Posted on 03/22/2003 3:37:20 AM PST by kattracks
I decided to go over to the ZENIT web site see what the Vatican is actually saying. I can't find the comments Reuters is so gleefully reporting. The toughest language I did find was this. Now what I quoted from the offical news site of the Vatican is a far cry from what is being reported and used to bash the Pope.
They mollycoddle pedophiles and murderers. They refuse to evangelize. They turned Holy Mass into a play-acted travesty. They have watered down the faith to the point of non-recogniition. The only sins for them? Racism, sexism, and war.
And yes, the Second Robber Council, Vatican II is directly at the center of this. The end result of that was some queer organization calling itself both verbally and in its official documents "The Conciliar Church". This Conciliar Church continues to occupy our houses of worship and hold its impostures there, but it won't for long. Its votaries are dying off (and now being arrested too) and not being replaced. There are no replacements because they have decimated the seminaries so that far fewer men are ordained than die or leave the priesthood.
The only locus of growth is in the supporers of the traditional Latin Mass and traditional Faith. We are also the only ones having any appreciable numbers of children, which is why when you go to a Conciliarist service, you see a sea of grey heads. "Such a group hath a dying ring ..."
"Let him who has no sword sell his tunic and buy one." (Luke 22.36)
The Prince of Peace: "And I saw heaven standing open; and behold, a white horse, and He Who sat upon it is called Faithful and True, and with justice He judges and wages war." (Revelation 19.11)
"Proclaim ye this among the nations: prepare for war, rouse up the strong: let them come, let all the men of war come up. Cut your plowshares in swords, and your spades into spears. Let the weak say: I am strong. Break forth, and come, all ye nations, from round about, and gather yourselves together: there will the Lord cause all thy strong ones to fall down." (Joel 3.9-11)
I don't think Jesus Christ was or is or ever will be a pacifist.
The role of conscience. While we have warned of the potential moral dangers of embarking on this war, we have also been clear that there are no easy answers. War has serious consequences, so could the failure to act. People of good will may and do disagree on how to interpret just war teaching and how to apply just war norms to the controverted facts of this case. We understand and respect the difficult moral choices that must be made by our President and others who bear the responsibility of making these grave decisions involving our nation's and the world's security (Catechism #2309)
I'm going to read it more closely and if I find the anti-American, brain dead sentiment that is being reported about the official statements of the Vatican and the American Catholic bishops, I will post them. But, so far I haven't seen them. What I have seen is the usual suspects in the media doing what they love best to do to the Church.
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/special_features/peace/prayer-peace_index.html
If you accept the notion that catholicism is basically just the religion of ancient Babylon with a smattering of Christianity thrown in to confuse the masses, then you can see at least one motivation for the pope's actions: Saddam Hussein was going to rebuild Babylon.
A classic mistranslation which is clearly idiotic as stated since it would forbid even self-defense. The commandment should read: Thou shalt do no murder.
There is a role for the soldier to play in this world. When a soldier is used in a war of aggression, that is wrong. However, when a soldier is used in a war against an aggressor, that is right.
I like to reduce the situation with Saddam to a simple allegory which, unfortunately, liberals still fail to understand. The allegory is that of a stand-off between policemen and an armed and barricaded criminal holding hostages. In such a situation, there can be only one of two solutions:
1) The criminal drops his weapon and surrenders;
2) The criminal does not, and the police take action to apprehend him.
Those are the only two solutions, and only the first is the peaceful one. If the criminal refuses to drop his gun and come out with his hands up, the police must do their job and move in. Should they need to shoot him, then they must, and any violence which becomes necessary is the fault of the criminal. But the stand-off cannot drag on forever.
For anyone to suggest that there is a THIRD solution -- that the police should leave and allow the criminal to remain armed and dangerous and at large -- and to suggest that this third solution is peaceful, is ludicrous. It would be a dereliction of duty on the part of the police, and it would spell disaster for the criminal's next victim. And yet it is this ludicrous third solution which the peaceniks, and the Vatican, insist be implemented.
When evil rears its ugly head, and threatens lives, its must be confronted. And if violence is necessary to defeat it, then so be it. Is violence avoided by not confronting the evil? No, because then the evil is free to commit its own violence at a time of its choosing. Better that violence be used by those on the side of good to defeat evil, than violence be used later upon the innocent by those on the side of evil. Anyone who doesn't understand this, has no wisdom whatsoever... and one would think that the Pope, or any man of God, would possess at least SOME God-given wisdom.
Take this quote from last week's Today's Catholic,attributed to Cardinal Pio Laghi,former Vatican ambassador to the U.S.,and an emissary from the Pope;it couldn't sound more like a radical liberal puke if...well,read it:
"Look what happened in Afghanistan.It is not clear what happened.Peace and freedom hasn't happened there."
And here's one more quote, perhaps the best of all:
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword." -- Matt 11:34
And one more:
For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then sudden destruction comes upon them. -- 1 Th 5:3
And one which disturbingly fits the current Church:
"Because from the least of them even to the greatest of them,
Everyone is given to covetousness;
And from the prophet even to the priest,
Everyone deals falsely.
They have also healed the hurt of My people slightly, saying,
'Peace, peace!' when there is no peace.
Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination?
No! They were not at all ashamed;
Nor did they know how to blush.
Therefore they shall fall among those who fall;
At the time I punish them,
They shall be cast down," says the Lord.
Jeremiah 6:13-15
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