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TO MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS: THE FLAG IS AN IDOL!
Flag Or The Cross? ^

Posted on 03/14/2003 8:03:57 PM PST by LalahLand

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To: Admin Moderator
Leave it be. We'll take care of it.
51 posted on 03/14/2003 8:18:34 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: LalahLand
What tripe.

An idol is something that is worshiped as a Creator or a Redeemer, something to which idolaters ascribe supernatural powers. If you worship an idol--in the Bible they tended to be some form of nature worship, e.g.: the sun, the Nile, sacred animals--you are substituting something else for Jehovah, or God. You aren't giving the Man upstairs His due props, to put it in the vernacular. Thus endeth Idolatry 101.

The flag is NOT an idol. It is a symbol of the greatest nation on God's green earth. We do NOT worship the flag, nor do we worship our country, because neither the flag nor the country created us nor can they redeem us.

But we do REVERE both the flag and the country, for the freedoms and liberty we enjoy here. We pledge allegiance to the country for which the flag stands, and there is certainly nothing unChristian in that. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
52 posted on 03/14/2003 8:18:36 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Love, peace, and harmony: Very nice, very nice, very nice...but maybe in the next world.)
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To: LalahLand

53 posted on 03/14/2003 8:18:38 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: LalahLand
The whiff of ozone is in the air.

I suppose this whatever wants us to grovel at the flag of the United Nations instead, who shouts "xenophobia" as robotic as it shots "racist" and "homophobia".
54 posted on 03/14/2003 8:18:41 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
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To: LalahLand
Breaking news??
55 posted on 03/14/2003 8:18:47 PM PST by craig_eddy
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To: LalahLand

56 posted on 03/14/2003 8:18:53 PM PST by Maedhros (They haif said. Quhat say they? Let thame say.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Should we sick the rabid bartender on this one?

Mmmmmmm, how about those pagan Viking kittens?

57 posted on 03/14/2003 8:19:42 PM PST by dighton
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To: jbstrick
Yes "LalahLand" There is a Santa Claus
58 posted on 03/14/2003 8:19:48 PM PST by Highway55
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To: LalahLand
You're not thinking outside a box. You have put yourself inside a box called religion and can only see the world wtih that world view. Don't come around here talking about "thinking outside the box" until you get yourself out of the box.
59 posted on 03/14/2003 8:19:50 PM PST by go star go
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To: Maedhros
I have no idea what your tagline means, but I like it.
60 posted on 03/14/2003 8:19:53 PM PST by seams2me ("if they pass the reading test, it means they learned to read" GWB 1/8/03)
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To: farmfriend
Always the preferred method :-)
61 posted on 03/14/2003 8:19:57 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: LalahLand; Admin Moderator
This is not BREAKING NEWS.
62 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:02 PM PST by mhking (Fasten your seatbelts....We're goin' in!)
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To: LalahLand
Don't you think the Freepers here are getting tired of trolling for religion controversities?

You might try thinking a little bit before you do this again!

63 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:04 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (Damn the Torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!)
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64 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:13 PM PST by Maedhros (They haif said. Quhat say they? Let thame say.)
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To: arjay
Isn't there a verse about giving unto Ceasar that which is do him? I think the flag is do a little allegiance. We will give unto God that which is do him, our true worship.
65 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:18 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: LalahLand
I Pledge Allegiance -- By Red Skelton

I - - Me; an individual; a committee of one.

Pledge - - Dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without self-pity.

Allegiance - - My love and my devotion.

To the Flag - - Our standard; Old Glory ; a symbol of Freedom; wherever she waves there is respect, because your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts, Freedom is everybody's job.

United - - That means that we have all come together.

States - - Individual communities that have united into forty-eight great states. Forty-eight individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose. All divided with imaginary boundaries, yet united to a common purpose, and that is love for country.

And to the Republic - - Republic--a state in which sovereign power is invested in representatives chosen by the people to govern. And government is the people; and it's from the people to the leaders, not from the leaders to the people.

For which it stands

One Nation - - One Nation--meaning, so blessed by God.

Indivisible - - Incapable of being divided.

With Liberty - - Which is Freedom; the right of power to live one's own life, without threats, fear, or some sort of retaliation.

And Justice - - The principle, or qualities, of dealing fairly with others.

For All - - For All--which means, boys and girls, it's as much your country as it is mine.

And now, boys and girls, let me hear you recite the Pledge of Allegiance:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands; one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country, and two words have been added to the Pledge of Allegiance: Under God. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer, and that would be eliminated from schools, too?

