST by woofie
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To: DoughtyOne
You know, they even brag about it!!Like it was
a job well done. I knew when I watched that show
back in 92, that it was the biggest bunch of BS
I had ever seen, and the man and his wife were
phonies!!
34 posted on 03/08/2003 7:02:34 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: DoughtyOne
It shoulda been Newt.
35 posted on 03/08/2003 7:07:46 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: PhiKapMom
I wish I knew why CBS ever entertained the idea of having the impeached ex-president of the United States of America,
a man who arranged anti-American protests in Europe in 1968 while dodging the draft because he thought that he was just too good to serve in his country's military and proudly stated that he "loathed the military",
a man who is a perjurer and held in contempt of court,
a man who lost his law license and is barred from addressing the Supreme Court,
and a man who has a proven track record of despicable morals and has been accused of rape by Juanita Broderick,
as well as soliciting sex from Paula Jones,
and how can we forget how he enjoyed entertaining himself in the oval office with sink, cigar, and thonged intern.

After reading what I wrote, now I do wonder why an honorable man, Bob Dole would ever wish to sit next to that reprobate.

36 posted on 03/08/2003 7:15:10 PM PST by harpo11 (Who needs comedians when we've got leftists?)
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To: woodyinscc
Interesting site.
37 posted on 03/08/2003 7:17:41 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: PhiKapMom; AmishDude
Thanks for the post, PhiKapMom.

AmishDude is right. Newt would have given der shlickmeister better opposition.

38 posted on 03/08/2003 7:19:41 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: isthisnickcool
I do not have a tin hat, but I have felt that 60 min.
was used just as much as a front for their leftist causes,
as for good, honest journalism, and profit for CBS!


Thanks for the link!
39 posted on 03/08/2003 7:46:32 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Reagan Man; PhiKapMom
Newt would have given der shlickmeister better opposition.

Well, Rush would have been the best choice, but Newt would have have been good enough. Problem is that Slick wouldn't have agreed to either. And, make no mistake, this is nothing more than attempt to get Clinton on TV every week.

Look at it this way, this whole enterprise elevates Dole and diminishes Clinton.

40 posted on 03/08/2003 7:46:41 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: PhiKapMom
Don't think I could stomach watching the Sleezer & the Geezer!


41 posted on 03/08/2003 8:04:25 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04........Across America!)
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To: DennisR
I haven't watched 60 Minutes in years and I am not about to start now! This is one great reason NOT to watch them!
42 posted on 03/08/2003 8:11:56 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: Reagan Man
I agree -- Newt would have been much better. I won't ever watch anything with Clinton on. I was not a big supporter of Dole either! I held my nose and voted for him in 1996 is the best I can say!
43 posted on 03/08/2003 8:13:28 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: PhiKapMom
You mean he's actually going on TV to admit it's HIS RECESSION and not Bush's ...?? I really doubt that. This guy has never taken responsibility for anything.
44 posted on 03/08/2003 8:16:03 PM PST by CyberAnt ( -> -> -> Oswego!!)
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To: DoughtyOne; PhiKapMom
Thanks for the ping, PKM.

Who in their right mind would possibly think it a good idea for the last man to hold the office of the Presidency, to become a media personality trashing the current President? Evidently Bob does. It is beyond my understanding to know exactly why he's adding legitimacy to the idea.

To tell you the truth, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear Bob Dole siding with Clinton. The man has disappointed me in the past as well, sad to say.

45 posted on 03/08/2003 8:45:22 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Wouldn't surprise me either. I remember during the 2000 primaries that Dole donated to McCain and his wife was still in the race.

Maybe he doesn't like his wife being in the Senate either?

46 posted on 03/08/2003 8:58:57 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: PhiKapMom
Maybe he doesn't like his wife being in the Senate either?

LOL, you could be right.

47 posted on 03/08/2003 9:03:35 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: DoughtyOne
Yup. Precisely.
48 posted on 03/08/2003 9:11:41 PM PST by sauropod (If the women can't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy...)
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To: woodyinscc
Yep. Clinton was a real piece of work. The man betrayed his wife countless times. Once? Twice perhaps? This man couldn't keep his pants on if he was walking through Poison Ivy. I was astounded to find that a majority of voters found that excellent credentials for trusting him with the highest office in the land. And sure enough, he lived down to my expectations.
49 posted on 03/08/2003 9:50:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Are you going Freeps Ahoy! Don't miss the boat. Er ship...)
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To: AmishDude
I agree. Newt would hand him his lunch! Couldn't have that could we.
50 posted on 03/08/2003 9:50:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Are you going Freeps Ahoy! Don't miss the boat. Er ship...)
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