(Informative!) Soldier suspected of deadly grenade attack had California ties

RENO ^ | 3/23/2003 11:30 pm | Associated Press

[dennisw]

The soldier being held in a deadly grenade attack on a 101st Airborne Division command center in Kuwait spent much of his youth in California and was described by family and friends Sunday as a brilliant student and mild-mannered practicing Muslim.

[Grampa Dave]

Calypso Louie hasn't made many trips to the Middle East to personally pick up the vast sums of Opecker Blood Money to keep his NOI Mosques open.

If and when we as Americans get the funding data from the Opecker Thugs like Saddam and the murdering mullahs of Iran, which enabled the Black Muslims to open and keep open centers of hate. We will see some appalling data and dots being collected.

Every major prison in America has Black Muslim Chaplins recruiting the worse of the worse in the prisons. Those Chaplins are paid for with our tax $'s. The night we heard of this grenade attack, a former secretary of one of the military branches said that a large # of Muslim Chaplins in the Army were Wahhabi Muslims. Wahhabis might make Calypso Louie look like a moderate.

The good news is that by seizing control of the oil stations in Iraq, the funds sent by the thugs of Iraq to the Black Muslims is gone. After we or the good people in Iraq whack the top 50 Murdering Mullans in charge of that country, even more money for the Black Muslims will disappear.

Stop our state and federal tax $'s from being used to pay Black Muslim Chaplins to recruit and preach hate America in our prisons will have even more of reduction of these Jihads in America.

After we stopped the Charter School Money for the al Fuqra training camp near Fresno, California, it closed up. It is no longer used as a training ground to train al Fuqras to kill and hate Americans.

[templar]

I hate to say it, but this guy sounds like a classic affirmative action case. 1988 to 1997 to get two highly technical degrees from the University of California because he kept dropping out and being re-admitted?

I don't know ... maybe that's normal in California nowdays.

[MissAmericanPie]

Just keep clicking your red shoes together and repeating "diversity is our strength".

[dennisw]

Good LA Times article on Bilal Islamic Center (An except, go to URLs for complete story)

http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-013002muslims.story

http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:KTRKEQDVVQgC:www.latimes.com/
features/lifestyle/la-013002muslims.story+%22Bilal+Islamic+Center%22++&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

 

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, such differences have taken on new significance. Ironically, the increasing attention on Muslims in America has left many African American Muslims feeling marginalized. "We share the faith with immigrant Muslims, but not much else," says Abdul Karim Hasan, (Hasan seems to be Black American)  Bilal's director. "For African American Muslims, the priorities are economic justice, education and service to humanity at the street level in our country. We don't make decisions based on what is good for Pakistan, Afghanistan or the Middle East."

Indeed, after the service, there was a call for volunteers to help at a Skid Row shelter and for recruits to teach Islam to women in prison. There was also an update on legendary boxer Muhammad Ali, who has not yet announced whether he will accept an invitation to represent American Muslims in a public service video to be distributed in the Middle East as part of Hollywood's response to terrorism.

Founded in the early '50s, the Bilal Center offers a clear example of ways that African American Muslims blend their religious convictions with their mission to the community around them. Hasan, who was honored by the Los Angeles City Council last fall for his years of service to the community, says African Americans proved themselves long ago to be good Muslims and good Americans. They are accepted around the world as members of the faith, he says, but since the terrorist attacks on the U.S., Islam in America has become synonymous with Arab Muslims, and he believes people curious about the faith are getting the wrong impression.

Photos   A ring connotes the faith. (CLARENCE WILLIAMS / Los Angeles Times)     Congregants at Bilal (CLARENCE WILLIAMS / Los Angeles Times)

[cynicom]

Middle name of "Fidel"????? Flag there somewhere.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for the links.

[dennisw]

Here's one more:

http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:cnljMZnyLL8C:www.pluralism.org/
news/index.php%3Fxref%3DMuslims%2BReach%2BOut+%22Abdul+Karim+Hasan%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

 

Voices of African American Muslims After September 11
Follow this story: In the Wake of September 11  

• On January 30, 2002, The Los Angeles Times featured the story "One Faith, Two Minds; Feeling snubbed by Muslim immigrants who are defining the faith for the U.S. public, African American Muslims are calling attention to the way they, too, practice their beliefs." The article reported, "the increasing attention on Muslims in America has left many African American Muslims feeling marginalized. ... 'Those who are making the most noise right now aren't speaking for all Muslims... When it comes to how Islam is actually practiced here, we African American Muslims know more about it than anyone,'" says Abdul Karim Hasan, director of L.A.'s Bilal Center. The article continued, "'African Americans prove that Islam is not antithetical to democracy or to America,' says Imam Faheem Shuaibe, director of the predominantly African American Masjidul Waritheen ... He says Sept. 11 'put the conversation on the table' for all American Muslims. His side of the conversation comes down to this: 'When you're presenting a message about Islam in America, don't exclude me. African American Muslims have led the way at integrating Muslims into American society.'"
(January 30, 2002, The Los Angeles Times, Online)
Read the full story

(Link is dead)

[Grampa Dave]

Re the name Fidel. Many of the super dysfunctional families which have become NOI/Black Muslims came from the Black Panthers. They often named their children after anti Americans like Fidel or butchers like Patrice Lubooma (Spelling). One of the Portland 6 al Qaedas came from a Black Panther family and was named after the African Butcher.

[cynicom]

Time will tell if indeed there was hate for America, long before his Muslim ties. I suspicion the hatred has been there a long time.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks!

[Atlas Sneezed]

Ping

[Grampa Dave]

The hatred of America enables the Muslim chaplins to recruit these Jihadists in America.

[Grampa Dave]

FYI re the grenade tosser and his religion of hate.

[dljordan]

I was wondering the same thing myself. Maybe he's one of those social promotion "geniuses" that we have been turning out. Something is not right about his story.

[aristeides]

Rather, it has tortured that credo to one stating the exact opposite: "E Unum Pluribus (From One, Many)."

Allow me to correct your Latin: "Ex Uno Plura (From One, Many)."

[Bernard Marx]

Just keep clicking your red shoes together and repeating "diversity is our strength".

Love it! Isn't it odd, though, that it was so easy to propagandize a civil-rights/Vietnam-shocked populace into giving up "unity," the jewel of the American idea? Divide and conquer.

But as news of this atrocity gets around to other fighting units in Iraq, I've been wondering what's going on in the heads of soldiers who have muslims in their ranks. I'd be a little uneasy if I had a Calypso Louie-style name.

[dogbyte12]

Didn't the D.C. Sniper have ties to baton rouge as well? What are the odds on that?

[browardchad]

What kind of American names her kid, "Fidel"???

Someone who admires Castro, as a wild guess. Mama Kool sounds like a piece of work, and junior is apparently the fruit of the poison tree.

This is going to be a long and tough war against terrorists and terrorist sympathizers. If the Army doesn't start serious security checks on new recruits, and keep a short leash on Muslim servicemen who act erratically, this will happen again. Better to err on the side of caution -- and a kid with a middle legal name of "Fidel" and an alternate Muslim name should send up an immediate warning flag.

[oleboubh]

The problem is the equal opportunity program in the military and paticularly in the army. Leaders can't get rid of these guys because they will make an EO complaint. The system nearly always burns the accused individual regardless of the sitchuation. Leaders are labelled as rascists, sexist, or religeous discriminaters when they try to eliminate these useless, dangerous, pathetic soldiers.

[ought-six]

Geez, you are nitpicking. No wonder Latin's a dead language. I took it in high school some 35 years ago. Sorry I can't remember all the small details.