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Peace protesters shocked back to reality
UPI | 3/22/03 | rocky88

Posted on 03/22/2003 12:26:24 PM PST by rocky88

Kenneth Joseph, a young American pastor with the Assyrian Church of the East, told UPI the trip "had shocked me back to reality."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: humanshields; kennethjoseph
A group of American anti-war demonstrators who came to Iraq with Japanese human shield volunteers made it across the border today with 14 hours of uncensored video, all shot without Iraqi government minders present. Kenneth Joseph, a young American pastor with the Assyrian Church of the East, told UPI the trip "had shocked me back to reality." Some of the Iraqis he interviewed on camera "told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start. They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny. They convinced me that Saddam was a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his sons are sick sadists. Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so they could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head."

Click for entire story: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030321-023627-5923r

1 posted on 03/22/2003 12:26:24 PM PST by rocky88
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To: rocky88
Bump for an excellent find!
2 posted on 03/22/2003 12:28:57 PM PST by EllaMinnow (``No Saddam Hussein!'' one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. ``Bush!'')
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To: rocky88
Nothing like like a little dose of reality to counter all the garbage spewed by the left-wing media.
3 posted on 03/22/2003 12:29:30 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: rocky88
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030321-023627-5923r
4 posted on 03/22/2003 12:29:41 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Gulf War II: The Mother of All Surrenders)
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To: rocky88
Too bad these other 5th columnists can't go to Iraq to see reality.
5 posted on 03/22/2003 12:30:09 PM PST by Brett66
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To: Poohbah; wimpycat; Catspaw; ArneFufkin; hchutch; Long Cut; sinkspur
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6 posted on 03/22/2003 12:30:40 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (Paleocons - the American version of the French and the UN)
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To: rocky88

7 posted on 03/22/2003 12:31:01 PM PST by Cindy
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To: rocky88
The link is for another story!
8 posted on 03/22/2003 12:31:18 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: rocky88
I heard about this on the radio a bit ago but I didn't get the guy's name.
Thanks for the great info.

Sadly, I suppose this won't be posted on the anti-war web sites - I won't hold my breath.

9 posted on 03/22/2003 12:32:43 PM PST by LibertyThug
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To: rocky88
Stunning. I hope he gets the message out.
10 posted on 03/22/2003 12:33:36 PM PST by MEG33
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To: AlaskaErik
Keep reading.
11 posted on 03/22/2003 12:34:07 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: rocky88

12 posted on 03/22/2003 12:34:32 PM PST by happydogdesign
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To: AlaskaErik
Scroll down, middle of page.
13 posted on 03/22/2003 12:34:55 PM PST by Bayou City
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To: rocky88
Probably never see this from Blather, Jennings, Brokejaw, et all.

But the truth is independent in its own sphere and it will get out.

... those sorry sick bastards. Let's roll to Baghdad!

14 posted on 03/22/2003 12:38:58 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: rocky88
Just mentioned on The Dom Giordano Show on 1210 AM WPHT in Philadelphia. Besides his show, who wants to bet this will be one of the only places we will hear it? Will we hear it on ABC? NBC? The New York Times?
15 posted on 03/22/2003 12:39:18 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: Brett66
Too bad these other 5th columnists can't go to Iraq to see reality.

And worse yet that their fellow 5th columnists in the media won't give this the top billing they give the anti-war creeps.

16 posted on 03/22/2003 12:41:34 PM PST by Dahoser (Saddam's last job...capacity testing Depends...he overflowed the industrial size.)
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To: redlipstick
Finally, a dose of reality!
17 posted on 03/22/2003 12:45:45 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: rocky88
Wow....at least some people are willing to face reality.
My bet is many in the Hollyweird crowd and Bush haters wouldn't change their minds no matter what...
18 posted on 03/22/2003 12:46:26 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Paleo Conservative
Your link is to a completely different story.
19 posted on 03/22/2003 12:46:52 PM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: Jorge
>>My bet is many in the Hollyweird crowd and Bush haters wouldn't change their minds no matter what... <<

