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If the Dixie Chicks had been rockin' babes ...(Choke on your vomit alert!!)
Houston Chronicle ^ | March 24, 2003 | Tamara Conniff

Posted on 03/25/2003 12:27:06 PM PST by Houmatt

Sheryl Crow wore a white T-shirt emblazoned with "War Is Not the Answer" when she accepted her American Music Award in January. Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst was received with cheers when he said, "This war has got to go away as soon as possible" during the Grammy telecast. But when Natalie Maines of the country music trio the Dixie Chicks said from a London stage that she was "ashamed" that President Bush was from Texas, the result was quite different.

Angry fans flooded radio stations in San Diego, Nashville and Dallas with calls demanding that the Dixie Chicks' music be removed from playlists. Many fans-turned-enemies burned posters, and one group of protesters in Louisiana mounted a 33,000-pound tractor and ran over CDs.

First, Maines tried to explain herself. But anti-Chicks warriors continued to destroy CDs, so she took a deep breath and issued a formal apology to Bush, proclaiming that she was "proud to be an American." But South Carolina legislators were not swayed; they passed a resolution asking that the Dixie Chicks apologize directly to South Carolinians and play a free concert for the troops.

No one is mad at Sheryl Crow. No one is burning Limp Bizkit posters. It appears that San Diego, Nashville and Dallas care not at all about the opinion of America's rock stars. But apparently country music and its idols have a duty to be patriotic.

While rock music has its roots in rebellion, country music comes from a storytelling tradition. Considered to be white Anglo-Celtic ethnic music, country was born in the southern Appalachians during the late 19th century; its role was to depict rural life and its hardships. Patriotism stemmed from the fact that people there lived off the fruit of the land; America was feeding them.

While the northern part of the United States continued to industrialize during the early 20th century, the South remained agricultural and politically conservative. Country music then became a reflection of Southerners' desire to preserve their culture and core values: love your country, love God, love your family.

The easy argument to make is that country music fans are patriotic because they're uneducated, poor, white rednecks and hillbillies who don't know any better. This stereotype is justified for some, but not all. According to market research, they are indeed overwhelmingly white but have an average household income of $50,000, and 77 percent of them own homes.

Being patriotic is also an identity, a badge that country music devotees wear proudly. The more patriotic the better. Take honky-tonk country star Toby Keith's Sept. 11-inspired hit song, Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue (The Angry American. Fans embraced the song's lyrics, especially the verses: "You'll be sorry that you messed with the US of A / Cuz we'll put a boot in your ass / It's the American Way."

Country fans want their music to tell tales about their woes, their heartaches, their anger. Keith wasn't being political; he was just mad.

Country enthusiasts don't like their music mixed with politics, but for some reason they do embrace sad tunes about soldiers dying for the United States.

The Dixie Chicks' song Travelin' Soldier, about a boy who goes to Vietnam and never comes back, follows in the tradition of such classics as Jimmie Rogers' The Soldier's Sweetheart and Loretta Lynn's Dear Uncle Sam.

Aren't these antiwar songs? For Northern liberal Democrats, they are. But for Southern Republicans, dying for your country is patriotic; it's noble.

Of course, now anti-Chicks activists are claiming the trio didn't actually write Travelin' Soldier. How could they -- anti-American heathens that they are?

Sadly, those who shun the Dixie Chicks have become exactly what they say they are not: anti-American. By burning CDs and posters and throwing verbal stones at Maines, they are violating her most important right and the foundation of this country -- her freedom of speech.


