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Texas sheriff warns of unidentified troops - (foreign troops in America)
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | March 17, 2003 | WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 03/16/2003 10:54:27 PM PST by FreeSpeechZone

HOMELAND INSECURITY Texas sheriff warns of unidentified troops Believes armed men in fatigues spotted within country are foreign

A southern Texas sheriff is warning the public that unidentified armed men dressed in military fatigues have been spotted on numerous occasions in his county near the border with Mexico.

For the "country's safety," Sheriff Erasmo Alarcon Jr., of Jim Hogg County, published a letter in a local newspaper to alert citizens of reports he has received for some years from ranchers who have spotted the unknown troops, equipped with "professional backpacks" and walking together in a military cadence.

The latest sightings were just a few weeks ago, he said.

The county's deputy sheriff, Guadalupe Rodriguez, said he believes the armed men were foreign and were not drug smugglers.

"They are not your regular traffickers that you get," he told WND. "But we don't want to draw conclusions at this point and get everybody worked up." Alarcon said in his letter that "these military-type individuals have been sighted in very remote locations of our county," which "stretches 50 or 60 miles from end to end."

"We have reported this information to higher-up law enforcement agencies, but no one really knows who these individuals are, not even the military," he said in his letter, published by the Jim Hogg County Enterprise in Hebbronville, Texas, March 13.

The sheriff said that reports of sightings most often were received the next day, meaning that there was little that could have been done.

On one occasion, a report was received within several hours of the sighting.

"That particular time, we formed an immediate multi-agency task force between the surrounding counties, but we were met with little success," Alarcon said. "We even brought in air support."

The sheriff said he is publicizing the information "because we still don't know who these individuals are."

"Obviously, they are trespassing, and obviously, they are carrying something," he said. "We hope it's narcotics and not something much worse."

Alarcon said he is bringing "this information to light because of the security crisis our nation faces."

"If you see these individuals please call us immediately," he said. "Remember the last plane that was taken down to prevent further terrorism was done by everyday Americans who loved their country enough to die protecting it."

He advised that "if you see these individuals do not talk to them, do not confront them, but simply call 911. We don't know who these individuals are so there no telling what they are capable of. Thank you! God bless America!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arizona; california; foreign; newmexico; texas; troops
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1 posted on 03/16/2003 10:54:27 PM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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To: FreeSpeechZone

2 posted on 03/16/2003 11:02:05 PM PST by Maedhros (They haif said. Quhat say they? Let thame say.)
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To: TEXASPROUD; razorback-bert
Ping ! ?!?!?!?
3 posted on 03/16/2003 11:02:19 PM PST by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: FreeSpeechZone
It is WAY past time for our government to call on more vounteers, who perhaps missed the opportunity to serve in uniform before...

To go to boot camp, take the oath, shoulder the firearms and walkie talkies... and start hoofing the border trails in formal squads...

Backed by fast response national guard and helicopters, armed only slightly less than apaches...

It's time to button up the homeland and find out who the hell belongs here and who does not.
4 posted on 03/16/2003 11:05:46 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (What price treason?)
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To: FreeSpeechZone; Poohbah
PING
5 posted on 03/16/2003 11:07:43 PM PST by Quix (MARCH BIBLE CODES DIGEST LATEST RESEARCH COMPARES WAR AND PEACE VS BIBLE W SURPRISES 4 BOTH SIDES)
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To: Maedhros
If you think a report like this from the border area is tinfoil hat material ... you must have another agenda.
6 posted on 03/16/2003 11:09:46 PM PST by mercy
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To: FreeSpeechZone
I have gotten to the point where I take stories like this with a salt lick. You know, a giant block of salt for deer.

There are a whole bunch of possible explanations for this that don't involve foreign armed forces, such as paintballers/airsofties, some militia unit, a bunch of young ex-military guys 'training', US Special ops, USBP Special Operations to name a few.

I am also aware of the recent Mexican military cross-border incidents, so I do not discount that something like that may be happening. I *don't* think that it's likely to be anyone more sinister, like Al Q or Iraqis- just doesn't make tactical sense to enter the US with no plausible cover and risk compromise that way.
7 posted on 03/16/2003 11:11:04 PM PST by Riley
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To: Robert_Paulson2
...Backed by fast response national guard and helicopters, armed only slightly less than apaches...

