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FBI Warns That Terrorists Could Make Simple, Deadly Chemical Weapon
AP -TampaBayOnline ^ | March26, 2003 | Curt Anderson

Posted on 03/27/2003 1:33:38 AM PST by FairOpinion

WASHINGTON (AP) - The FBI is warning police that terrorists could construct a simple but deadly chemical weapon out of materials readily available. "Little or no training is required to assemble and deploy such a device due to its simplicity," the FBI said Wednesday in its weekly intelligence bulletin to about 18,000 law enforcement agencies.

The bulletin provides no details of a specific threat or possible location of an attack. It does say that terrorists could take advantage of building ventilation systems, air intakes or enclosed areas to disperse toxic chemical gas.

Law enforcement officials previously have warned that al-Qaida or other terrorist groups might target subways and targets such as hotels and office buildings rather than heavily guarded government installations.

In addition, material collected in Pakistan after the March 1 capture in that country of senior al-Qaida planner Khalid Shaikh Mohammed provided further proof that operatives experimented with various forms of chemical, radiological and biological weapons, law enforcement officials say.

The FBI bulletin says hydrogen cyanide or chorine gas could be produced by combining liquid and solid materials, possibly using a canister such as a paint can with holes pierced into it. The materials could be combined using either a blasting cap or some kind of delayed switch.

"When combined, this creates the toxic gas that would emerge through the holes," the bulletin says.

Such a device would be most effective in an enclosed space, the bulletin adds, because it would be dispersed too quickly in larger areas or out in the open to kill or injure many people. But police, firefighters and medical personnel could be imperiled when responding to an attack because "the device may reactivate when it is disturbed."

In January, the FBI told police to beware of possible attacks using ricin, a toxic substance derived from the castor bean plant. That warning followed the arrests last year in Britain of 11 North African men on terrorism charges stemming from an alleged attempt to develop a ricin weapon.

The bulletin came as the FBI continues to interview Iraqis living in the United States at the rate of about 1,000 a day, with a goal of reaching 11,000 by the end of this week.

The interviews, focused on those who have recently traveled to Iraq or have ties to the Iraqi military, are intended to discover the identities of any terrorists and spies in the United States and also to find any information that might be helpful to U.S. forces in Iraq.

The bulletin also repeated the FBI's search for Adnan G. El Shukrijumah, a 27-year-old Saudi-born man who may be an al-Qaida operative. El Shukrijumah left the Miami area in May 2001 for Morocco, according to his family, but law enforcement officials say they do not know his whereabouts.

El Shukrijumah was identified in part by information collected after Mohammed's capture in Pakistan.

In addition, the bulletin asks police to look for Dr. Mohammed Khan, 33, and his estranged wife, 31-year-old Aafia Siddiqui, both of whom the FBI wants to question about possible terrorist ties.

Siddiqui, who has a doctorate in neurological science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, may be in Pakistan, FBI officials say. She lived in Boston while attending MIT and also recently traveled in Maryland.

The bulletin provided no further information about Khan.

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Note that some of these terrorists are very educated, Siddiquihas a Ph. D.in neurological science from MIT.
1 posted on 03/27/2003 1:33:38 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
"In addition, the bulletin asks police to look for Dr. Mohammed Khan, 33, and his estranged wife, 31-year-old Aafia Siddiqui, both of whom the FBI wants to question about possible terrorist ties. "

More about these two in an article from a Pakistani paper:

Pakistani couple sought in Qaeda hunt
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_27-3-2003_pg7_56

By Khalid Hasan

WASHINGTON: The FBI is seeking a Pakistani couple for its links to a Saudi resident of South Florida with suspected Al Qaeda connections.

The Bureau’s Baltimore office said it was looking for Dr Aafia Siddiqui, 31, and her husband Mohammed Khan, 33, about possible terrorist activities.

The couple is suspected of having links with Adnan G El Shukrijumah, 27, who once lived in Miami but has since disappeared. The US agency believes he has links with Al Qaeda.

The FBI is looking for El Shukrijumah after an alias he used turned up in various places, including during the interrogation of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Dr Siddiqui, a resident of the Boston area, is said to have visited Gaithersburg, Maryland, in December last year or January, but the FBI would not say what significance that visit had and whom she met. The agency believes she may have valuable information.

Dr Siddiqui has a PhD in neurological science and has studied at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Brandeis University, Massachusetts, as well as at Houston, Texas. The FBI believes Dr Siddiqui is now in Pakistan. While at MIT, she wrote a paper on the mechanics of setting up a Muslim student organisation. Both she and her husband were office-bearers of the Institute of Islamic Research and Teaching Inc.

In another development, the authorities announced this week that they would be interrogating 11,000 Iraqis living in the US, most of them American citizens. The move was immediately denounced as ‘racial profiling’.