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1 posted on 03/25/2003 12:27:06 PM PST by Houmatt
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To: Houmatt
If it wasn't for the song "Landslide," many would not know what the Dixies Chicks actually sing.
2 posted on 03/25/2003 12:32:24 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Bundgaard for AZ Gov.)
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To: Houmatt
No one shut her up. People simply expressed themselves. Free expression works for all sides.
3 posted on 03/25/2003 12:32:45 PM PST by MEG33
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To: hsmomx3
I always thought it was pretty telling that of all the classic country songs that could have been done as a re-make... that they made their big song on the country charts from a re-make of a Fleetwood Mac song.
5 posted on 03/25/2003 12:34:11 PM PST by kjam22
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To: Houmatt
By burning CDs and posters and throwing verbal stones at Maines, they are violating her most important right and the foundation of this country -- her freedom of speech.

Retarded reasoning. Anti-Blixie Chicks remarks are anti-American, but anti-Bush remarks by the Blixie Chicks are free speech?

6 posted on 03/25/2003 12:35:31 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Houmatt
I'm STILL trying to figure out if Miss Piggy is talking about the space between her ears or her legs when she sings Wide Open Spaces...no one seems to know.
7 posted on 03/25/2003 12:37:56 PM PST by attydjv
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To: hsmomx3
Landslide made it to pop rock stations, but were are quite popular before that. Their mistake was slamming Bush on foreign soil.
8 posted on 03/25/2003 12:39:29 PM PST by boxerblues (God bless the 101st and keep them safe)
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To: Houmatt
By burning CDs and posters and throwing verbal stones at Maines, they are violating her most important right and the foundation of this country -- her freedom of speech.

If you truly don't understand a subject, it's best not to write about it in a newspaper.

9 posted on 03/25/2003 12:40:20 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Houmatt
She's still short, fat and stupid.
10 posted on 03/25/2003 12:43:13 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Houmatt
Another Northeaste leftwing radical reporter in the camp of the Houston Chronicle. There were some enlightning comments though, even if the reported didn't realize the truth when it struck him in the face!

"Aren't these antiwar songs? For Northern liberal Democrats, they are. But for Southern Republicans, dying for your country is patriotic; it's noble."

That, to the reporter, was meant to be derrogatory. Why? They have no idea of the meaning of HONOR, NOBILITY, MORALITY, RIGHT, WRONG.

11 posted on 03/25/2003 12:44:33 PM PST by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Typical Houston Chronicle writer. One of the most leftist papers in all the land.
12 posted on 03/25/2003 12:44:35 PM PST by In God I trust
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Apparently, Tamara Conniff believes that the angry fans of the Dixie Chicks are Congress, and that the fans have made a law abridging the Chicks' freedom of speech... ;-)
13 posted on 03/25/2003 12:47:22 PM PST by an amused spectator (Saddemocrat Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle)
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To: Houmatt
The Ditzy Chicks first entered the geopolitical commentary when they slammed Toby Keith's song, The Angry American, shortly after release.

Their fans gave them a pass on those comments, but this time is different. The main reason they're catching so much grief is that they've built a fan base of patriotic Americans feigning love of country and respect for the military with songs like Travelin' Soldier.

Country Music, as a sort of mainstream subculture, has always projected patriotism. Long before 9/11, fans jammed into concerts by the likes of country superstars Brooks and Dunn--waving flags and singing along with songs like Only In America...

The Chicks exercised their right to free speech, but in doing so, if nothing else, they violated a simple rule of business: Do not insult your customers. (In politics: Don't alienate your base.)

14 posted on 03/25/2003 12:47:32 PM PST by ElephantMan
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To: Houmatt
By burning CDs and posters and throwing verbal stones at Maines, they are violating her most important right and the foundation of this country -- her freedom of speech.

I wish people who choose to talk about 'free speech' had ANY idea what it's all about. Conniff has demonstrated herself an ignorant dolt.

Word to Tamara -- customers burning and crushing Dixie Chicks CDs IS freedom of speech, and it doesn't infringe on Maines' free speech ONE IOTA.

Who gave this idiot a column in the first place? Ugh.