All the NG, Reserve forces and equipment are overseas.

8 posted on 03/16/2003 11:11:13 PM PST by Born on the Storm King
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To: Maedhros
Foreign Military in th U.S.
9 posted on 03/16/2003 11:12:14 PM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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To: Sabertooth
Schlurck!
10 posted on 03/16/2003 11:12:17 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: mercy
he does
11 posted on 03/16/2003 11:12:53 PM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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To: mercy
no doubt
12 posted on 03/16/2003 11:14:20 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Maedhros
Among the other highlights from the census report: _Nearly 17 million people, or just over half of the foreign-born population in 2002, came from Latin America. Over half of the 17 million arrived after 1990. _Slightly more than one-quarter of the foreign-born population had a bachelor's degree or more, about the same as the native-born population. More than 20 percent of the foreign-born population had less than a ninth-grade education, compared with about 5 percent of the native population. The census report did not count immigrants in jails, nursing homes or other group quarters, and did not cover illegal immigration. A separate report released in January by the Immigration and Naturalization

Service estimated an illegal immigrant population of roughly 7 million, growing about 350,000 a year during the 1990s.

Mexicans made up almost 70 percent of the illegal immigrant population in 2000, the INS said. ___ On the Net: Census Bureau: http://www.census.gov

13 posted on 03/16/2003 11:17:32 PM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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To: Born on the Storm King
right time
14 posted on 03/16/2003 11:18:57 PM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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To: mercy; All
We have the same problem in San Diego.

But ... mostly our guys come with guns blazing - riding in White SUV's (which were mostly stolen from the US); other times, they're on foot, but always with weapons.
15 posted on 03/16/2003 11:25:11 PM PST by CyberAnt ( -> -> -> Oswego!!)
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To: Maedhros
How many foreign troops are in America now ?
16 posted on 03/16/2003 11:29:35 PM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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To: Born on the Storm King
There are very few actual Army National Guard and Reserve land FIGHTING forces have been sent overseas, actually.

What gets actively deployed from the NG and Reserve are specialist and support units, in vast numbers.

There are huge numbers of Army National Guard troops and all their equipment that hasn't been called up and hasn't been deployed anywhere. Frankly, the Army doesn't trust them enough to use them unless they're incredibly desperate.

If the DPRK came over the DMZ there are some "High Readiness" ANG land units that would get deployed but as for other ANG units there are a lot that wouldn't go even then.
17 posted on 03/16/2003 11:47:05 PM PST by John H K
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To: FreeSpeechZone
Anybody who seriously believes Kazakhstani troops are being trained in the US to implement UN control of the US seriously needs their meds increased or their straitjacket straps tightened a bit.
18 posted on 03/16/2003 11:49:34 PM PST by John H K
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To: John H K
I don't know much about drugs or straightjackets but I know a few good solid citizens, sound individuals all, who've been using blue helmets for target practice these last few years.
19 posted on 03/17/2003 12:12:24 AM PST by JFoxbear
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To: Squantos
LRRPS ?
20 posted on 03/17/2003 12:15:16 AM PST by JFoxbear
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To: Maedhros
I think more tin is needed.
21 posted on 03/17/2003 12:17:21 AM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: JFoxbear
Nahhh they would'nt be in any given formation nor would they ever be seen. My guess is a civilian border patrol group doing some wannabe training.

Stay Safe !!

22 posted on 03/17/2003 12:24:13 AM PST by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: FreeSpeechZone
this was a reality check and scare to me almost 20 years ago and now, well....

Red Dawn (1984)

Synopsis: In the near future a group of teens escape to the nearby forest to protect themselves when the Soviet Union and Cuba launch an attack on the United States and paratroop into their small midwestern town.

A chilling quote from the movie:

In our time, no foreign has ever occupied American soil...Until Now!

23 posted on 03/17/2003 12:50:49 AM PST by JustPiper (Pull out of the UN and drive into Bagdad)
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bookmark
24 posted on 03/17/2003 12:52:44 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: FreeSpeechZone
Men with professional backpacks....Good Lord...send in the Marines.
25 posted on 03/17/2003 12:56:43 AM PST by Mr. Burns
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To: Squantos
I was joking about the LRRP question. I agree with your guess and would add that in my view, a Citizens Militia on the borders is a good thing! They ought to hook up with the Sherriff' radio frequency and stay well regulated (well practiced) at all times!
26 posted on 03/17/2003 1:15:38 AM PST by JFoxbear
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To: John H K
Your #18:

The UN has never succeeded in controling anything. How could they ever conquer several million freedom loving American made Deer Rifles?

