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Killing Pablo
Philly.com ^ | Posted on Tue, Nov. 20, 2001 | Phiily.com

Posted on 03/25/2003 9:27:47 AM PST by Hacksaw

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To: tpaine
You don't remember the Chicken Little story from your first childhood?
381 posted on 03/28/2003 12:48:31 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Subsequent USSC decisions reaffirmed the constitutionality of the 'right' to get an abortion; none denied it.

Even Roe itself didn't go that far.

"We, therefore, conclude that the right of personal privacy includes the abortion decision, but that this right is not unqualified and must be considered against important state interests in regulation."

Are you ever right about anything?

Did I say "the unqualified 'right' to get an abortion", or do you prefer flailing straw men to addressing what I actually posted?

382 posted on 03/28/2003 7:17:59 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: MrLeRoy
Did I say "the unqualified 'right' to get an abortion"

No, you've been both vague and dishonest.

To review:

1. Would you like to make the argument that every court that has ever considered the question of the constitutionality of Roe v Wade was wrong?

2. no other court can consider the question of the constitutionality of Roe v Wade.

383 posted on 03/28/2003 8:06:02 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Juan diversified.

That must be the new blend of coffee my manager drinks before he issues a project plan.

384 posted on 03/28/2003 12:52:18 PM PST by Hacksaw (She's not that kind of girl, Booger.)
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To: Physicist
I see. You're saying it's a matter of degree. If Capone had done those things, then drinking would be wrong.

No, what I am saying is that Capone/Escobar it is a bad comparison. But I would suspect that if Capone was as violent as Escobar, overturning prohibition would have been much more difficult than it was, and Capone would not have enjoyed his Jesse James anti hero type status. Even the Cosa Nostra has a code of honor - the cartels have none.

385 posted on 03/30/2003 2:22:32 PM PST by Hacksaw (She's not that kind of girl, Booger.)
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To: toothless
Wait nevermind, your example is bogus.

I don't think so. Laws against prostitution do not create pimps. Laws against bank robbing do not create the safe crackers. These people have made their own free choice to violate the laws.

386 posted on 03/30/2003 2:27:01 PM PST by Hacksaw (She's not that kind of girl, Booger.)
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To: Hacksaw
But I would suspect that if Capone was as violent as Escobar, overturning prohibition would have been much more difficult than it was,

The question of how hard alcohol or cocaine prohibition is to overturn is quite apart from the question of whether it is right or wrong. If Capone were as violent as Escobar, would that make alcohol consumption morally wrong, and if the cocaine cartels weren't so violent, would you accept the legalization of cocaine?

387 posted on 03/30/2003 2:37:53 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
If Capone were as violent as Escobar, would that make alcohol consumption morally wrong, and if the cocaine cartels weren't so violent, would you accept the legalization of cocaine?

Yes, if illegally purchased alcohol funded terror, it would be ceratinly wrong. For your answer to the 2nd question, mine is no - I support keeping it illegal.

388 posted on 03/30/2003 5:19:49 PM PST by Hacksaw (She's not that kind of girl, Booger.)
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To: Hacksaw
Yes, if illegally purchased alcohol funded terror, it would be ceratinly wrong.

So at some level, you do seem to understand that it would be the illegality of the act that would enable it to fund terror. You carefully phrased your statement to avoid the absurdity of the phrase "if legally purchased alcohol funded terror".

Now, why do you think it's any different in the case of cocaine?

389 posted on 03/30/2003 5:35:39 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Hacksaw
Laws against prostitution do not create pimps.

Laws against prostitution create the circumstances in which pimping can happen. If prostitution was legal, prostitutes would have legal recourse against violence from their pimps and against the other violence from which a pimp protects them.

390 posted on 03/31/2003 6:15:02 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Physicist
So at some level, you do seem to understand that it would be the illegality of the act that would enable it to fund terror. You carefully phrased your statement to avoid the absurdity of the phrase "if legally purchased alcohol funded terror". Now, why do you think it's any different in the case of cocaine?

I have gone into why I am against drugs on other threads - I would rather not on this one because I was hoping it could stick to Escobar and Columbia. I lkeave it with the fact that we have enough problems with alcohol.

Now then, my furnace quit on me (and of course it is snowing now) so as the new "kinder and gentler" Hacksaw I will say that I respect your position but my mind is pretty much made up. Ever have to type with gloves :)

391 posted on 03/31/2003 9:38:00 AM PST by Hacksaw
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