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White House Blasts Moran, Democrats' Silence
GOPUSA ^ | March 12, 2003 | Jeff Gannon

Posted on 03/12/2003 7:06:58 AM PST by Columbine

WASHINGTON (GOPUSA News) -- For the second day in a row, the White House had harsh criticism for a Democrat Congressman's offensive remarks. On Tuesday, Spokesman Ari Fleischer condemned Rep. Jim Moran, Jr. (D-VA) who told a community group that the push for war with Iraq was strongly influenced by American Jews.

"If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq we would not be doing this," Moran said. "The leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going and I think they should."

Fleischer said, "Those remarks are shocking. Those remarks are wrong. Those remarks are inappropriate. And those are remarks that should not have been said."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: antisemitic; democrats; jamespmoran; jamespmoranjr; jewish; moran; war
This is much worse than Trent Lott's comments.

Why aren't Republicans calling for his resignation?

1 posted on 03/12/2003 7:06:58 AM PST by Columbine
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To: Columbine
because it makes the silence coming from the Democratic camp all the more deafening.... double standard....
2 posted on 03/12/2003 7:08:14 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
First Hispanic Vote Now the Jewish Vote thanxs Democrats
3 posted on 03/12/2003 7:09:44 AM PST by scooby321
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To: Columbine
They are. Everyone is calling for him to resign, and Nancy Pelosi and Moran both say his apology would suffice.

I disagree. I think he needs to be thrown out.
4 posted on 03/12/2003 7:11:19 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: mabelkitty
Can't Jim Moran simply be demoted, like Trent Lott was? Like maybe to coat check clerk in the Democratic caucus room of the House of Representatives?

He certainly deserves no important House committee assignments.

Odd, that Jim Traficant could be read out of the Democrat party (and sent to jail), but Jim Moran cannot.
5 posted on 03/12/2003 7:24:10 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: Columbine
I have no use for Moran whatsoever but what was offensive about what he said? Is the word 'Jewish' a bad word? Should people not say 'Jewish' anymore? What word should they use? Semite American?
6 posted on 03/12/2003 7:27:34 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
it wasn't the terminology he used, it was the fact that he was asserting that the American Jewish community determines US foreign policy. that is offensive and clearly erroneous. unless you are of a mind with Pat Buchanan.
7 posted on 03/12/2003 7:30:55 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Columbine
It's been obvious for some time that the "anti-war" sentiment on both the left and right (Buchanon) is heavily steeped in anti-semitism. Let an "anti-war" personage speak long enough and eventually they will get, by way of Palestine and then Sharon, to how they think that American Jews--they will spit out the name Wolfowitz--are in cootrol of U.S. policy.

The Dems don't condemn anti-semitism because they think that it politically advantageous to exploit anti-semitism.


8 posted on 03/12/2003 7:32:53 AM PST by Poincare ((not a good time for a Frenchish screen name))
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To: alloysteel
Odd, that Jim Traficant could be read out of the Democrat party (and sent to jail), but Jim Moran cannot.

The drunken wifebeater casts the "correct" vote for Speaker of the House.

9 posted on 03/12/2003 7:33:24 AM PST by Coop
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To: Columbine
Democ-rats = Hypocrites
10 posted on 03/12/2003 7:35:03 AM PST by DoctorMichael ("I don't wanna live in a 21st century Caliphate" ~DocMichael)
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To: xsmommy
Not to mention that it is a patent lie. The vast majority of Jews are anti-war.
11 posted on 03/12/2003 7:35:42 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: Columbine
I suppose we have to face facts. Despite the Holocaust and a 1,000-year history of virulent world anti-semitism, Judaism somehow has retrograded into the same categories of anti-Italian, Irish, Polish, Asian, etc. minibiases--and is now one of the "minor faux pas". Jews are after all "white people" and therefore fall in the unfortunate category of the despised white majority. Unfortunately, African-American issues, fanned by likes of race hustlers like Sharpton and Jackson, will never abade. Misegenation is probably the only answer.
12 posted on 03/12/2003 7:35:48 AM PST by meandog
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To: Columbine
Look, The democrats will even retain a man so vile as to taint and corrupt the young in this nation, teaching them to use his sexual techniques. Disgust hardly defines my feelings for the democrats propping up one more of their elected regardless of merit. This is the height of hyporicracy.
13 posted on 03/12/2003 7:43:28 AM PST by yoe
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To: Brad Cloven
excellent point, that is very true!
14 posted on 03/12/2003 7:44:02 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Columbine
I think he's an idiot and I feel obliged to say that I am a strong supporter of the nation of Israel, however, I don't think Moran should be required to resign for his remarks.
15 posted on 03/12/2003 7:44:25 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Columbine
This is old old news. The media is finally catching up with Moran. He has been saying stuff and doing stuff like this for a long time. He has a long history of anti- Israel rhetoric and policies. His campaign contributors are primarily Saudi and Pakistani. He even refers to the "temple mount" by the arab name. On Sept 11, his comment on the house floor was that we should protect the muslim population in the U.S.--that was his first response to the tragedy. See MorAntics.va8gop.org
16 posted on 03/12/2003 7:49:07 AM PST by RecallJeffords
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To: jwalsh07
You may have a point.

