New Zealand terror threat no hoax

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[FairOpinion]

Police in New Zealand say they are taking seriously, a letter to a newspaper containing a terrorist threat for citizens in two main cities.

The letter threatens to poison water pipes with cyanide in Auckland and Wellington.

Cinemas are also warned of the possible use of explosives or gas.

New Zealand's counter-terrorism chief, Assistant Commissioner Jon White, says the letter sent to the New Zealand Herald last Tuesday cannot be discounted as a hoax.

He says while the security alert in New Zealand remains low, the public should remain vigilant and report anything suspicious.

[FairOpinion]

More terror threat. It is serious, they listed it in their Breaking News.

[blam]

Why would the terrorists warn?

[patriciaruth]

Aside from the ubiquity of insanity, why would anyone be targeting New Zealand?

[FairOpinion]

"Why would the terrorists warn?"
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To enhance the terror, of course.

Apparently the NZ police checked it out and think it's NOT a hoax.

[FairOpinion]

Why would anybody target Bali?

Same idea. Soft targets.

[null and void]

PING!

[potlatch]

Prayers for all of you over there, take care.

[TrappedInLiberalHell]

Aside from the ubiquity of insanity, why would anyone be targeting New Zealand?

I'm not sure -- aren't they by and large against the war? My wife is Australian, and she tells me that New Zealand doesn't have much of a military to speak of. I think they're part of the ANZUS treaty (like NATO, I gather), with the US and Australia. So maybe by attacking NZ, they're attacking us.

[Rain-maker]

Only threat is reading the letter and taking seriously.

I.E.

Dear NZ police, I poison your water. Please arrest me. I'm a kook and need meds.

[joonbug]

Scary stuff. Everyone says how safe it is here, but not mentioned are the kids whose faces have been torn off by pit bulls, women who have had their arms cut off by swords, and now this terror stuff. I thought I left all of that behind in Detroit when we moved here!

[TrappedInLiberalHell]

In case anyone is interested, here is a PDF of the ANZUS treaty, signed in 1951.

[FairOpinion]

Well, Al Qaeda keeps coming out with a threat before they actually try an attack, so who knows.

I would give it a 50-50 chance of this being real vs. a hoax, except for the way the article is phrased and the statements quoted, where they seemed to have anticipated and discarded (presumably for good reason) the idea that it's just a hoax:

"New Zealand's counter-terrorism chief, Assistant Commissioner Jon White, says the letter sent to the New Zealand Herald last Tuesday cannot be discounted as a hoax. "

[FairOpinion]

Looks like you are in Auckland.

I just happened to come across this.

If you learn any more, please keep us posted. Your local press may have more detail.

[Rain-maker]

 Today In New Zealand News

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Public Health Warnings Repeated
10/03/2003 04:42 PM
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Public health officials are repeating warnings to the public to be careful about the food and water they consume.

A letter sent to the New Zealand Herald newspaper warns of cyanide in home and motel water supplies, explosives and gas in cinemas.

 Audio and Video

Preparations following further threats - 10/03/2003 11:52 AM - Assistant Commissioner Jon White talks to Paul Holmes about the preparations being made following the latest threats from the cyanide threat letter writer.

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Police have linked the threat to earlier letters sent to the US embassy and Australian and British high commissions.

Deputy director general of public health Dr Don Matheson says people should be aware of the taste of what they are eating or drinking.

He says cyanide has an almond flavour and would cause a burning sensation in the mouth.

[Rain-maker]

NZ police warn of terror threats
From correspondents in Auckland
10mar03

CITIZENS in New Zealand's two main cities have been warned terrorist threats to water supplies and cinemas outlined in a letter to a newspaper last week were being taken seriously by police.

Counter terrorism Chief Assistant Commissioner Jon White said the letter referred to a demonstration of capability in Auckland and Wellington at noon on March 28, the New Zealand Herald reported today.

He said the letter sent to the New Zealand Herald last Tuesday could not be discounted as a hoax.

The security alert in New Zealand remained low, but police asked the public to remain vigilant and report suspicious activity.

White said the letter contained a number of threats, including attacking American, British and Australian interests in New Zealand, a cyanide threat to residential and motel water supplies through a tap, explosive capability and the possible use of gas in a cinema.

