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Will American Administration Declare War on Russia?
Pravda ^
| 3/24/3
| Vasily Buslayev
Posted on 03/24/2003 1:31:32 PM PST by WaveThatFlag
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To: WaveThatFlag
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posted on
03/24/2003 1:44:16 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(http://www.politicsandprotest.org/attack.swf)
To: D Rider
The Russians seem determined to be on the wrong side of history....again.
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posted on
03/24/2003 1:45:09 PM PST
by
Mr. Mojo
To: BrooklynGOP
Declare war? Heck no. We've already sent you enough money to rebuild your infrastructure, why would we want to do that again? Besides, it all winds up in ex-KGB pockets anyway.
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posted on
03/24/2003 1:45:10 PM PST
by
OpusatFR
(Free Speech means you can talk and I can criticize! It doesn't mean you talk and I shut up!)
To: WaveThatFlag
If we continue to target Islam, then Russia, China and even France will probably follow. The French fear their Muslim population, (nearly 6 million strong) and the Russians and Chinese are constantly at odds with Muslims in their countries.
To: AdamSelene235
"To hell with the mongoloid Russians. You give me 24 hours and I'll have a war with those sumbitches and make it look like their fault!"George C. Scott as PATTON.
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posted on
03/24/2003 1:45:16 PM PST
by
sinkspur
To: WaveThatFlag
Um, the US, Britian, Spain, Italy, Japan, and Eastern Europe would be more than a match for Russia, France, Germany, and China.India and Pakistan would take different sides. Terrorists all over the world would see an opportunity to strike. North Korea would probably go south. South America could just stay out of it and become stronger, less dependent on the US, and more unified.
Are you really sure anyone fighting that extended war would be better off for it?
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posted on
03/24/2003 1:45:23 PM PST
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: Lady Heron
Agreed. But in the words of Springield Mayor "Diamond" Jow Quimby, "Don't write checks your ass can't catch!"
To: WaveThatFlag
This is likely to provoke the collapse of the antiterrorist coalition, terrorist activities in the USA and in Great Britain might increase, arms race is likely to speed up, including the weapons of mass destruction race. Ecological catastrophes are likely to happen in the world as well. And asteroid collisions. Don't forget the asteroid collisions.
To: BrooklynGOP; Stavka2
This is all just a bunch of hype.
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posted on
03/24/2003 1:48:27 PM PST
by
MarMema
To: BrooklynGOP
If the Iraqis wanted to attack Moscow, the Russkies would not be able to stop them.
To: WaveThatFlag
"It is obvious today that the war in Iraq is not the kind of war that the American administration was intended to have. The strong resistance that Iraqi troops showed, Iraqi ABM systems and anti-tank facilities turned out to be an unexpected surprise for Americans."
?????????
So??? They didn't surrender. In one week Saddam will be toast, if not already.
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posted on
03/24/2003 1:52:45 PM PST
by
ZULU
To: WaveThatFlag
The strong resistance that Iraqi troops showed, Iraqi ABM systems and anti-tank facilities turned out to be an unexpected surprise for Americans.
1. RPGs are widespread. Effective against the Marine LAV (depends on armour package), slightly effective against the Bradley, and extremly ineffective against an M1-A1. Add on armour packages, such as Applique and Reactive armour, further negates the effectiveness of an RPG.
RPGs are not surprises. They are expected. Russia has sold these alllll over the world, in every corner possible.
2. As far as anti-tank facilities, the only thing capable of taking out our frontline (M1-A2) tanks are probably mines and aircraft-launched missles. Shoulder fired missiles won't cut it. There isn't a portable production missle in the world that can penetrate the DU/Chobram armour. (Not yet at least) Might chew up treads, but won't hurt the crew.
3. As far as ABM goes, they don't have one. GPS jammers don't work. Their range is too limited. By the time the JDAMS are within their jamming capability (1-2km) they have been guided on an extremely good trajectory. Internal navigation will guide them to the destination targets with extreme accuracy.
The jammers obviously haven't worked against the Tomahawks either. Too many Tomahawks have found their targets. If they didn't, they'd be hitting residences in Baghdad instead of military complexes. If nothing else, the jammers have probably increased the accuracy! (Just kidding.)
An "official" war won't result between the USA and Russia. M.A.D. still prevents that. It's just the typical underhanded attempts at undermining us. It's like a very low level war, except it isn't "cold" anymore.
To: WaveThatFlag
This article is consistent with what some of my contacts, who have friends and family in Russia, say about the rising tide of anti-American propaganda there. They will also tell you that it's all about the money and oil. They, as you, know that Russia's about to lose a valued customer in Saddam. What they don't yet understand is that he really wasn't that good a customer and certainly not one they should have invested in.
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posted on
03/24/2003 1:56:08 PM PST
by
pt17
To: pt17
A poll in the same paper claims that 80% of Russians want the US to lose the war to Iraq. This may or may not be true. Pravda is the most inappropriately named paper in the world. In the past it has posted front page interviews with alien visitors...
Comment #35 Removed by Moderator
To: bassmaner
In the long run, our interests and Russia's will convergeThey do right now, except the old Communist dinosaurs in Putin's cabinet can't abide their waning geopolitical importance. What can you do when nostalgia rules over rationality?
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Comment #38 Removed by Moderator
To: ZULU
It is obvious today that the war in Iraq is not the kind of war that the American administration was intended to have. The strong resistance that Iraqi troops showed, Iraqi ABM systems and anti-tank facilities turned out to be an unexpected surprise for Americans.
Hmmmm ABM system you say let's find out how well it works. We have not used any BM that I know of yet other than possibly their talking about the MLRS.
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posted on
03/24/2003 2:02:37 PM PST
by
Kadric
To: kolja2003
His Defense chief is older than Putin, I believe.. Besides, its old "thinking", and lapsed Communist Party membership, etc I refer to. Nostalgia for the '80's.
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