2 posted on 03/27/2003 1:43:51 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
"The Bureau’s Baltimore office said it was looking for Dr Aafia Siddiqui, 31, and her husband Mohammed Khan, 33, about possible terrorist activities. " Dr. Mohammed Khan Aafia Siddiqui
3 posted on 03/27/2003 1:47:27 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Adnan G. El Shukrijumah
4 posted on 03/27/2003 1:49:54 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
I'll never forget .. (way back in the early 60s) when most of America hadn't even heard of LSD, Life magazine did a huge pictured piece showing in detail how to make it. That article helped set off about ten years of insanity in this country.
5 posted on 03/27/2003 2:04:14 AM PST by Highest Authority
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To: Highest Authority
That article helped set off about ten years of insanity in this country.

Do you really believe that?

You can google up 1000 insane things to make. Is the next decade going to be 1000 times as insane? Maybe Tom Ridge should decide what we all should know and not know.

6 posted on 03/27/2003 4:31:16 AM PST by eno_
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7 posted on 03/27/2003 4:35:25 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Highest Authority
Did you keep a copy? ;-)
8 posted on 03/27/2003 4:55:18 AM PST by nina0113
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To: FairOpinion
The FBI bulletin says hydrogen cyanide or chorine gas could be produced by combining liquid and solid materials,

Mix chlorox and draino to clean your sink and you release chlorine gas. We see it in the emergency rooms once in awhile.

9 posted on 03/27/2003 5:38:19 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: FairOpinion
It's important to include step by step details for WMD construction. Also it should be multi-lingual, and handicap accessible. The Fedgov must subsidize the materials if terrorists cannot afford them. How dare we spend money on a war abroad when we must meet these domestic funding needs at home. Raise taxes.
10 posted on 03/27/2003 5:39:13 AM PST by sam_paine
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To: Badabing Badaboom
Such a device would be most effective in an enclosed space, the bulletin adds, because it would be dispersed too quickly in larger areas or out in the open to kill or injure many people. But police, firefighters and medical personnel could be imperiled when responding to an attack because "the device may reactivate when it is disturbed."

More goofiness.

11 posted on 03/27/2003 5:42:34 AM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: FairOpinion
According to the report, simple household chlorine, when added to a crusty black pantsuit, would give off toxic fumes capable of producing severe nausea and vomiting in anyone within a 2-square mile area.
12 posted on 03/27/2003 5:45:30 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: honway; thinden; Fred Mertz; Wallaby; Nita Nuprez
FYI
13 posted on 03/27/2003 6:05:49 AM PST by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: Highest Authority
I'll never forget .. (way back in the early 60s) when most of America hadn't even heard of LSD, Life magazine did a huge pictured piece showing in detail how to make it. That article helped set off about ten years of insanity in this country.

far out

14 posted on 03/27/2003 6:48:45 AM PST by thinden
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To: FairOpinion
The FBI bulletin says hydrogen cyanide or chorine gas could be produced by combining liquid and solid materials, possibly using a canister such as a paint can with holes pierced into it. The materials could be combined using either a blasting cap or some kind of delayed switch.

Or a plastic bag with one end frozen in an ice cube. Just like the way the military taught us in our improvised weapons classes.

-archy-/-

15 posted on 03/27/2003 7:14:07 AM PST by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Highest Authority
I was researching a statement by Jonah Goldberg, that Saddam Hussein had weaponized aflatoxin, whose only purpose would be to cause painful liver cancer in children, and I came across this website. It seems to discuss all types of bio-weapons on a page that uses gas masks for wall paper and has a missile at the bottom. The page seems to be hidden in a veternary website. Anyway it's mostly in Arabic, so take a look. CLICK HERE
16 posted on 03/27/2003 9:29:41 AM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
That was supposed to be veterinary.
17 posted on 03/27/2003 9:44:40 AM PST by Eva
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To: LadyDoc
How 'bout ammonia and chlorox?

Anyway, could you look at my link on post 16?
18 posted on 03/27/2003 9:46:30 AM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
I investigated the site a little more and it appears to be an Israeli site, dedicated to protecting Israelis from WMD. It really is scarey, though with missiles and gas masks all over the place.
19 posted on 03/27/2003 9:56:15 AM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
aflatoxin is the yellow rain suspected in cambodia. Didn't know SH was into it, but the Russians were.

It occurs naturally. see

http://www.usda.gov/gipsa/newsroom/backgrounders/b-aflatox.htm

This is one of the fungi that grow in grain and causes liver cancer. Liver cancer is common in many parts of Africa from this and similar molds.

What people don't realize is that, like Anthrax, there are legitamate reasons that SH would be doing such research. (i.e. as a public health prevention program).

He is a dictatorial bastard, but like Hitler and Stalin, he took care of his people in other ways.

But as a war weapon, it would not be very useful. Takes too long to work. Lots of easier stuff to use.
20 posted on 03/27/2003 10:36:03 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
According to the report, simple household chlorine, when added to a crusty black pantsuit, would give off toxic fumes capable of producing severe nausea and vomiting in anyone within a 2-square mile area.