The letter had similar characteristics to letters sent to the United States Embassy, the British and Australian High Commissions and the Herald late last month.

"This suggests that it could have been written by the same author or someone known to earlier authors," White said.

The latest letter also had similar characteristics to one sent to the US Embassy last year when Tiger Woods was playing in the New Zealand Golf Open in Wellington.

The letter to the British High Commission last month and the one relating to Woods both contained cyanide.

White said relevant government agencies had been working to assess the latest letter in consultation with overseas experts and enforcement agencies.

Cinemas would take steps such as monitoring what people took in, being vigilant about suspicious packages and looking at evacuation procedures.

White said public health specialists had advised that introducing cyanide into a motel or home water supply through a tap would be technically difficult.

Cyanide is a deadly poison widely used in New Zealand for killing possums and making jewellery. If digested or inhaled it can cause serious breathing problems, and death.

Meanwhile mail centres in Palmerston North, north of Wellington, were on alert today after a man called earlier claiming he had sent cyanide to a financial institution in the city.

[chance33_98]

Why would the terrorists warn?

The sociology and psychology of terrorism: Who becomes a terrorist and why? (A must read)

[Rain-maker]

New Zealand police criticise US embassy over release of hoax terror letter

By John Braddock
3 March 2003

New Zealand police last week asked staff at the US embassy in Wellington to explain how a letter making a terror threat against the America’s Cup yacht race in Auckland was obtained by the CNN television network despite requirements that it be kept confidential. CNN broadcast details of the letter soon after authorities revealed its existence on February 25. The release of the transcript by CNN forced the police to publicly confirm the letter’s contents.

Identical letters containing white powder were sent to the US Ambassador, the Australian and British High Commissioners and the New Zealand Herald newspaper. They were intercepted at the Auckland central mail exchange on February 21 before reaching their destinations. The powder in the letter to the British High Commissioner tested positive as cyanide. Police complained that the release of the letter compromised their investigation because few besides the author would have known the details.

A US embassy spokeswoman told the Herald that the letter had been obtained by the American media “inadvertently” and the mission “regretted” the incident. “It was a mistake. We have conferred with Washington to help ensure that this sort of thing doesn’t happen again,” she said. Police counter-terrorism chief, Assistant Commissioner Jon White, said CNN had told his officers the letter’s text was taken from a website where it had been posted by the US State Department’s Overseas Security Advisory Council. The council is set up to share security-related information between the US government and American firms working abroad. He confirmed the information had been sourced from the Wellington embassy.

The letters were purportedly from a group called “September 11”, claiming it had stockpiled 25kg of cyanide. Challenging the “great satan America”, the group said it would “resist its imperialist ambitions in the Islamic world”. It warned that the group would “fight jihad” by attacking American interests with whatever weapons it had. Australia and Britain were implicated for their foreign policies. The sender also claimed responsibility for a similar letter posted to the US embassy prior to last year’s New Zealand Golf Open at which US golfer Tiger Woods was playing. The writer claimed to have succeeded in closing the Israeli embassy as a result of the earlier threats.

The police maintained they had wanted to keep the letters out of the public domain for fear they might spark false admissions, or “copycat” letters. It appears, however, that the authorities quickly concluded that the letters were a hoax. But it suited their purposes to keep them under wraps while public warnings over unspecified terrorist threats were relayed through the media. Four days after their discovery the existence of the letters was publicly revealed, along with the presence of cyanide—but not their actual contents. Police and health officials released statements advising the public to be “vigilant” around public transport and when eating food prepared and packaged by others. They cautioned America’s Cup spectators and participants to look out for anything “out of the ordinary”, while armed members of the police Special Tactics Group were put on patrol at the Viaduct Harbour yacht base.

The deputy director of public health advised: “[M]ake sure that when you’re eating food, say in a restaurant or public place, that it hasn’t been contaminated, so in other words that the package isn’t ripped, that it hasn’t been sitting out for somebody to add something to it.” Playing down the fact that, unlike anthrax, cyanide is readily available for industrial, farming and other purposes and is not dangerous unless ingested, the media took to the issue with relish, saying it demonstrated that New Zealand was “not immune” from terrorist threats. One television current affairs program made the dire assertion that 25 kilograms of cyanide was sufficient to kill “a quarter of the country’s population”.