15 posted on 03/25/2003 12:47:35 PM PST by zoyd
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To: Houmatt
"Sadly, those who shun the Dixie Chicks have become exactly what they say they are not: anti-American. By burning CDs and posters and throwing verbal stones at Maines, they are violating her most important right and the foundation of this country -- her freedom of speech."

Sadly, this jerk has it wrong.

No Tamara Conniff, no ones violating the Dixie Chicks or Maines's "free speech".

She or they can say whatever bilge comes to their simple socialist minds.

Americans don't have to buy their albums, and should they own any, they may do whatever they like with them.

Now go take a bath. You're starting to smell bad.

16 posted on 03/25/2003 12:47:52 PM PST by G.Mason (Lessons of life needn't be fatal)
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To: Houmatt
Is there an e-mail where this person may be contacted?
17 posted on 03/25/2003 12:49:31 PM PST by elephant
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To: Houmatt

18 posted on 03/25/2003 12:50:30 PM PST by mhking
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To: Houmatt
they are violating her most important right and the foundation of this country -- her freedom of speech.

Wrong--that would be freedom of worship.

19 posted on 03/25/2003 12:51:24 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: ElephantMan
PS:

I should add, the article's author implies a double-standard that Fred Durst's comments were met with cheers. But remember, he was playing to his base, not alienating it.

20 posted on 03/25/2003 12:51:41 PM PST by ElephantMan
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To: In God I trust
I have threatened to cancel time and time again.

But this time, I will not renew.

The liberal democrates that run this piece of crap they call a newspaper have supported our 'affirmative action' mayor for 6 yrs along with the city's 'affirmative action' chief-of-police. The city is in the worst shape since I can remember and the crime lab scandal will result in multitudes of appeals in the courts.

Yet The Comical supports a recall of term-limits and has bashed President Bush every chance it gets!!

I can't wait till I get a call asking why I cancelled.

21 posted on 03/25/2003 12:53:54 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: hsmomx3
That didn't take long! I was waiting for some leftist moron to make the illogical leap that it was actually UnAmerican to not support people that you don't agree with.

They are so predictable.
22 posted on 03/25/2003 12:54:24 PM PST by LaraCroft ('Bout time)
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To: G.Mason
Liberal forget that yes, you have a right to free speech, but you will also reap what those words bring.

Most Liberals don't work for a living so it surprises them that business would suffer just for speaking one's mind.

24 posted on 03/25/2003 12:59:12 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Houmatt
Surprsed they arent doing a benefit for the Wahhabi Lobby or the Home For Old Republican Guard Members
25 posted on 03/25/2003 1:00:16 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: boxerblues
Bingo. Pandering to anti-Americanism is shameless.
26 posted on 03/25/2003 1:00:40 PM PST by big gray tabby
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To: Houmatt
"Fred Durst was received with cheers when he said, "This war has got to go away as soon as possible" during the Grammy telecast".

"Got to go away as soon as possible"? Is war a cold or a case of the "sniffles"? We're not treating an anxiety disorder with Zoloft, we're fighting a real war with real men and women and real weaponry with a real strategy.

she took a deep breath and issued a formal apology to Bush, proclaiming that she was "proud to be an American."

Right -- about as much as she's proud to be a Texan.

27 posted on 03/25/2003 1:01:31 PM PST by tuna_battle_slight_return
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To: big gray tabby
It seems that certain entertainment types still have a very over-blown opinion of their own worth in the political arena. Our most recent foot in mouth award goes to one Natalie Maines of the Country Group “The Dixie Chicks”. During a concert in London Ms. Maines behooved herself of her rights to free speech and launched a very public tirade against President Bush. Her remarks that “…We are ashamed that President Bush is from Texas”, lead to an overwhelming backlash from pro-Bush supporters as well as fans that disagree with Ms. Maines choice of words and the venue in which she chose to utter them; a foreign country.