Red Skelton

66 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:24 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: LalahLand
Render unto Caeser, twit.

Romans 13:2

2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

67 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:25 PM PST by Licensed-To-Carry (Home of the Osamastopper.)
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To: LalahLand

68 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:26 PM PST by Brett66
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To: LalahLand
I understand what you are saying. However, you are taking the cloth concept literally. People are meaning pledge to an idea, but they say cloth. Poor grammer or vocabulary, but they really mean pledge to an idea.
69 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:29 PM PST by Peaecon
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To: LalahLand
Welcome to FR. Your page has a slogan: "keeping an open mind." I can already tell it means you are an airhead.
70 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:31 PM PST by doug from upland (Like Osama, you on the left can kiss my royal Irish *ss.)
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To: LalahLand; Admin Moderator
In addition, it's is probably spam bait, as this person signed up today to post this.
71 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:52 PM PST by mhking (Fasten your seatbelts....We're goin' in!)
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72 posted on 03/14/2003 8:21:34 PM PST by Brett66
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To: go star go
This is my problem. I think inside the box. It is all I know.

Thor
73 posted on 03/14/2003 8:21:50 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: LalahLand
You are in la la land. Love and honor and pride of one's country is good, therefore of God. We are to obey the laws of our land, it is clear throughout the Holy Bible.

If 'one' were to follow your ideals, you being on the computer right now staring at your computer screen is worshipping an idol before God. If you put socks on your feet it is putting your warm feet before you think of God. Do you see how your logic is warped, or are you just disrupting with your nonsense?

74 posted on 03/14/2003 8:21:51 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: LalahLand
I truly believe. I send my children to defend. If I have to explain. F*ck you.
75 posted on 03/14/2003 8:21:54 PM PST by Spruce
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To: LalahLand
Keep repeating:

The Doctor is my friend
The Doctor is my friend
The Doctor is my friend.
76 posted on 03/14/2003 8:21:55 PM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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77 posted on 03/14/2003 8:22:00 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: LalahLand
Methinks this lurker is a member of the "religious Left". His conversion probably took place about the same time he decided he didn't like the war with Iraq because it's being won by a Republican. Problem is he forgot that according to the Ninth Circuit Court we're not permitted to factor God into patriotism.
78 posted on 03/14/2003 8:22:10 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: LalahLand
Please explain how I'm an idiot. Is it because I choose to think outside the box?

No, not the box. Try planet earth.</p?

79 posted on 03/14/2003 8:22:21 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: LalahLand
How could you sign up tomorrow? You are living in lalahland. There is a pledge to the Christian flag. So, if we say that pledge then what is wrong with saying a pledge to our country's symbol.
80 posted on 03/14/2003 8:22:28 PM PST by MamaB
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To: LalahLand

81 posted on 03/14/2003 8:22:37 PM PST by martin_fierro (FRUCK FANCE!)
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To: LalahLand
I save this one for special occasions. My apologies to the bandwidth impaired.


82 posted on 03/14/2003 8:22:48 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: LalahLand
in other news around the world


Three Die Retrieving Phone from Latrine

NAIROBI (Reuters) - Three Kenyans died trying to retrieve a mobile phone that slipped down an open-pit latrine while its owner answered a call of nature, a newspaper reported on Friday.



Anxious to recover her phone, the owner in the coastal town of Mombasa offered 1,000 shillings ($13.09) to anyone who would recover it, the Daily Nation said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=573&e=1&u=/nm/20030314/od_nm/odd_kenya_latrine_dc

83 posted on 03/14/2003 8:22:52 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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84 posted on 03/14/2003 8:22:54 PM PST by mhking (Fasten your seatbelts....We're goin' in!)
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To: LalahLand
Please explain how I'm an idiot. Is it because I choose to think outside the box?

no, it's because you are an idiot who can't think outside the box.