Once the letters’ actual contents became known, it was soon confirmed that they were almost certainly a hoax. Experts concluded that, far from originating from a terrorist cell, they were probably from someone pretending to be a foreigner to disguise his or her identity, or to create a provocation against the Muslim community. Dr Laurie Bauer, a linguist at Victoria University, said the letter contained many poor attempts at grammatical errors to fool readers, and mistakes that would not have been made by an Arabic speaker who had limited English skills. “It sounds to me as if it’s really an English speaker who’s writing this and hoping that by missing out the word ’the’ occasionally we’ll all be fooled into thinking it’s someone who can’t write English,” he said.

Auckland University lecturer Tim Behrend told the Herald that the letters seemed “very transparent and like an incredibly bad effort... They don’t appear to have been written by a non-native speaker of English or someone who is accustomed to being around non-native English speakers. What I see here is someone who is mimicking a foreign voice.” Behrend said the content was also unconvincing. There was no reason to target the America’s Cup, with Swiss and New Zealand teams competing but no Americans. It was unlikely the writer had a real political agenda—it seemed to be simply “mischievous”.

A number of Muslim leaders who spoke to the Herald—all of whom wanted to remain anonymous—doubted the writer was part of a group fighting for the rights of Islamic people because of a number of fundamental errors. Chief among them was the signature, “Abd Allah September 11”. “Abd” in Arabic means servant and “Allah” God, but the way this had been written was incorrect. As a phrase the two words are meaningless, and it could not be a name because Muslims cannot take the name “Allah”.

Nevertheless, both the government and the media seized on the hoax to whip up an atmosphere of uncertainty and anxiety. Against this backdrop, Prime Minister Helen Clark announced last Friday that unprecedented security precautions would be put in place for the forthcoming visit of Australian Prime Minister John Howard. Howard is due to arrive in New Zealand on March 8, fresh from discussions at the White House over preparations for the coming war with Iraq. According to local protest groups, he is likely to meet the most “intense” demonstrations ever mounted against a visiting Australian Prime Minister. Clark has warned of stringent security measures to prevent the disruption of official activities or the threat of Howard being personally “assaulted”.

[kcvl]

Monday, March 10, 2003. 16:11:33 (AEDT).

PM defends linking Iraq with 'war on terror'
Prime Minister John Howard rejects claims he is playing on the emotions of Australians by bringing up the memory of the victims of the Bali bomb attack in the context of any war against Iraq.

Mr Howard is in New Zealand on the final day of a three-day visit.

He says this will be a very difficult week for the world as the United Nations Security Council decides what to do about Iraq.

Last night, Mr Howard asked Australians to remember the those who were killed in Bali if Australia commits troops to a war against iraq.

He says he is not alleging Iraq was responsible for the bomb attacks but says disarming the rogue state is part of the wider war against terrorism, citing Iraq's past and continuing assistance to terrorist organsiasions.

Mr Howard is also concerned if chemical and biological weapons got into the hands of terrorists he says there could be much more horrific outcomes than occurred in Bali.

Opposition leader Simon Crean says Mr Howard 's comments are insensitive.

He says Mr Howard is trying to justify a war with Iraq.

"It's insensitive to those still grieving from the Bali bombings and it's wrong, because no evidence has been produced that links the Bali bombings to Iraq," Mr Crean said.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Why would anybody target Bali?

Agreed. Same as why they slit the throats of defenseless people, blast children to pieces, etc. They are both evil cowards and sub-human monsters. There will come a time when they all will be dead, rotting, and forgotten.

To them: Hey vermin. Come my way. I got something for ya. Fast or slow, it doesn't matter to me.

[FairOpinion]

Thanks for the additional detail.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Why would anybody target Bali?

Agreed. Same as why they slit the throats of defenseless people, blast children to pieces, etc. They are both evil cowards and sub-human monsters. There will come a time when they all will be dead, rotting, and forgotten.