When the controversy first got started Ms. Maines chose to defend her attack on President Bush as “free speech” but as the wildfire started to rage across the land and radio stations began to pull “The Dixie Chicks” music from their rotations Ms. Maines ‘decided’ that her remarks where less than appropriate. Ms. Maines said in a statement released by her representatives that she was ‘sorry for her comments’ and that ‘anyone who held the office of President of the United States was worthy of respect.’

One can’t help but be amazed by entertainment types and their propensity for opening their mouths and sticking their foot in it up to their ankles. One also wonders at the sincerity of an apology issued in the face of a growing national boycott of all things “Dixie”. Has Ms. Maines truly seen the error of her ways and learned that disrespectful comments about an extremely popular President, while protected under free speech rights, often carry larger consequences. Perhaps Ms. Maines has learned that a large flag waving fan base also has the ability to carry a very big stick.

While I will defend Ms. Maines right to disagree with our Presidents policy, and as a former Army man and current member of the American Legion I have done so, I will remind Ms. Maines that the right to “Free Speech” is not a “right” to have others agree with you, nor does it, in any way, absolve you from having to accept the responsibility for your words and actions. When you do unpopular things you must be prepared to face negative reactions. This is not censorship Ms. Maines; this is simply other citizen's exercising their right to “Free Speech” by telling you loudly and clearly to just Shut Up!!!

28 posted on 03/25/2003 1:08:11 PM PST by The_Pickle ("We have no Permanent Allies, We have no Permanent Enemies, Only Permanent Interests")
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To: elephant
She apparently works for the Hollywood Reporter.

This is the best I could come up with:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hollywoodreporter/info/contact.jsp

29 posted on 03/25/2003 1:21:22 PM PST by Houmatt (You will chop down the mightiest tree in the forest with.....a herring!)
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To: elephant
And there is this.
30 posted on 03/25/2003 1:26:09 PM PST by Houmatt (You will chop down the mightiest tree in the forest with.....a herring!)
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To: Houmatt
The Chicks did an ad layout for PETA, and have backed out on it being released. In other words, they don't want you to voice your opinion by choosing whose music you listen to, but they want to tell you what to choose when buying clothing.
31 posted on 03/25/2003 1:33:12 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Houmatt
If the Dixie Chicks had been rockin' babes ...

Yeah, and if Bill Clinton had been a conservative Republican...

32 posted on 03/25/2003 1:34:53 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Houmatt
By burning CDs and posters and throwing verbal stones at Maines, they are violating her most important right and the foundation of this country -- her freedom of speech.

Amazing. Our exercise of our freedom of speech is a violation of Maines's freedom of speech. Few liberals are this blunt with their double standard.

33 posted on 03/25/2003 1:37:15 PM PST by dirtboy (Rally For America - Steps of PA State Capitol, Harrisburg - March 29 at high noon)
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To: TexasCajun
TexasCajun do what I did. I cancelled my subscription to the New Orleans Times Picayune and started a monthly donation to FreeRepublic. I get more for my money and I support a great site all at the same time!
34 posted on 03/25/2003 1:44:34 PM PST by betsyross
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To: Houmatt
Of course, now anti-Chicks activists are claiming the trio didn't actually write Travelin' Soldier. How could they -- anti-American heathens that they are?

Man, this author is a moron. It's not a matter of people "claiming" that the Chicks didn't write this; the Dixie Chicks don't write ANY of their songs!

35 posted on 03/25/2003 1:46:49 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
They DIDN'T write Travelin Soldier
36 posted on 03/25/2003 1:48:23 PM PST by pnz1
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To: Houmatt
Country music then became a reflection of Southerners'(and all Americans') desire to preserve their culture and core values: love your country, love God, love your family

Uh Ms. Conniff, what the hell is wrong with that?

37 posted on 03/25/2003 1:49:30 PM PST by Dane
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To: Houmatt
Just read over my reply #37. It was directed at the writer of the article and not you.
38 posted on 03/25/2003 1:54:42 PM PST by Dane
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To: Houmatt
By burning CDs and posters and throwing verbal stones at Maines, they are violating her most important right and the foundation of this country -- her freedom of speech.