27 posted on 03/17/2003 1:25:55 AM PST by JFoxbear
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To: John H K
Anyone who has been on the border for any length of time probably knows that there are always little armies out there. Filibusters, self appointed militia, men playing soldier, and sometimes our guys. They've been there as long as the border has.

The Mexicans had to run James Kirker out when his little army began taking Mexican scalps along with Apache. They also dealt rather harshly with Henry Crabb at Caborca.

The little hunchback and sometimes advisor to Sun Yat-sen, Homer Lea, drilled his rag-tags in the hills outside if Santa Barbara in preparation for the Japanese invasion years before Pearl Harbor.

I've had two encounters with Apachies (helicopter type). Once, in the boonies, I heard the strangest noise. Suddenly an Apache rose up out of the canyon next to me and I was eyeball to eyeball with a grinning pilot and a mixed array of modern firepower. Not for the weak of bladder.

Another time I was driving down a mountain road in the middle of the night. In the blink of an eye it was daylight. It was either the rapture, and alien abduction attempt, or an Apache pilot playing with the brightest spotlight you've ever seen.

Once I was checking a remote water tank when I met three of our guys coming down the trail I was going up. They were in full battle gear. As we passed we all nodded and said "Good morning." as if we were meeting on a city street.

More recently, after it was reported that our people were having trouble acclimating to high altitudes around Tora Bora, transport helicopters suddenly began appearing in high mountain regions. Those vast empty spaces are never really empty.


28 posted on 03/17/2003 1:38:09 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: FreeSpeechZone
dated 1996 november / december issue


29 posted on 03/17/2003 1:49:21 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK ("He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling." Gandalf)
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To: Born on the Storm King
All the NG, Reserve forces and equipment are overseas.

No they aren't. What would make you think so?

A lot of them are running bases over here for troops who are over there.

30 posted on 03/17/2003 3:34:57 AM PST by Amelia
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To: JFoxbear
The US still has blue helmets. US alongwith UK troops serve under UN command in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia. Not a stones throw from Iraq under UNOMIG.

http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/dpko/unomig.pdf

http://www.unomig.org/unomig/role/role.html

http://www.unomig.org/facts_and_figures/facts_and_figures.html

On a lighter note the US people are ready for the UN invasion!

http://www.krug.org/unit/menu.html

http://www.krug.org/unit/un/chicago.html


http://www.iahushua.com/WOI/forces.html

http://investigativejournal.com/stories/chemtrailscuppett.htm

"Do you have evidence of the upcoming United Nations' invasion? Send your intelligence, photographs, and eyewitness sightings to us at UNTracking@USA.net. "

http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/nov99/index.shtml

http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/nwo-006.htm

The following is an image of a UN marked USAF U-2. All hell would break loose if they forgot to remove the markings before it returned to US soil! The militia would be out with the AAA!
31 posted on 03/17/2003 5:24:36 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo
http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/presspack/slides/38_u2.jpg
32 posted on 03/17/2003 5:25:41 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: FreeSpeechZone
Jim Hogg County isn't a border county, and it would be one heck of a long walk from the border.
33 posted on 03/17/2003 5:29:16 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: FreeSpeechZone
Sheriff Erasmo Alarcon Jr., of Jim Hogg County

Does this not dilute credibility? ;~)

34 posted on 03/17/2003 5:30:24 AM PST by verity
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To: John H K
Anybody who seriously believes Kazakhstani troops are being trained in the US to implement UN control of the US seriously needs their meds increased or their straitjacket straps tightened a bit.

I would rather have over vigilant, pro freedom citizens than a bunch of folks with their heads in the sand, who use ridicule to ostracize anybody who holds ideas which will not fit within the narrow confines of their belief systems.

35 posted on 03/17/2003 5:39:54 AM PST by galt-jw
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36 posted on 03/17/2003 6:11:04 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Squantos; Dog Gone; dtel; NerdDad
My guess is a civilian border patrol group doing some wannabe

If they are overweight, I agree.