85 posted on 03/14/2003 8:23:20 PM PST by nicmarlo (** UNDER GOD **)
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Hey thanks for letting the thread stand, I feel much better now.
86 posted on 03/14/2003 8:23:23 PM PST by Brett66
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To: TLBSHOW
I noticed that little fact, too. That must be magical!!!
87 posted on 03/14/2003 8:23:31 PM PST by MamaB
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To: LalahLand
I AM YOUR FLAG

I was born on June 14th, 1777.
I am more than just cloth shaped into a design.
I am the refuge of the World's oppressed people.
I am the silent sentinel of FREEDOM.
I am the emblem of the greatest sovereign nation on earth.
I am the inspiration for which AMERICAN PATRIOTS gave their lives and fortunes.
I have led your sons into battle from VALLEY FORGE to the bloody swamps of VIET NAM.
I walk in silence with each of your HONORED DEAD,
to their final resting place beneath the silent WHITE CROSSES, row upon row.
I have flown through PEACE and WAR, STRIFE and PROSPERITY, and amidst it all I have been respected.
My RED stripes...symbolize the blood spilled in defense of this glorious nation.
My WHITE stripes...signify the burning tears shed by Americans who lost their sons.
My BLUE field...is indicative of God's Heaven under which I fly.
My STARS...clustered together, unify 50 States as one, for GOD and COUNTRY.
"Old Glory" is my nickname, and proudly I wave high.
Honor me, respect me, defend me with your lives and your fortunes.
Never let my enemies tear me down from my lofty position,
Lest I never return.
Keep Alight the FIRES of PATRIOTISM,
strive earnestly for the SPIRIT of DEMOCRACY.
Worship Eternal God and keep His commandments, and
I shall remain the bulwark of PEACE and FREEDOM for all mankind.
I am your flag.

Compliments of Colonel Daniel K. Cedusky, USAR, Retired.

88 posted on 03/14/2003 8:23:40 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: LalahLand
If you pledge your allegiance to your wife, is she an idol? Is she a god? Are you a pagan polytheist?
89 posted on 03/14/2003 8:23:43 PM PST by cookcounty
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To: martin_fierro
ROFLMAO!
90 posted on 03/14/2003 8:24:09 PM PST by Brett66
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To: LalahLand
TO MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS: THE FLAG IS AN IDOL!

Only if one worships it as G-d. In its place, what the flag represents and respect for it is not antithetical to Christian teaching at least, though it may be so to the teaching of Russellites.
91 posted on 03/14/2003 8:24:24 PM PST by aruanan
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To: LalahLand
Speak for yourself.

Daniel et al were taught all the wise man stuff of Babylon. Doesn't that stike you as at least interesting. Yet somehow, Daniel was never guilty of idolatry or violating God's will.

I don't think God would have a lot of respect for someone who wasn't willing to support and protect their own country.

There may be people who worship the flag though I've never heard of nor met any of them.

The Flag to me represents our essence, our best and our standards of Freedom etc. . . . along with our right to exist.

Yes, I'm also a citizen of God's green earth in a sense.

But more, one could say I'm a citizen of the Heavenly Kingdom. I'm clear about my priorities, loyalties etc. God knows that.

A man untrue to himself is a miserable hollow shell.

A man untrue to his family is worse than an infidel.

A man untrue to his community is selfish at best.

A man untrue to his State probably has little care or appreciation for the lessons of history.

A man untrue to his country threatens his own safety and livelihood and is fit for no support nor loyalties by much of anyone.

A man untrue to God is doomed.

Of course, IMHO.
92 posted on 03/14/2003 8:24:36 PM PST by Quix (MARCH BIBLE CODES DIGEST LATEST RESEARCH COMPARES WAR AND PEACE VS BIBLE W SURPRISES 4 BOTH SIDES)
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Could be on a mission, ya know...


93 posted on 03/14/2003 8:24:47 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
controversities?

Keyboard hiccup? ;-)

94 posted on 03/14/2003 8:25:17 PM PST by TomServo
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To: martin_fierro; LalahLand

95 posted on 03/14/2003 8:25:22 PM PST by Maedhros (They haif said. Quhat say they? Let thame say.)
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To: LalahLand
You are in la la land. Love and honor and pride of one's country is good, therefore of God. We are to obey the laws of our land, it is clear throughout the Holy Bible.

If 'one' were to follow your ideals, you being on the computer right now staring at your computer screen is worshipping an idol before God. If you put socks on your feet it is putting your warm feet before you think of God. Do you see how your logic is warped, or are you just disrupting with your nonsense?

96 posted on 03/14/2003 8:25:28 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Licensed-To-Carry
Beat you by 2 posts.
97 posted on 03/14/2003 8:25:41 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: patriciaruth
That is a great picture, thanks
98 posted on 03/14/2003 8:25:54 PM PST by apackof2 (Our answer, RALLY FOR AMERICA)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
What light?
99 posted on 03/14/2003 8:25:56 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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This is my problem. I think inside the box. It is all I know

Don't you hate when that happens?

100 posted on 03/14/2003 8:26:10 PM PST by mhking (Fasten your seatbelts....We're goin' in!)
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