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Killer-flu a 'white terror': Expert, "It is the worst medical disaster I have ever seen."
Herald Sun ^ | 03-27-03

Posted on 03/26/2003 1:41:52 PM PST by Mother Abigail

Killer-flu a 'white terror': Expert

By Catherine Armitage, Leigh Dayton

The Prince of Wales Hospital, where Dr Chung treats SARS patients, has had 69 medical staff struck down by the illness.

"I feel terrible seeing my colleagues struck down one after another," Dr Chung said. He said one doctor's lung function was "totally destroyed", highlighting the stress such cases cause among professionals.

China admitted yesterday that the number of mainland deaths was almost five times the number previously acknowledged and infections were double the number revealed by officials until now.

Guangdong officials point to news reports that said 24 people had died and 680 had been infected in that city by the end of February. SARS is poorly understood and scientists have yet to nail down its cause.

Chairman of the Communicable Disease Network of Australia David Smith said it was not unlike the beginning of the AIDS epidemic.

As with HIV-AIDS, medical and health professionals were struggling to pin down the infectious organism and must work with "very broad" definitions of the symptoms, Associate Professor Smith said.

Once experts identified the pathogen, along with its origin and behaviour, they would be better able to treat SARS and prevent its spread.

But progress is being made. Experts now know masks, gowns and protective clothing limits the disease's spread.

A World Health Organisation team has arrived in Beijing to help scientists with laboratory work and review evidence linking the Guangdong and Hong Kong outbreaks.

Australia's WHO team leader John Mackenzie, of the University of Queensland, said his Chinese colleagues had provided "very good data" on the Guangdong outbreak between November and February, but there was a "long way to go".

In Australia, three people are under investigation, but so far no cases have been confirmed.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; hongkong; reporting; sars
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1 posted on 03/26/2003 1:41:52 PM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: Mother Abigail
'white terror': isn't that the chinese nickname for caucasians?
2 posted on 03/26/2003 1:45:16 PM PST by WriteOn
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To: WriteOn
Given the origin of this outbreak, I think that "yellow peril" might be more accurate.
3 posted on 03/26/2003 1:48:38 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: Mother Abigail

WHO hoped further tests over the next couple of weeks would determine whether one was the culprit, whether it was a combination of both or if their presence was just a coincidence.

And an effective treatment is still lacking. Although some hospitals had been using the antiviral drug Ribavirin, Salter said that WHO felt clinical testing should be carried out to discover whether it really was the answer.

"We have no significant information yet to show that it is effective," he said.
4 posted on 03/26/2003 1:49:51 PM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: Mother Abigail
It's obviously too late to contain this disease. And it's pretty late to start identifying it and developing a vaccine. China has a lot to answer for.

Then again, China has been brewing new flu strains for a century or more, and nobody has tried to do anything to correct the situation.
5 posted on 03/26/2003 1:51:36 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Stones go ahead with Singapore show

SINGAPORE (AP) -- The Rolling Stones were going ahead with a concert in Singapore Wednesday despite an outbreak of deadly flu in the city state that has claimed one life and pushed more than 700 people into quarantine.

" Please allow me to introduce myself..."

6 posted on 03/26/2003 1:53:42 PM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: Cicero

Mother Abigail is trying to freak you all out!


7 posted on 03/26/2003 1:54:01 PM PST by TaxRelief
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To: WriteOn
'white terror': isn't that the chinese nickname for caucasians?

In Cantonese it sounds like yang guay- it translates to white devil. Maybe a chinese freeper could help us out. - tom

8 posted on 03/26/2003 1:56:47 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Cicero
Yay communism, huh?

Keep your people in utter squalor until disease breaks out, and then hide the outbreak because you don't evil capitalist running-dog pigs to think there might be something wrong with your system. I bet the death count in China is many multiples of what they say it is.
9 posted on 03/26/2003 1:57:58 PM PST by Goodlife
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To: TaxRelief

10 posted on 03/26/2003 1:58:19 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: Mother Abigail
I think it's time to give "The Stand" another read.
11 posted on 03/26/2003 2:01:10 PM PST by Snowy (My golden retriever can lick your honor student)
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To: TaxRelief
Well, these things do happen. But unfortunately the Chinese kept it hidden for several months.