If the majority of his constituents are also anti-Semites then he is representing them as they elected him to do.

Hopefully that isn't the case.
17 posted on 03/12/2003 7:49:50 AM PST by Columbine
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To: xsmommy
it wasn't the terminology he used, it was the fact that he was asserting that the American Jewish community determines US foreign policy. that is offensive and clearly erroneous. unless you are of a mind with Pat Buchanan.

Hmmmm... I wonder what business the Jewish and pro-Israel lobbies are into? Aren't they paid to steer U.S. foreign and domestic policy in a way that's advantageous to the 'Jewish community' or the state of Israel?

And, he never said 'determine policy', he probably implied 'influence policy', which happens to be the case.

He has nothing to apoligize for and, if he did, he is probably as big a cowardly idiot as Lott was after his joke-telling 'indiscretion'.

18 posted on 03/12/2003 7:50:20 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
of course that is what lobbyists do. Moran implied a but/for relationship which is erroneous and offensive. and as BradCloven pointed out, has no bearing on reality, since the percentage of Jews supporting the war is MUCH LESS than that of the general populace.
19 posted on 03/12/2003 7:54:31 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
You didn't hear the whole statement. Believe me he sounded like a Nazi (or a Frenchman, or maybe an IRA member) talking about the Jews controlling the government and influencing policy.
20 posted on 03/12/2003 7:56:02 AM PST by Eva
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To: Columbine
If the majority of his constituents are also anti-Semites then he is representing them as they elected him to do

Even if this is true the man faces a battle during his next campaign. Case in point - Cynthia McKinney and her dad Billy. Both lost election primaries last year. They had a nationwide Jewish movement to oust her. She is still crying today about the Jewish conspiracy against her and her father. It was wonderful to witness
21 posted on 03/12/2003 8:02:56 AM PST by Republican Red
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To: Columbine
Why aren't Republicans calling for his resignation? 1 posted on 03/12/2003 7:06 AM PST by Columbine [

DITTO !!!

22 posted on 03/12/2003 8:03:56 AM PST by timestax
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To: Republican Red
That's the way it should be.
23 posted on 03/12/2003 8:04:18 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Brad Cloven
Not to mention that it is a patent lie. The vast majority of Jews are anti-war.

Watch it, you may be asked to resign your posting privileges. This is a false statement. Polls show that the Jewish community feels the same way as all Americans, more for the war than against.

24 posted on 03/12/2003 8:08:24 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: xsmommy; Eva
This is gonna cause big problems for the Dems, but not in the way most folks think....several months ago I opined here, when Sharpton announced his candidcay, that the issue of black anti-Semitism would prove to be a real pain for the Dems.....they've managed to tiptoe around it, just look at the primary defeats of McKinney and Hillard....but it's gonna get worse....Moran will get lots of pressure, but he's probably OK in his district, and you're gonna start to see the Black Caucus support him...it's tailor made for them, because it makes it look like it's NOT a racial issue....this will further fragment the Jewish vote, and the financial support, from the Dems.....there are several districts, and states, where a few % points can make the difference, and if the Jewish vote migrates to the GOP, well..
25 posted on 03/12/2003 8:25:48 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Columbine
Democrats are racist and worthless and not even human!
26 posted on 03/12/2003 8:29:36 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
I have no use for Moran whatsoever but what was offensive about what he said?

He thinks it's the Jew's fault we're going to war.

27 posted on 03/12/2003 8:30:02 AM PST by ez (Advise and Consent = Debate and VOTE!!)
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To: ken5050
but he's probably OK in his district

unfortunately, this is true. he is one district over from me. i cannot imagine how he continues to be elected despite all of his scandals; wifebeating, smacking some 8 yo kid, taking some borderline illegal loan, but then Falls Church and the environs is exceptionally liberal.

28 posted on 03/12/2003 8:30:10 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Columbine
The Democrats aren't as afraid of their Jewish constituents as they are of their African-American constituents. That's the deal.
29 posted on 03/12/2003 8:32:23 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Columbine
What was said was called a White House "blast"? A rather bombastic word for such measured rhetoric.

Think back to Lott and then reguage, please. A blast would have required courage.

30 posted on 03/12/2003 8:36:49 AM PST by Spirited
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To: Coop
Interesting comparison - Traficant was certainly not considered a friend of Israel either. You may remember his virulent defense of the Cleveland autoworker John Demjanjuk, who was accused of being the Nazi death camp guard Ivan the Terrible by Israel.