Wrongo!

By burning CDs and posters and throwing verbal stones at Maines, they are violating exercising their most important right and the foundation of this country -- their freedom of speech.

39 posted on 03/25/2003 1:55:39 PM PST by southern rock
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To: hsmomx3
If it wasn't for so called "News Channels" putting her fat arse on the T.V. everytime she hacks out another note, I wouldn't know what she sings either.

And I wish they'd keep all the other so-call "stars" off the T.V. whenever a charge of electricity happens to pass by one of their brain cells.

40 posted on 03/25/2003 2:00:20 PM PST by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: Houmatt
For Northern liberal Democrats, they are.

Northern liberal Democrats caused the fiasco in Vietnam. I lost a cousin and a friend. And another walks around with only one leg.

The Chicks as well as other artists who USE their celebrity to push their agenda, deserve everything they get. They were MADE by the public, and can quickly be UNMADE by the public.

BTW, who are the Dixie Chicks? (/sarcasm)

41 posted on 03/25/2003 2:02:28 PM PST by ThomasMore ([1 Pet 3:15-16])
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To: Houmatt
Kid Rock said it best when he said that he "supports our troops and our government, but is not entitled to give political opinions." Celebrity status does not give one the right to use that status to push political agendas.

We pay them for entertainment, not their high-scool/college drop-out opinions!
42 posted on 03/25/2003 2:14:00 PM PST by Alylonee (HEY PEACENIKS....SMOKE SADDAM, NOT CRACK! - credit another freeper!)
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To: Houmatt
This "reporter" needs to be FReeped! I sent this to the Hollywood reporter email site.

To Tamara Conniff

Your ignorance of what freedom of speech really means is astounding. You claim that Ms. Maines' freedom of speech was violated by radio stations and country music fans who burned her CD's and refused to buy and more. *They* violated Ms.Maines's freedom of speech when they told others not to buy her records or attend her concerts?

The truth of the matter is you are the one insulting the free speech rights of thousands, even millions of Americans stating such leftist, liberal babyfood.

Ms. Maines still has her freedom of speech but the Constitution doesn't guarantee freedom from having to pay the consequences of stupid speech in the market place (or the ballot box, for that matter). Ms. Maines made her bed, now she and her fellow Chicks have to lay in it.

I will also express my freedom of speech by refusing to read any publication that runs your pablum. I don't live in a fascist state like Iraq where people have to put up with paying for speech they don't like. I earn my money, I have the right to spend it where I want. I don't need any liberal pansy to "violate" my freedom of speech by telling me that to be a good American, I must buy the records of people I loathe.

Give me a break.
43 posted on 03/25/2003 2:15:45 PM PST by Tamar1973 (``Often, to be eloquent is to be silent.''--Rock Hudson)
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"Aren't these antiwar songs? For Northern liberal Democrats, they are. But for Southern Republicans, dying for your country is patriotic; it's noble.

Of course, now anti-Chicks activists are claiming the trio didn't actually write Travelin' Soldier. How could they -- anti-American heathens that they are?

Sadly, those who shun the Dixie Chicks have become exactly what they say they are not: anti-American. By burning CDs and posters and throwing verbal stones at Maines, they are violating her most important right and the foundation of this country -- her freedom of speech."

That's because most Southerners like nothing better than a good fight. The Ditzy Chicks are as country as that maggot Michael Moore IMHO and should be treated with equal amounts of disgust.

Yep, she has a right to speak her mind, and we have a right to not buy her product. It's amazing how the limp wristed maggots on the left cry freedom of speech right up until you disagree with them, then they want to shut you up.

Freedom of speech has a price tag. Natalie is now paying the price.