I get my oil changed at a Republic of Texas(they really do the best job) station, will ask them.

37 posted on 03/17/2003 6:58:36 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: FreeSpeechZone
Well, if al qaeda or any other terrorist organization wanted to effectively set up operations against the US on our soil, I guess they could pick no better place to do it than the Mexican border where it is well known that we do absolutely nothing to protect ourselves even when our own border patrol officers are shot at. I would hate to think that we will have to come under serious attack by some radical Islamists from the south to actually get serious about border control...or would political correctness still be the rule of the day?
38 posted on 03/17/2003 7:10:18 AM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: madfly
fyi
39 posted on 03/17/2003 7:46:10 AM PST by Free the USA (Stooge for the Rich)
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To: Squantos
Nahhh they would'nt be in any given formation nor would they ever be seen. My guess is a civilian border patrol group doing some wannabe training.

Stay Safe !!

I don't think so. You notice the mention of *professional backpacks* [likely Alice rucks] but not one of weapons? My guess is either one of the Columbia wreckage search teams, or possibly a unit getting in some drill time during a CN or terrain familiarization exercise, maybe *off the books.*


40 posted on 03/17/2003 8:15:31 AM PST by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: FreeSpeechZone
Not Enough Information.

But then again, who would ever have believed that 9-11 could happen ?

41 posted on 03/17/2003 8:42:30 AM PST by happygrl
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To: Tommyjo
Thanks much for those links. I hope they work. I'm going to check a few of them out later on.

I don't think that ANY UN troop activity would be tolerated for long, here in our homeland. If I had any say in the matter, the USA would dump that bunch.

God Bless America! and guard US Sovereignty.

When the UN speaks, Lady Liberty weeps.

42 posted on 03/17/2003 8:44:15 AM PST by JFoxbear
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To: MeeknMing; Alamo-Girl; GalvestonGal.com; Domestic Church; sandyeggo; NYer; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
Wide Open Borders -- BUMP with severe concern.
43 posted on 03/17/2003 10:36:50 AM PST by Maeve (Siobhan's daughter and sometime banshee.)
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To: FreeSpeechZone
Proof that it isn't "paranoia" to watch for DOMESTIC enemies!!
44 posted on 03/17/2003 11:03:22 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: FreeSpeechZone
Well, normally I would discount things like this post but just recently the Mennonites are coming out of Mexico and asking where they can buy guns. They say there is something funny going on down there but they weren't specific. It wasn't just one or two together they have come in separately asking.

It must be serious because Mexico seriously frowns on personal ownership of guns and these guys would have to smuggle them across the border.

45 posted on 03/17/2003 11:36:38 AM PST by tiki
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
We've been "watching" this develop for over 5 years. Since the Chinese took the Panama Canal. I've got MULTIPLE pieces of information on my own BBSes about this in a thread called "Ground War in the US". It's got several hundred posts, and a LOT of back up information. WE think China, North Korea, Cuba at least are involved in these "incursions". We also believe they are "tests" of the defenses there, and will some day be exploited against us.

Call it "paranoia" if you like (whomever said that first), but I'd rather be a bit paranoid and be prepared than to be surprised...
46 posted on 03/17/2003 11:38:40 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Considering the HORRIFIC proof that we already have (9/11, Anthrax attacks, etc) I'd say it is extremely wise and necessary to be on our toes!!
47 posted on 03/17/2003 11:44:24 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Rick.Donaldson
You're right! It isn't paranoia... right here on Free Republic over the past year, we've read about our agents, rangers, killed by Mexicans in military uniforms. My nephew is with the border patrol. I can't understand why these occurrances are not in the media, and why it hasn't been deemed, "an act of war"!!!
48 posted on 03/17/2003 12:12:25 PM PST by Terridan
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To: Maeve; FreeSpeechZone
He advised that "if you see these individuals do not talk to them, do not confront them, but simply call 911. We don't know who these individuals are so there no telling what they are capable of. Thank you! God bless America!

A concerned Sheriff doing his job. I hope they figure this out soon!

And he's right too. Todd Beamer and the caller in the Elizibeth Smart case immediately come to mind . . .

Thanks for the post and the ping . . .

49 posted on 03/17/2003 12:15:41 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
...be on our toes!!
I agree.
50 posted on 03/17/2003 12:17:58 PM PST by tall_tex
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