That being said, the double standard between the two is still obvious, as to your point about voting for Hastert.

31 posted on 03/12/2003 8:40:21 AM PST by Ogie Oglethorpe
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To: Spirited
Dump Congressman Jim Moran (D-VA) Petition

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Moran/petition.html
32 posted on 03/12/2003 9:37:23 AM PST by chambley1
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To: yoe
And here's how they do it: NOBODY VOTES in Moran's district, particularly not in the very armpit known as Arlington:

ARLINGTON, Va. - Democrat Walter Tejada became the first Hispanic elected to the Arlington County Board when he defeated three-time Republican candidate Mike Clancy 55 percent to 45 percent in a special election.

He will fill the term of the late County Board Chairman Charles Monroe, who died of an aneurysm just a few weeks after taking over as chairman in January.

Almost 22,000 of Arlington's 118,000 registered voters went to the polls Tuesday.

Tejada, 45, is a business consultant who lives in the Dominion Hills community.

He tells WTOP his priorities will be fiscal responsibility, a balanced budget and more flexibility from Richmond.

After the results are certified by county elections officials, Tejada will be sworn in and will officially attend his first County Board meeting on Saturday.

(Copyright 2003 by WTOP and The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

33 posted on 03/12/2003 11:20:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Eva; A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Right. These are the kinds of things the Nazis have said for years. If Republican say these things about Gays or Blacks or Jews or name your politically protected class...no matter how true we are crucified for it. The double standard is what gets me.
34 posted on 03/12/2003 11:26:35 AM PST by Ga Rob ("Consensus is the ABSENCE of Leadership" The Iron Lady)
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
For the last 2000 and something years, the Jews have been blamed for everything that goes wrong in the world. The Great Depression: Caused by Jewish bankers; Problems in the Middle East: Caused by greedy land grabbing Jews; Poverty in third-world countries: Caused by the Jews who contol the World Bank; Slavery: Caused by Jewish merchants; Holocust: Fabricated by Jews to gain sympathy and a home land; Hurricanes and earthquakes: Blame the Jews. I can't think of anything more Anti-Semetic than to blame the Jews for pushing the US of A to war against a mass murderer.
35 posted on 03/12/2003 11:33:22 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Brad Cloven
Actually, that's not true-- I've read stuff that indicates that Jewish sentiment on the war lines up pretty closely with the sentiments of the population as a whole.
36 posted on 03/12/2003 11:59:28 AM PST by walden
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
With those views, please don't ever vote Republican again. We neither need or want your support.
37 posted on 03/12/2003 12:03:21 PM PST by walden
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To: jwalsh07
"Polls show that the Jewish community feels the same way as all Americans, more for the war than against."

Wow! Not in my experience, but my experience may not be representative.

If you have a source poll, I would be curious to see it. And, I hope that you are right. My co-religionists need to wake up and smell the anti-Americanism.

38 posted on 03/12/2003 12:06:22 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
"I wonder what business the Jewish and pro-Israel lobbies are into? Aren't they paid to steer U.S. foreign and domestic policy in a way that's advantageous to the 'Jewish community' or the state of Israel?"

A: Primarily the support of leftism. When that coincides with Israel's right to exist they also support Israel. But blanket support of Israel is secondary. If they had to sell out Zion in order to implement socialism, I'm pretty sure they'd go for socialism.

Of course I may be biased. While my BUSH bumper-stickered car was parked in the secure lot at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle, nails were punched in my car tires five days in a row.

39 posted on 03/12/2003 12:12:08 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: Brad Cloven
I have been enlightened by a fellow poster. My experience in the Jewish Community of Seattle was that Jews were vastly against war of any sort. A poll has proved me wrong. See below:

Most U.S. Jews support war against Iraq, poll shows
NEW YORK (JTA) -- A majority of American Jews -- 59 percent -- approve of launching a military strike against Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein from power and support President Bush's handling of the war on terrorism.

Those were among the results of the American Jewish Committee's Annual Survey of American Jewish Opinion. The AJCommittee poll of 1,008 Jews nationwide was conducted by phone between Dec. 16 and Jan. 5 and carried a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percent.

Despite support for Bush's war on terror, 48 percent of Jews said they're Democrats, 18 percent Republicans and 32 percent independent. Asked about their political views, 37 percent ranged from extremely to slightly liberal; 34 percent were moderate; and 29 percent ranged from extremely to slightly conservative.

40 posted on 03/12/2003 2:37:19 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: muggs
He must resign!
41 posted on 03/19/2003 12:34:14 AM PST by timestax
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To: xsmommy
because it makes the silence coming from the Democratic camp all the more deafening.... double standard.... 2 posted on 03/12/2003 7:08 AM PST by xsmommy [

DITTO! on the double standard for the demoncRATS!

42 posted on 03/20/2003 8:40:16 PM PST by timestax
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