Semper Fi
44 posted on 03/25/2003 2:20:04 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Can't stand rude behavior in a man.... Won't tolerate it.)
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To: Houmatt
Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst was received with cheers when he said, "This war has got to go away as soon as possible"

Actually people laughed when Fred Durstbag said, "I just really hope we're all in agreeance that this war should go away as soon as possible."

Seems someone cut the quote down so he didn't look like a dumbass. They save slips of the tongue for harassing the sitting President.

Of course, there was this rebuttal:

Fred Durst's 'agreeance' OK

But it turns out that Durst has some heavy linguistic hitters on his side. The North American editor of the Oxford English Dictionary told the New York Observer newspaper that "agreeance" is, in fact, a word. "It's in the OED," editor Jesse Sheindler told the paper. "He did use it correctly.

Sheindler said that "agreeance" was an obsolete word, having passed out of circulation by about 1714, but noted that it was still used occasionally -- especially in Australia.

None of the dictionaries sources on Dictionary.com recognized it (in the online capacity). Anything to defend their position. He made a slip of the tongue.

45 posted on 03/25/2003 2:26:13 PM PST by weegee (McCarthy was right, Fight The Red Menace)
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To: Houmatt
Sadly, those who shun the Dixie Chicks have become exactly what they say they are not: anti-American. By burning CDs and posters and throwing verbal stones at Maines, they are violating her most important right and the foundation of this country -- her freedom of speech.

No, no, no, no, no. The author of this spittle-piece doesn't understand freedom of speech. The same freedom that the Ditsy Cluck expressed is the same freedom that people all over the country expressed in saying, "No, we don't want to buy your music, or listen to it."

If the federal govrenment had told he she couldn't say what she said, that would be a violation of her freedom of speech.

46 posted on 03/25/2003 2:26:54 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Houmatt
While the northern part of the United States continued to industrialize during the early 20th century, the South remained agricultural and politically conservative. Country music then became a reflection of Southerners' desire to preserve their culture and core values: love your country, love God, love your family.

So is she admitting that liberals are antiAmerican, antiGod, and against the family structure?

Used to be these were American values, not just for conservatives or Southerners.

47 posted on 03/25/2003 2:33:46 PM PST by weegee (McCarthy was right, Fight The Red Menace)
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To: Houmatt
The easy argument to make is that country music fans are patriotic because they're uneducated, poor, white rednecks and hillbillies who don't know any better. This stereotype is justified for some, but not all.

Taken in concert with her previous statement abour Southerners politics, it is a veiled way of making the Houston Comical's favorite point that Liberals arrive at their positions because they are smart and consider the issues (which coincidently is why they dominate the media and teaching professions) and that Conservatives are dumb as dirt (and racist). The Comical doesn't get any of my money.

I'm of the mind that crappy pop music dominates the charts because the public at large are mindless sheep who don't know better and don't seek out better musical selections from the past century of recorded sound.

The same people that seek out entertainment options based on "Top 10" charts don't formulate their own political positions and are more likely to be swayed by poll numbers and riots in the streets.

48 posted on 03/25/2003 2:38:53 PM PST by weegee (McCarthy was right, Fight The Red Menace)
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To: In God I trust
Conniff is the music editor at the Hollywood Reporter.

The Houston Comical is still a biased joke though.

49 posted on 03/25/2003 2:43:40 PM PST by weegee (McCarthy was right, Fight The Red Menace)
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To: Houmatt
Sheryl Crow wore a white T-shirt emblazoned with "War Is Not the Answer" when she accepted her American Music Award in January. Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst was received with cheers when he said, "This war has got to go away as soon as possible" during the Grammy telecast. But when Natalie Maines of the country music trio the Dixie Chicks said from a London stage that she was "ashamed" that President Bush was from Texas, the result was quite different.

The reason for that Tamara, you idiot, is because Natalie's inane comments were a personal attack on a man with more integrity in his stool than she has in her whole body.


50 posted on 03/25/2003 2:48:09 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ()
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