No, that's just my personal opinion. What with the Canadian and other cases, the difficulty if not impossibility of shutting down all travel through Singapore and China, I don't think there's a chance of isolating this disease.
12 posted on 03/26/2003 2:02:11 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marshmallow; WriteOn
Population of China 1.3 billion. # of cases of SARS in China 800 since November. Risk of contracting SARS to date, not allowing for mismangement of disease, 6 in 10,000,000, if you live in China.
13 posted on 03/26/2003 2:05:05 PM PST by TaxRelief
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To: Dark Wing
ping
14 posted on 03/26/2003 2:05:10 PM PST by Thud
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To: Cicero
"But unfortunately the Chinese kept it hidden for several months."

if they kept it hidden for several months, its not much of an epidemic , is it?

15 posted on 03/26/2003 2:06:06 PM PST by cherry
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To: Snowy
Calling Captain Tripps.
16 posted on 03/26/2003 2:09:26 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: Diogenesis
Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! Watch out for the monkeys and all their little diseases! Killer-flu...
17 posted on 03/26/2003 2:11:22 PM PST by TaxRelief (Life is just a chair of bowlies...)
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To: WriteOn
'white terror': isn't that the chinese nickname for caucasians?

Isn't it "white devil, white devil"? (source: Ace Venture, When Nature Calls)
18 posted on 03/26/2003 2:12:24 PM PST by uncitizen (hostile freepers need not reply)
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To: TaxRelief
I think the 1918 'outbreak' was via 'Horse' dung particles airborn because of the mass 'burning' of the dung?
19 posted on 03/26/2003 2:15:48 PM PST by maestro
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To: cherry
 

China reveals much larger outbreak _ 34 deaths, 792 cases _ and WHO confirms it's SARS

For the first time, Chinese government officials revealed Wednesday that nearly three dozen people have died and almost 800 became ill in a mysterious outbreak that Western medical investigators confirm was the beginning spread of a new flu-like disease.

The new numbers raised the worldwide death total from severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, to 51, with 1,325 cases since mid-November.

Until now, Chinese authorities said only five people had died from a pneumonia-like illness that struck southern Guangdong province. The new count of 34 includes three deaths in Beijing.

"Everything we've seen so far indicates it's the same disease," said Dr. Meirion Evans, member of a WHO team that has studied the cases in southern China.

"We're getting a more complete picture. It's certainly been one of the objectives of the mission to clarify whether the outbreak in China was the same disease as what's been seen outside of China."

For weeks, Chinese officials said only 305 people were sickened in an outbreak that started in November.

But a spokeswoman for the Guangzhou city government, who identified herself only by the surname Ye, said Wednesday that 792 cases of atypical pneumonia were reported in the province by the end of February, putting the worldwide case number at more than 1,300.

Health authorities in Hong Kong have said the disease spread when a sick Beijing professor stayed at the Metropole Hotel in late February, infecting six other guests, who then carried it to Singapore, Vietnam and Canada.

World Health Organization scientists say the disease spreads when victims cough or sneeze in close contact with others. Most SARS victims have been family members of those who have the disease or health workers treating them.

But the spread among strangers in the Hong Kong hotel and among nine tourists on a March 15 China Air flight from Hong Kong to Beijing has heightened fears.

20 posted on 03/26/2003 2:22:06 PM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: cherry
Not much of an epidemic, but very interesting if you enjoy analysing the little wiggly creatures...
21 posted on 03/26/2003 2:23:38 PM PST by TaxRelief (Life is just a chair of bowlies...)
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To: Cicero
Once a causative agent is identified, then a vaccine is certainly possible. Let's hope for the best..
22 posted on 03/26/2003 2:25:14 PM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: Mother Abigail; I'll be your Huckleberry
Less panicky, more encouraging. Now we are making progress.
23 posted on 03/26/2003 2:28:05 PM PST by TaxRelief (Life is just a chair of bowlies...)
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To: TaxRelief
Do you really believe China's numbers?
24 posted on 03/26/2003 2:31:55 PM PST by lucidloony
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To: TaxRelief
Mother Abigail is trying to freak you all out!

Not to completely discount what you are saying but this is a NEW disease and it (as they all do) is slowly moving into the general population.

The good news is that it does not appear to be exponential above 2 with the passage of time.

