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IMPEACHMENT ACTIONS AGAINST THE PRESIDENT BY John Conyers (D-Mich.)& Ramsey Clark

Posted on 03/13/2003 11:23:41 AM PST by mandingo republican

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To: Callahan
Somebody needs to remind these poor deluded souls that impeaching Bush would put Dick Cheney in charge. And he has even less sympathy for left-wing mental patients than W.

Good one !


41 posted on 03/13/2003 11:50:57 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: mandingo republican
I'm not worried in the least for President Bush!

U.S. Court Rejects Appeal to Block War

03/13/2003

BOSTON (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Thursday upheld a lower court's ruling that rejected a legal bid by a group of soldiers and U.S. lawmakers to keep President Bush from invading Iraq without a formal declaration of war by Congress. A three-judge panel for the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals posted an opinion on its Web site (http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/) in which it affirmed U.S. District Judge Joseph Tauro's decision to dismiss the lawsuit.

42 posted on 03/13/2003 11:52:18 AM PST by funkywbr
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To: runningbear; RGSpincich; Devil_Anse; Jackie-O; Canadian Outrage; Velveeta; STOCKHRSE; ...
Ping
43 posted on 03/13/2003 11:53:05 AM PST by TexKat
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To: donozark
I wonder if this is an effort at a pre-emptive strike. We know that ANSWER gets funding from Communist organizations....what if they also get funding that can be tied to terrorist sources? Conyer's good buddy Ramsey Clark might just find himself indicted.
44 posted on 03/13/2003 11:54:28 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the ping, Meekie. If we didn't have so many serious matters on the table, I'd welcome this.
 Quotes from the Reparations Rally

"On August 17, 2002, a rally was held by Millions For Reparations on the mall in Washington, D.C. The rally called for the payment of reparations to blacks for the crime of slavery from both the government and businesses. The following in italics (red) are verbatim quotes, selected for their importance and significance related to the rally. The rest of the following is our commentary." http://www.thecitizensforum.com/archives/patlan/reparations.html

Representative John Conyers, Democrat - Michigan

Only the Congress can do what we want done. If that is true, why have three lawsuits been filed against private companies? Why is a fourth is in the works against the United States government? As long as people look to Congress, and thus Conyers, he is seen as the leader of the reparations movement.

George Bush could go for that. I mean, if he understands the term. I mean, we may have to explain, that’s why the have a lot of staffers. You explain it, since you explain it we’ll get it. President Bush is an intelligent man – probably a reason he has not supported H.R. 40.

Who’s his chief of staff? Andy Card.

Whoever he is, he can rewrite H.R. 40 in language he can understand. Cause he’s only been to Yale, you gotta understand, you know. He’s only been to all the best schools in the world: private school, Yale. Let’s consult Presidential biographer David C. Whitney: “They enjoyed an active, down-to-earth life of baseball, neighborhood friends, church, and public school…In 1959, when George W. was thirteen, the family moved to Houston where he attended a private school.”1 He never attended private school until he was 13! Whitney goes on to note that Bush was not fond of the prep school he was sent to, and had difficulty adjusting to the regimented atmosphere.2

Never made a dime in his life, until he got into the public trough. Am I being respectful as I describe the truth? Never made a dime in any business that he sat on the board for in his life – including the baseball team. Never made a dime. Finally got a job. Mr. Bush’s oil company was desirable enough to have merged with another company. Who wants to take over a losing business? The Texas Rangers are in a very good position today. They were able to build a new stadium when Bush was an owner. President Bush has been on the public payroll since 1995. Mr. Conyers has been a Congressman since 1965. He opposes reforming Social Security; no word on whether he feels bad about sentencing seniors to a life of meager subsistence while he will have lucrative health care benefits and an annual 5-figure paycheck upon retirement.

No, I’m talking about he got a job as governor. He stole a job, his next job. That was highway robbery; that was burglary. That could get you some time if you were going in somebody’s house. You’d be in a penitentiary now. In order to “steal” an election, the election must first be in the possession of another person. Show me any official, actual count that showed Al Gore winning Florida. All five counts/recounts showed Bush in the lead. The extrapolations of Democratic operatives or the wishes of leftist columnist will not suffice.