To them: Hey vermin. Come my way. I got something for ya. Fast or slow, it doesn't matter to me.

[MHGinTN]

Sounds like Crean would make an excellent Democrat Senator! [One of Osama's stated objectives is to bring the world into a war with Islam. New Zealand nor any other nation is immune if these feindish murderers will bomb westerners in a predominantly Moslem nation. Think about it! World-wide chaos and mayhem is their objective, and that makes the suicidal obstructionism of the French government all the more astonishing, given the growing Moselm population count in Europe. The French are committing suicide 'in abstentia'.]

[Squantos]

New Zealand goes to Code Bert !

Stay Safe Blam.....:o)

[Rain-maker]

ROFLOL..haven't seen that one yet, funny.

[Tamzee]

This is the MOST I've laughed in ages..... THANK YOU :-)

[Squantos]

Ya'll are quiet welcome..... I know this is serious business but some times ya have to smile. Go here for some more smiles .....a site I found and have been surfing. Seems pretty kewl.....so far at least.

http://www.idiotarian.com/idioblog/idiotbloghome.php


Stay Safe !

[Squantos]

Bert alert .... # 23 .... :o)

Stay Safe !

[photogirl]

I just checked out the site you linked, most of it is strange, but I found one thing that made me laugh so hard my eyes watered. So here it is:

The Canadian Government has decided to assist the USA in the war against terrorism:

The Canadians have agreed to send:
- 2 of their largest battle ships
- 6,000 ground troops
- 6 fighter jets

When the exchange rate is applied, the USA will receive:
- 1 canoe
- 2 mounties
- 12 flying squirrels

I have nothing against Canada, I just thought it was funny.

[Bogey78O]

New Zealand needs to change it's foreign policy.

[Squantos]

Oh yeah there are lots of laughs over there.....now I know where to surf when FR is down for maintenance......:o)

Stay Safe ....Glad ya liked it !

[bonesmccoy]

[Squantos]

Stay Safe !!

[Terridan]

He says while the security alert in New Zealand remains low, the public should remain vigilant and report anything suspicious.

I wonder if the New Zealanders are prohibited from racial profiling, cuz we wouldn't want them to VIOLATE ANY OF THESE B*STARDS CIVIL RIGHTS NOW WOULD WE??? ;)
Best wishes.

[PoisedWoman]

Bump to you. Haven't seen you lately, hope all is well.

[katana]

I love New Zealand, but the country has become a socialist breeding ground. They are soft and don't seem to realize that being a larely white, Christian (even tokenly so), and culturally western nation makes them subject to the same genocide or conversion choice that Islam is planning for the rest of us.

They resemble Canadians in that having someone else care for their security for the past twenty years has made them lazy, complacent, and ungrateful to those who have been covering their backs all this time.

[AMNZ]

1. Terrorists' primary objective it to terrorize as widely as they can. They need head count to insure that everyone knows they can do it. Nobody is exempt.

2. New Zealand Kiwi's have a very small military, huge flocks of sheep, and great white wine.

3. You won't see much about it, but they are excellent in intelligence. I believe they are making significant contributions, but you won't hear about it.

[4Freedom]

"..., women who have had their arms cut off by swords, ..."

Obviously, men have the same reaction to women grabbing the remote control the whole world over. ;^)

[Renfield]

ANZUS doesn't exist anymore. It dissolved when the Kiwis told the U.S. we couldn't have nuclear armed or powered ships dock at their ports anymore. And no, they don't have much of an army; hardly even any police. Very little crime; most of it is property crime (theft, vandalism) committed by Maoris or immigrants. We went there a year ago, and except for its looney-left national government, it's a paradise on earth. And by the way, the city water supply of Auckland has absolutely the best water I've ever tasted; better than any bottled water, better than spring water in the Smoky Mountains. New Zealand is heavily forested and has virtually no pollution, so they just collect the rainfall running off the mountains, and pipe it into town with minimal treatment.

[Terriergal]

Man I wish shaggy eel would get his home internet access set up already!

[xp38]

Shouldn't code Bert be the highest level? Somehow code Elmo doesn't do it for me.

[EternalHope]

New Zealand is against war with Iraq.