So true. This isn't about war at all. It's about a visceral hatred for Western Civilization in general, and for its symbols (the USA), and defenders (Bush and Blair).
20 posted on 03/22/2003 12:50:41 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ( ;)
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To: rocky88
Bump. Thanks for an important post.
21 posted on 03/22/2003 12:51:30 PM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: rocky88
This story isn't on UPI anymore, apparently. It's not at the URL you posted, and doesn't come up in a site search.
22 posted on 03/22/2003 12:54:57 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: rocky88
Thank you for the post, and God Bless America.
23 posted on 03/22/2003 12:55:08 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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To: AlaskaErik
Just scroll down the page and you'll see the excerpt..
24 posted on 03/22/2003 12:57:59 PM PST by rocky88
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To: Illbay
I pulled this off of Drudge, and his "headline" was what I ripped... and when you link to the story, it has a different headline - but it is the right story. Just scroll down to the middle of the article.
25 posted on 03/22/2003 12:59:19 PM PST by rocky88
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Reality can be a beech. Visions of bringing tanks to a halt with their mere presence. Guess they didn't hear about what happened in Tiananmen Square after the lights went out.
26 posted on 03/22/2003 12:59:59 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: rocky88
Never mind. I found it.
27 posted on 03/22/2003 1:01:28 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: rocky88
It reminds of the time the old rock group Blood Sweat and Tears toured some eastern European countries like Romania back in the sixties. When they came back to the U.S., their lead guitarist Steve Katz announced at a press conference that he was shocked at the brutality and repression they found in those Eastern Bloc countries. The ignorance of the liberals is astounding.
28 posted on 03/22/2003 1:49:56 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: rocky88
This story was read at the Milwaukee Rally today by FReeper LouD. At first the crowd did not want to hear from the "ant-war" group, but the story was met with great cheers when it became apparent at what it was about.
29 posted on 03/22/2003 1:55:59 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (former resident of Snohomish!)
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To: redlipstick
Some of the Iraqis he interviewed on camera "told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start. They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny.

Oh, my Lord.

Thank goodness their prayers are being answered and soon aid will be flowing as promised.

As President George W. Bush has been known to say: "Help is on the way!"

30 posted on 03/22/2003 2:01:08 PM PST by cyncooper (God be with President Bush, PM Blair, and the Coalition of the Willing)
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To: rocky88
It's not there any longer. It links to a story by de Borchgrave. I went to Drudge and followed his link, and that is also broken and leads to de Borchgrave.

UPI obviously pulled the story. Does anyone have a copy they can post here?
31 posted on 03/22/2003 2:04:20 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
I just followed that link and the portion this thread is based on is about midway down the page. Go see--it's there!

What a breathtaking quote. To be begging for bombs.

Of course, this shows the innocent Iraqi citizens trust us. Bless them.
32 posted on 03/22/2003 2:11:23 PM PST by cyncooper ("They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom")
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To: cyncooper
How predictable that the real story is "buried" in the article. Typical, but representative of how we need to dig for the real news. I wonder if we'll ever hear those videos. This needs to get out!
33 posted on 03/22/2003 2:50:27 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: Cicero
The link is correct. It is the DeBorchgrave story that I was referring to - the paragraph that I pulled was toward the middle of the story:

Lucky Break for Jordan
By Arnaud de Borchgrave
UPI Editor at Large
From the International Desk
Published 3/21/2003 2:46 PM


AMMAN, Jordan, March 21 (UPI) -- An unintended coalition of U.S. air power and Baghdad taxi drivers kept a potential flood of Iraqi refugees away from the Jordanian border Friday. The U.N. refugee agency and the Jordanian government were expecting a quarter of million people to stream across the border. Jordan is already home for 400,000 Iraqi refugees from the first Gulf War.

U.S. fighter bombers took out the only gas station between Baghdad and the border, a distance of 600 kilometers. The one-camel village of Ramadi was also the only phone booth on the desert road and a Jordanian was killed by the explosion of the gas station while making a call to his parents in Amman to let them know he was on his way home.