25 posted on 03/26/2003 2:32:29 PM PST by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: All
Thousands asked to wear masks as health officials extend SARS quarantine

 CASSANDRA SZKLARSKICanadian Press

Wednesday, March 26, 2003
 
Ontario Health Minister Tony Clement, seen here in this file photo. (CP Archive/Frank Gunn)

TORONTO (CP) - Canadians in the thousands have been asked to "quarantine themselves," wearing masks and in some cases staying home over fears a deadly SARS outbreak contained to the Toronto-area would spread even further.

Toronto's Medical Officer of Health said everyone who visited the east-end Scarborough Grace Hospital since March 16 should remain in their homes for 10 days since that visit. Their family members may go to work or school, but must wear a mask when at home and in contact with those who are at risk of infection.

"We realize this is a substantial amount of people, we're talking about over a thousand we expect, this number will be in the thousands," said Dr. Sheela Basrur.

"This is an incident of unprecedented scope and magnitude."

The comments came as protective face masks flew off supply store shelves Wednesday as anxious Torontonians sought to shield themselves against a deadly SARS outbreak that prompted Ontario to declare a "health emergency."

Ontario's Public Security Commissioner said police were providing protection for a helicopter about to land at Scarborough Grace Hospital carrying an infectious disease expert. The hospital has no landing pad, forcing the helicopter to land on the grounds of the hospital.

"The police presence is simply to allow that to happen and ensure public safety by cordoning off the area," said Dr. James Young.
News of the extended quarantine came hours after Health Minister Tony Clement announced he had declared a "health emergency" in Ontario. By using the province's emergency powers legislation, Clement was able to activate an action group to try to stop the spread of SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome.

Dozens of households have already been quarantined and Scarborough's emergency room was closed earlier this week. A second Toronto hospital, Mount Sinai, stopped accepting new emergency patients on Wednesday. A Toronto elementary school has been closed since Monday.

"We're taking this very seriously," Clement said.
"By characterizing it as a health emergency, we are giving ourselves the powers that we need and the information that we need at the most appropriate time to ensure that we can contain this disease as soon as possible."

A command centre will be set up and staffed 24 hours a day to co-ordinate all information from hospitals and health workers.
26 posted on 03/26/2003 2:32:36 PM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: Mother Abigail
Is this an antibiotic resistant pneumonia spliced on to a common cold virus?
27 posted on 03/26/2003 2:33:23 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Mother Abigail
The Rolling Stones were going ahead with a concert in Singapore Wednesday despite an outbreak of deadly flu in the city state that has claimed one life and pushed more than 700 people into quarantine.

Friday and Saturday they play in Hong Kong.

28 posted on 03/26/2003 2:33:47 PM PST by per loin
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To: Mother Abigail
Is this an antibiotic resistant pneumonia spliced to a common cold virus?
29 posted on 03/26/2003 2:34:21 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: All

"I did it! I did it! I spread the little diseases."


30 posted on 03/26/2003 2:35:04 PM PST by TaxRelief (Life is just a chair of bowlies...)
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To: Mother Abigail; TaxRelief
This is an incident of unprecedented scope and magnitude

Looks like a fellow fear monger.

31 posted on 03/26/2003 2:35:18 PM PST by riri
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To: per loin
The Rolling Stones were going ahead with a concert in Singapore Wednesday

At their age, I bet they travel with respirators anyway.

32 posted on 03/26/2003 2:36:35 PM PST by riri
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To: per loin
You have got to be kidding me...
33 posted on 03/26/2003 2:37:08 PM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: GOPJ
No one knows yet. They are still researching it. So relax and watch the war, they'll let you know when it reaches your town.
34 posted on 03/26/2003 2:38:11 PM PST by TaxRelief (Life is just a chair of bowlies...)
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To: GOPJ
That is certainly one possible explanation.
35 posted on 03/26/2003 2:38:18 PM PST by aristeides
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To: per loin
Hope they take their sanitizer. Can't wait to see them sing through their masks. LOL
36 posted on 03/26/2003 2:39:42 PM PST by TaxRelief (Life is just a chair of bowlies...)
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To: GOPJ
As a wise freeper said on an earlier thread "Let's think horses not zebras"
37 posted on 03/26/2003 2:40:27 PM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: TaxRelief
Population of China 1.3 billion. # of cases of SARS in China 800 since November. Risk of contracting SARS to date, not allowing for mismangement of disease, 6 in 10,000,000, if you live in China.

If you wish to use figures to be silly, try these: The chance of a Chinese having contracted SARS has increased 80,000% since November.