Guess you can run (they did), but you can't hide (didn't work).

[stanz]

Be very careful.

[joonbug]

The socialistist trend is true. Fewer and fewer people working to support more and more people on the dole, while the infrastructure of transportation, education and health care borders on third world quality. It's a shame as the people are wonderful and the country beautiful, but potentially tough times ahead.

[Squantos]

I believe it's Elmo's shrill like vocals that are analogious of an air raid siren that got him the job. But I could be wrong. I'd have went with the psyco drummer (name ?) for the top spot myself.

Stay Safe !!

[xp38]

I think that character was Animal from the Muppet Show. Clearly the Muppet code terror threat level meter needs some thought.

[Denver Ditdat]

Remember the Kiwi woman who offered to let President Bush nail her to a cross in hopes that her "sacrifice" would stave off a war? Perhaps she needs to make the same offer to those who would commit acts of terror in her own country.

Of course, the terrorists would be happy to take her up on that one, so she'll never do it.

[katana]

We would appreciate your help but if it doesn't come, so be it. Even if it was only the UK and us going into this, or even if it was ourselves alone, it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference. But the fact is a few dozen countries are assisting and supporting us in this effort. If New Zealand opts out, fine. It is not as if you're needed.

I doubt many in your country understand this, but we are not about to start a war, we have been at war for a year and a half now and we are going to do what we think best for our own long term safety and security.

Now, regarding my memory, it's quite long, thank you, and having made regular visits to New Zealand over more than twenty years, I have nothing but genuine regard for your country and its people. But during a recent visit I had the chance to listen to Mrs. Clarke and read the papers in Auckland (I was there a few weeks ago). It struck me that your country has moved noticably to the left.

While I have to admit that your Prime Minister Lange in the 80's was worse, and that Mrs. Clarke is less overt (maybe she's pursuing a Kiwi version of the "third way"), but I got the strong feeling that New Zealand has caught the Canadian disease, that is a nearly complete disregard for your own security and safety, and that no matter how much we are cursed and despised by your government and press, a big brother in the form of the Australians or we will always come through to save you.

I hope you're right that New Zealand will continue to punch above its weight class and I may have been a bit harsh in what I wrote. If so, I apologise. But I honestly see parallels between your current government's attitude and that of the government in Canada.

[gungadin]

I love New Zealand, but the country has become a socialist breeding ground

Only as long as the current Labour Government remains in power. Seems that the US had the same problem for 8 years back in the 90's.

They resemble Canadians in that having someone else care for their security for the past twenty years has made them lazy, complacent, and ungrateful to those who have been covering their backs all this time.

Uh, don't think so. Lazy?- speak for yourself. New Zealand has supplied troops and peacekeepers around the world, helping to cover others backs. Australia has been a prime recipient of New Zealand help by rotating troops through East Timor, suffering one combat casualty in the process. Australia was very concerned about Indonesia's intentions at the time. NZ shared that concern, helping to cover off Australia's Northern border for three years. New Zealand's permanent combat aircraft detachment at Nowra in Australia (before decommission) assisted with Australian forces training. Throw in all the World wars, numerous regional conflicts, and I'd say New Zealand has historically more than pulled its own weight. New Zealand is the most remote country in the world, so a degree of feeling safe, compared with most other parts of the world, goes with the territory. No nations on its borders either.

Fewer and fewer people working to support more and more people on the dole..

Don't think so. New Zealand's unemployment rate is lower than that of the USA.

while the infrastructure of transportation, education and health care borders on third world quality

Take the blinkers off.

The "Program for International Student Assessment" (PISA) was commissioned by the OECD in 2000 to assess 15yr old students in 32 countries, 28 of them members of OECD.

- New Zealand has the third highest mean score for reading literacy- beaten out by only Finland and Canada (and actual highest proportion at the top level)

- New Zealand has the third highest mean score for mathematical literacy (beaten out by only Japan and Korea)

- New Zealand has the sixth highest mean score for scientific literacy, the USA fourteenth.

Australia and the USA are consistently below NZ in the rankings, the USA woefully so.

Don't let emotion get in the way of the facts.

Some Skyhawk nostalgia, for anyone interested.