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Tucson reservist loses job when Navy calls
Tucson Citizen ^ | 3/15/03 | OSCAR ABEYTA and IRWIN M. GOLDBERG

Posted on 03/15/2003 2:43:38 PM PST by gtech

A federal lawsuit alleges Pep Boys fired a store manager because of his military obligation.

Automotive supply chain Pep Boys fired a Tucson store manager because his military Reserve duties took him away from work, according to a federal lawsuit filed here.
It may not be an isolated case. Several other reservists fired from Pep Boys in Tucson and Pennsylvania have contacted a military advocacy group with similar complaints.
Pep Boys' Tucson attorney, Todd E. Hale, declined to comment on the lawsuit, citing company policy not to discuss ongoing legal cases.

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To: Bulldogs22
As I said before. I have heard thru channels that the Pep Boys are dating the Dixie Chicks...
41 posted on 03/15/2003 5:12:51 PM PST by MrPeanut
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To: patriot5186
Good to hear.
42 posted on 03/15/2003 5:17:33 PM PST by doug from upland (Like Osama, you on the left can kiss my royal Irish *ss.)
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To: Timesink
Must be your Sears. We have no problem. Eagle Scouts and Boy Scouts that my husband and I trained work the areas at Sears that we shop. MORE POWER....CRAFTSMAN TOOLS...!!!!!
43 posted on 03/15/2003 5:18:30 PM PST by waRNmother.armyboots
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44 posted on 03/15/2003 5:28:42 PM PST by firewalk
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
You just have to give the deployed person back his/her job when they come back. I fail to see how that would be an incredible hardship.

Okay, I'll explain. In my own case, a temp worker coming in would be all but worthless. To replace my current primary employee in one of my businesses—whether permanently or for a year—would take me 9-12 months of daily training. Since I own other business interests I have to take care of, this means that something would definitely have to suffer. It's definitely not a matter of just "hiring someone to fill in." Utterly impossible. And no one worth hiring is going to take the job anyway with the understanding that they're gone as soon as someone else gets back home. I don't mean it sarcastically in the least when I say that you fail to see how it's a hardship because you're not the one trying to make it work. Thankfully it's not an issue in any of my present circumstances, but holding a job for someone, no matter how noble the reason, would be a practical impossibility.


45 posted on 03/15/2003 5:33:21 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: gtech
Dimensional Fund Advisors Inc., is the largest institutional investor in Pep Boys, owning about 7.8% of its stock. DFA is one of those modern billion dollar contrivances that allows people -- who would go into shock if they ever found dirt under their fingernails -- to invest in the global market. These guys could care less about Pep Boys; if they get hit hard by this, DFA will drop the stock like a hot rock.
46 posted on 03/15/2003 5:49:55 PM PST by gaspar
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To: gtech
The company my husband and I work for (SBC) not only makes up the difference between their SBC pay and their service pay, they also continue the health insurance for, I beleive, up to one year. I'm proud my company treats their employees who serve their country so well.
47 posted on 03/15/2003 5:55:46 PM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: madfly; Constitution Day; B4Ranch; glock rocks; VaBthang4
Ping! Bump!! No Pep Boyz!
49 posted on 03/15/2003 6:10:36 PM PST by Madcelt (Don't ya just lothe the rats? and Pep Boys)
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To: zuggerlee
Well, DUH!!! Obviously if the job was a contract job or a job that no longer exists because of being completed or the business going belly up there would not be a job for which to return. I do not believe the law says that you have a job if "You don't have a job!!!"
50 posted on 03/15/2003 6:12:58 PM PST by waRNmother.armyboots
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To: MississippiMan
Okay, I can understand your position. Must be some job to take 9 to 12 months of daily training!!! Most jobs I have worked, a temp could come in a work, but then the training/education all happens before I am hired. People who work for me in the jobs for which I hire are up and running in one month max. Believe it or not there are people out there who do want temporary jobs and would glad to work full time for someone who is gone temporarily. They do not want long term full time jobs.
51 posted on 03/15/2003 6:18:04 PM PST by waRNmother.armyboots
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
Must be some job to take 9 to 12 months of daily training!!!

Yes, it's a very specialized retail niche that takes an inordinate amount of time to bring a newbie up to speed on.

If I told you what the job was, you'd instantly say, "Oh, NOW I understand." ;-)

I'm glad it's not an issue. There's no one who feels more heartfelt support for the military and it would be tough to pull off and heartbreaking if I couldn't.


52 posted on 03/15/2003 6:37:08 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: gtech
LOL. I'm sorry, this kind of cacca is starting to amuse me. These corporate idiots have no idea about the cacca-storm that's heading their way. Goons like this need to have a lobotomy to see if they've got any brains.

How the hell corporations like Pep Boys think they're going to get away with crapola like this, during war-time, with us FReepers patrolling for unpatriotic maneuvers like piranha on steroids, is beyond me.

Hell, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. Those idiots are gonna get whiplash from the body-blows coming their way. Some idiots and idiot-corporations kinda take the fun out of it . . . the least they could do is make it a bit more challenging.


53 posted on 03/15/2003 6:50:12 PM PST by geedee
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To: Madcelt

curly moe and larry can kiss my ass.

54 posted on 03/15/2003 7:01:31 PM PST by glock rocks (prayers for our men and women in harms way)
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To: MississippiMan
It's definitely not a matter of just "hiring someone to fill in." Utterly impossible

Not impossible, in fact it would work great for a national chain. You move an trusted area assistant manager(s) into the position temporarily. The position is filed and the chain can "test drive" these assistants to see how well they'll get along in the position and whether they can move up someday. It's the same as running a school for managers, and they'll have a pool of qualified assistants.

55 posted on 03/15/2003 7:17:35 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: MississippiMan
Miss Man,
If you knew what waRNmother.armyboots did for a living I think you would realize that she too has a 'very specialized niche'. You said yours was retail, her's is much more than mere retail. She also describes a body of workers who are highly skilled and professional who neither want nor look for permanent full time positions. I too am in that field and know she is correct.

I guess keeping track of those public school educated burger flippers (woops) I mean specialized retail personnel would take years. LOL
56 posted on 03/15/2003 7:47:10 PM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN you are UNAmerican)
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To: doug from upland
I don't know which channel I heard it on but it had to be Fox or MSNBC, it was just included in a little human interest story.
57 posted on 03/15/2003 9:08:05 PM PST by tiki
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To: glock rocks
we don't need no stinkin pepboys!

58 posted on 03/15/2003 9:09:43 PM PST by Pete-R-Bilt (peace out... carry something in a caliber of at least 40...)
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To: LincolnLover
>>>I am interested to see how this and other cases play out.

The law that applies is the Soldiers and sailor relief act.

If you get activated and you notify your employer and crediters they must make adjustments to accomodate your situation and they must put you back on the job with seniority and promotions you would have received if you had not been activated. It is mandatory.

The reason Sears is doing it is because they were around when it was done before.

Pep Boys apparently was not. They will learn.

59 posted on 03/15/2003 9:28:12 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)
I have a feeling that Schlep Boys is about to learn an expensive lesson from the U.S. Justice Dept. The Defense Dept. does not screw around with this sort of thing, considering all of it's lawyers are Reserve officers.
60 posted on 03/15/2003 10:51:33 PM PST by EricT. (Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Pinky?)
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