38 posted on 03/26/2003 2:41:41 PM PST by per loin
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To: Mother Abigail
The Associated Press

Wednesday, March 26, 2003; 2:20 PM

The Rolling Stones were going ahead with a concert in Singapore Wednesday despite an outbreak of deadly flu in the city state that has claimed one life and pushed more than 700 people into quarantine.

"It's not canceled," said Ben Munroe, head of Cazbaa, the promoter of the Stones' Licks World Tour in Singapore.

"Everyone knew there was flu before they arrived and despite that the Stones still came."

Earlier Wednesday, Singapore's Health Ministry reported the first death here as a result of the mystery illness known as severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS.

The outbreak has sickened another 68 people in Singapore and officials have ordered more than 700 people quarantined.

According to the band's Web site, the Stones also will perform Friday and Saturday in Hong Kong, where many have been wearing surgical masks in public hoping to avoid the disease.

39 posted on 03/26/2003 2:44:52 PM PST by per loin
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To: lucidloony
No.
40 posted on 03/26/2003 2:50:47 PM PST by TaxRelief (Life is just a chair of bowlies...)
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To: Snowy
Let's all reread The Stand and meet back here for Book Club in say, 1 week?
42 posted on 03/26/2003 2:53:51 PM PST by TaxRelief (Life is just a chair of bowlies...)
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To: gcochran
Actually, it is possible, if the pnuemonia is viral (hence antibiotic resistant).
43 posted on 03/26/2003 2:56:44 PM PST by TaxRelief (Life is just a chair of bowlies...)
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To: gcochran
Hong Kong Diocese issues guidelines to prevent spread of SARS

HONG KONG (CNS) -- The Hong Kong Diocese has issued special guidelines for church activities to prevent the spread of severe acute respiratory syndrome, an atypical pneumonia known as SARS, that has killed at least 10 people locally.

"Guidelines for the Prevention of the Spread of Atypical Pneumonia," a two-page document released by the diocesan chancery March 25, deals with sterilization of churches and with close body contact during Mass, confessions and Sunday school, reported UCA News, an Asian church news agency based in Thailand. Parishes are told to clean more often and sterilize church floors, kneelers, toilets and confessionals while maintaining good ventilation during church services.

Protective masks are to be provided for people at church entrances. The guidelines advise Catholics suffering from a cough, fever or respiratory difficulty not to attend Mass, even on Sunday, but pray privately instead. Use of holy water fonts at church entrances is to be discontinued temporarily
44 posted on 03/26/2003 3:00:09 PM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: Mother Abigail
Guangdong officials point to news reports that said 24 people had died and 680 had been infected in that city by the end of February. SARS is poorly understood and scientists have yet to nail down its cause.

24 / 680 = 3.5%

6,000,000,000 worldwide population * 3.5% = 210,000,000 deaths worldwide assuming the mortality rate is correct and remains constant.

45 posted on 03/26/2003 3:07:06 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: Mother Abigail
And in other news today...

Ontario declares SARS an 'emergency'

Thousands of people in the Toronto area are being asked to put themselves in "quarantine" by staying at home or wearing surgical masks in an effort to contain the deadly outbreak of the mysterious illness known as SARS.

And the Ontario government announced on Wednesday that it was treating the outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome as a "provincial emergency."

Toronto's Medical Officer of Health said everyone who visited the east-end Scarborough Grace Hospital since March 16 should remain in their homes for 10 days since that visit.

Their family members may go to work or school, but must wear a mask when at home and in contact with those who are at risk of infection.

46 posted on 03/26/2003 3:09:42 PM PST by altayann
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To: rmmcdaniell
24 / 680 = 3.5%

6,000,000,000 worldwide population * 3.5% = 210,000,000 deaths worldwide assuming the mortality rate is correct and remains constant.

Ok well I forgot to mention that not everyone would be succeptable and aquire the disease. However many of the infected individuals have not recovered and may yet die. So the mortality rate may be higher.

47 posted on 03/26/2003 3:09:43 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: Mother Abigail
Canadians are a high percentage of French...who are afraid of their shadows....shoot they will all sufficate in sealed rooms. Move along..nothing to see here.
48 posted on 03/26/2003 3:13:53 PM PST by BriarBey
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To: BriarBey
Toronto's a two and half hour drive from Buffalo, NY, for those of you who don't know geography very well.
49 posted on 03/26/2003 3:20:08 PM PST by altayann
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