At the same time, the few taxi drivers in Baghdad willing to run the risk of making it to the Jordanian border are charging $1,500 per passenger. Very few Iraqis can afford the fare. As a result, only some 300 TCNs (Third Country Nationals) reached the border post since the bombing started. They were mostly Sudanese and Egyptians. There were no Iraqis among them. They had to hump their luggage 1.8 miles across no-man's-land on foot to Al Karama, the first Jordanian outpost. From there, they were bused to the tent city at the Ruwaished refugee camp, 36 miles inside Jordan.

The Sudanese and Egyptian governments agreed to pay for Jordanian Airlines charters to fly their nationals home.

A group of American anti-war demonstrators who came to Iraq with Japanese human shield volunteers made it across the border today with 14 hours of uncensored video, all shot without Iraqi government minders present. Kenneth Joseph, a young American pastor with the Assyrian Church of the East, told UPI the trip "had shocked me back to reality." Some of the Iraqis he interviewed on camera "told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start. They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny. They convinced me that Saddam was a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his sons are sick sadists. Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so they could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head."

Iran informed the UN refugee agency Friday that it now has 3,000 Iraqi refugees. Syria said its numbers were "insignificant." The picture could change for the worse as the United States steps up the bombing of Baghdad with a "shock and awe" campaign designed to stun and collapse what's left of the regime. Acute food shortages are expected before U.S. troops liberate Baghdad. U.N. officials in the Iraqi capital radioed today that some 500 disadvantaged children were suffering from malnutrition and they were rounding whatever supplies they could find.

Prior to the war, some 700 tanker trucks shuttled daily between both countries. Jordan consumes 12,000 tons of oil a day. All of it comes from Iraq at discounted prices under the U.N. oil-for-food program. Some 2,600 and 1,500 Iraqi tankers have been involved in the overland oil traffic. Movement was down to 140 tankers the day before the bombing started. It stopped abruptly two days ago.

Jordan had made plans for a quick switch to tankers anchored off Aqaba. Qatar had pledged to replace whatever shortfall Jordan experienced.

Jordanians see a good omen in the daily arrival of almost 1,000 white storks. They alight near the Safeway on one of Amman's seven hills, a pit stop on their way from Africa to their east European breeding grounds. About 100,000 storks are expected at the Safeway for the next month, numbers not seen in 10 years, and a sign of ample rain and a good harvest.

The official and private views of some ranking Jordanian officials appear to be diametrically opposed. Officially, they condemn the war and say they are "deeply troubled" about the repercussions of the war on the region, and describe the situation as "critical."

Privately, and not for attribution, they say the United States is developing a new opportunity for the Middle East. Said one former prime minister, "If the U.S. can get a new Iraq to recognize Israel as a quid pro quo for a final Palestinian settlement, others will fall into place -- Syria, Saudi Arabia, and the other Gulf states. Iran would then have to pull back its military support for Hezbollah."

Another prominent Jordanian voice said that while Iraq has created a rift between America and its allies, and in Europe itself, the Palestine question -- provided President Bush is serious about a settlement roadmap, without either side allowed to nickel and dime it to oblivion -- could be a reconciling factor. Which all sides now need." The official consensus is that the United States can win wars on its own. But it cannot win the peace. A former foreign minister said, "I can only hope that the $10 billion the U.S. now plans to provide Israel will have a geopolitical price tag."



Copyright © 2001-2003 United Press International
34 posted on 03/22/2003 6:11:51 PM PST by rocky88
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To: rocky88
A big fat I TOLD YOU SO to these idiots!
35 posted on 03/22/2003 6:21:05 PM PST by admiralsn (It's time for them to go.)
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To: rocky88
Waitng to see Peter Jennings interview the guy.... Oh wait I just got my on dose of reality.
36 posted on 03/22/2003 6:24:05 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Kira-USA; wayne_shrugged
Good Read
37 posted on 03/22/2003 7:52:46 PM PST by LibertyThug
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To: LibertyThug
Liberty Thug Bump~!
38 posted on 03/23/2003 11:01:34 PM PST by wayne_shrugged
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