But thank God they had Clarence Thomas there to give them the five to four vote that told Florida to cut out counting the election while he was 264 votes ahead. I think 264 is an arbitrary number, selected at random, because no official count will include this number. There is a lot of animosity towards Clarence Thomas, I think for two primary reasons: he disagrees with the radical left, and he’s a reflection of a black person who came from nothing and attained success. If more young black children knew his story they’d realize the opportunity they’ve inherited, and might start working hard instead of making excuses. This would eliminate the black underclass and Conyer’s (and everyone else at this rally) constituency.

And we’re gonna change it in November when we elect six more of our persuasion and take over the House of Representatives. All I can say is: we’ll see, John. We’ll see.

This is the first election in American history where the loser went to the White House and the winner goes back to practicing law. Oh, the pain of such ignorance. Let’s look at the facts, something conveniently missing from this entire rally. (Winner is in bold)

Year Candidates Popular Vote Percentage Electoral Vote
1824 Andrew Jackson 43.1% 99
  John Q. Adams 30.6% 84
1876 Samuel Tilden 51% 184
  Rutherford B. Hayes 48% 185
1888 Grover Cleveland 48.6% 168
  Benjamin Harrison 47.9% 233
2000 Al Gore 48.4% 266
  George W. Bush 47.9% 271

Al Gore has never been a lawyer.

Cause that’s what we ask people that come to Congress so bad – what is your position on reparations?...You support reparations, I support you. You don’t support reparations, I don’t support you. Is that simple enough? George Walker Bush can understand that…That’s the litmus test that you ask everybody that wants to get into government so bad. Reparations is now the most important issue? That is a very bad mistake. But it fits into the ploys of the Civil Rights establishment. As long as ordinary blacks are less concerned with improving their lives and their communities, and instead are looking to the misfortunes of the past, these people have a stable and comfortable job which amounts to nothing more than professional complainer. (See Race Merchants editorial in the archives)

Reparations is a global issue now. Why do you think Bush pulled us out of Durban, South Africa at the United Nations Conference on Genocide? Because there were others that wanted to raise reparations from their country for what they suffered. President Bush withdrew from Durban because an anti-American/anti-Israel coalition was going to vote that Zionism is a form of racism and the implementation of such is genocide. This would have been a de facto condemnation of the great sovereign State of Israel. The sad part is: it is a global issue. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/424984.stm]

We paid Japan $1 billion for sex slaves and comfort women. This is a situation most people have never heard of (I myself first heard about it when watching Mr. Conyers). Here is what happened: during World War II, the conquering Japanese army set up “comfort stations” where Korean and Chinese (who the Japanese viewed as racially inferior) women were held as sexual slaves. They were raped, some by 30 or 40 men a day, for years. This included girls as young as eleven. After the war these women were paid reparations. Why did America pay? Because once we won, the Japanese feared their women would face what the women of other nations did. So they gave American soldiers access to the comfort stations. American soldiers used them for a little over a month, but they were closed because of the threat of STDs. This is a black eye on American history, much like slavery. However, the women paid reparations endured horrible tragedy – not their ancestors. As Ret. Brig. Gen. Vorley Rexroad said, “There has been no greater mass crime that I know of . . . that has been committed against modern women, modern-day women, in the 20th century.”4

We paid $1.5 billion to Boris Yeltsin, President of Russia. The money was for Russia but was squandered by Boris – a reflection of the folly of foreign aid.

We paid Austria $25 million for Holocaust survivors. Key word: survivors. These people actually suffered the horror they were being paid for! Nor were they demanding this payment.

We paid $1.2 billion to Japanese-Americans for reparations, and I voted for it. Once again, these were Japanese-Americans who had actually been sent to interment camps.

We paid, Canada gave them 250,000 square miles of land, Canada did, for the Indians and Eskimos for reparations. We paid, in the U.S., $32 million to the Ottawas of Michigan, according to treaty. We paid, the U.S. paid, $31 million to the Chippewas of Wisconsin. They paid $105 million to the Sioux of South Dakota. Australia paid 64,000 square miles of land to the Aborigines of Australia. The U.S. paid $81 million to the Klamath tribe of Oregon. They paid $1 billion and 44 million acres to the native Alaskans for land settlement. With the exception of the Aborigines, all of these are tribes recognized by the U.S. Constitution as sovereign nations. Many, if not all, had treaties violated by the government. Conyers even mentions that the Ottawas received reparations according to treaty! Can anyone provide a treaty between sovereign blacks and the U.S. government? I’ll save you the trouble of searching: there isn’t one!


45 posted on 03/13/2003 11:54:47 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (Democrats = "Weapons of Mass Obstruction.")
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To: MeeknMing; DoughtyOne
<< My eyes ! LOL ! >> Good one, eh?? [Now, where's my disco sunnies? Just where'd I put dem RayBans?]
46 posted on 03/13/2003 11:54:56 AM PST by Brian Allen (This above all -- to thine own self be true)
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To: MeeknMing
Put me on the ping list!

Birds of a feather flock together. Conyers and Clark are a couple of freeze-dried commies left over from the sixties. Their ties to socialism are well known. And that is their agenda here.
47 posted on 03/13/2003 11:55:37 AM PST by ThomasMore ([1 Pet 3:15-16])
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To: swheats
Thanks. I got the usual automated reply back within minutes . . .
48 posted on 03/13/2003 11:57:54 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: mandingo republican
they also threatened bush sr. with this before the first
gulf war. however, their media monopoly is over, and this will be reported now, not 10 years later in a post-presidency interview. this will go over like a lead balloon across this country, except on the two coasts where the "decadent left" live. i love that andrew sullivan phrase.

john conyers needs to hang it up and spend his civilian life figuring out how to be a human being. just disgraceful!!

49 posted on 03/13/2003 11:58:10 AM PST by faithincowboys (Hate The French)
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To: mandingo republican
Actually, this is perfect. There's not a chance in hell it will work, but it provides some oportunities. This will be a chance to contrast Bush's actions against Clinton's during his missile strikes on Iraq.

If Conyer's bill says Bush should be impeached because he's acting without UN sanction, we can point at all of the times Clinton did the same. It will provide a public forum for examining Clinton's record on defending our country, and that's some legacy busting stuff there.

These articles of impeachment may also provoke Bush and Co. into tearing into the Clinton administration. This would damage Hillary beyond repair.

Also keep in mind that Clinton's poll number skyrocketed during his impeachment. Like it or not, it's undeniable that people rallied behind him.
50 posted on 03/13/2003 12:00:00 PM PST by shadowman99
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To: CFC__VRWC
Thanks for the link . . .
51 posted on 03/13/2003 12:00:51 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: TexKat
Thanks for the ping, TexKat! This is the most preposterous thing I've ever heard of from a congressman.
52 posted on 03/13/2003 12:01:42 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Robe
Thanks for giving Conyer's email address. I've already written him a letter expressing my outrage!
53 posted on 03/13/2003 12:03:05 PM PST by TexasGranny
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To: CFC__VRWC
Drudge is dropping the ball by putting this "below the fold". He should run this at the top of his page.
54 posted on 03/13/2003 12:03:50 PM PST by shadowman99
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To: Brian Allen

55 posted on 03/13/2003 12:03:56 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: mandingo republican
After Clintoon bombed more countries than any other Prez in history of USA, liberal democrazies pull a stunt like this because they haven't been able to railroad the American people for the last 3 years. Oh, ppppuuuuhhhhlllleeezzzeee!
56 posted on 03/13/2003 12:05:37 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: ThomasMore
You're on now. Thanks !


57 posted on 03/13/2003 12:05:40 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: mandingo republican
Members of the Progressive [read Communist and/or Socialist] caucus in Congress ought to be banned from holding office!
58 posted on 03/13/2003 12:06:06 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: mandingo republican
Mr. Conyers...

You can't possibly be thinking of bringing impeachment charges against President Bush. What are your grounds? The congress GAVE President Bush all the authority he needs to wage war, or I guess the politically correct term these days is 'conflict'. And actually, if you read the wars power act, the President can wage war for 90 days without any permission from Congress whatsoever!

Besides that, please take a moment to read the cease fire agreement that was signed with Saddam 12 years ago. Saddam has NOT done one thing that he agreed to in writing to do. If the President wants to, he can legally and with just cause end the cease fire, since Saddam is in breach of the agreement. But the way it sounds, you would back Saddam over President Bush. So be it, the constitution gives even congressmen the right to be a fool in public.

But, if the democrats want to make fools of themselves and show that they won't stand up for this nation, please be my guest. I, for one, have learned in the last year in a half...I will never vote for a democrat again, ever. And it is the very actions of democrats like you that have helped me make that decision.

59 posted on 03/13/2003 12:06:10 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: mabelkitty
You would be FOR it? Why on earth?
60 posted on 03/13/2003 12:06:33 PM PST by twigs
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