Hm. Chlorine diminishes the effect then. Yesterday that crusty black pantsuit, in Washington D.C., was producing severe nausea and vomiting all the way out here in Washington State.

21 posted on 03/27/2003 12:19:40 PM PST by Eala
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To: LadyDoc
But as a war weapon, it would not be very useful. Takes too long to work. Lots of easier stuff to use.

How about as a terror weapon?

22 posted on 03/27/2003 12:20:47 PM PST by Eala
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To: LadyDoc
Bleach and Lime-Away do the same thing.

We had a Marine mix the two in a swab bucket and damn near kill himself. Lucky for him a couple of us were coming back from our annual gas mask confidence exercise; we donned, cleared, and checked in under seven seconds, then got his carcass out of the space he was swabbing.

23 posted on 03/27/2003 12:22:17 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: FairOpinion
The bulletin came as the FBI continues to interview Iraqis living in the United States at the rate of about 1,000 a day, with a goal of reaching 11,000 by the end of this week.

They can start with Iraqis. It's quite possible the thousands of Saudis, Bosnians, Syrians, and Pakistanis might just be as much, if not MORE of a threat....

But then again, we may as well just interview ALL MUSLIMS.

24 posted on 03/27/2003 2:48:41 PM PST by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: Eala
You asked: How about as a terror weapon?

You could use it as a terror weapon, but other things would be easier. For example, black mold can cause ergotism. Ever hear of the St Vitus dance epidemics in the middle ages? Ergot poisoning, with LSD type hallucinations and gangrene of arms and legs.

Castor beans can make ricin. Anthrax is in millions of barnyards. Histoplasmosis is common in chicken poop. Coccidiomycosis in the desert. If you want to cause cancer, just spray benzene (causes bladder cancer).

Quick trivia: When was the last bioterror attack on the US? (i.e. before Anthrax): answer, when an Oregon cult added germs to the local salad bar, aimiing to make enough people sick that they could steal the election. Originally, the epidemic was blamed on failure of hand washing in the restaurant staffs.

Also the Germans tried to send foot and mouth disease to the US in 1917.

Another trivia: A foodworker with open TB gave TB to 100 people in congress accidentally 20 years ago.

And then there is HIV: 50 percent of the first 1000 cases could be traced back to a handsome air steward.

So yes, it could cause a lot of headlines to terrorize people. In cambodia, people were terrified about yellow rain. But many of the deaths reported in the US medical literature blamed on yellow rain were probably a type of cardiomyopathy that is common in Orientals, causing sudden death in young healthy men. But since few MDs treated Orientals, they didn't recognize the syndrome.
25 posted on 03/27/2003 3:11:50 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: F16Fighter
But then again, we may as well just interview ALL MUSLIMS.

Sorry, but there are 5 million Muslims here. Then there are Black Muslims. Then there are Christian Palestinians. Then there are nut cases. And don't forget the IRA and colombian narcoterrorists.

The chance of (say) a secular Iranian Pediatrician being a terrorist is probably low.

And the wholesale questioning of one's patriotism due to profiling causes resentment that could last for years. One of our family stories is my grandfather being picked up and interrogated as a spy during World War I: A neighbor reported him for singing German songs. We remember this 90 years later, with a resentful laugh. He was a good American. So excuse me if I don't think a person should be judged by his group.

Now, if you want to do routine policework to check on small political groups, fine. You want to bug mosques? Fine. They did this to some Prolife groups. Caused bad blood, but probably necessary. But don't lable all Catholics and prolife Christians as terrorists because a few nut cases kill abortion doctors. (statistically it comes to one abortiondoctor murderer per 20 million prolife people) any more than a having 200 possible jihadists amongh 5 million Muslims make all them guilty.
26 posted on 03/27/2003 3:25:21 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: LadyDoc
"But don't lable all Catholics and prolife Christians as terrorists because a few nut cases kill abortion doctors. (statistically it comes to one abortiondoctor murderer per 20 million prolife people) any more than a having 200 possible jihadists amongh 5 million Muslims make all them guilty."

I'm sorry I don't share in the validity of your statistics.

The day a pro-life "nutcase" and his "pro-life" organization is found to have plotted and conspired against the wholesale slaughter of thousands of people of the United States of America -- as has Islam -- is THE day your ill-founded analogy works.

Furthermore, no one can deny that as long as there is an Islamic presense, this threat will remain in America ad infinitim.

"American" Islam lies in the reeds like a cobra biding its time.

27 posted on 03/27/2003 3:41:22 PM PST by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: Eva
"How 'bout ammonia and chlorox?"

When your mother inlaw makes comments about the state of your bathroom, you can tell her that you have a new cleaning agent for her to try out. Phosgene reacts with the moisture in the eyes and airway passages to produce Hydro Chloric Acid.

28 posted on 03/27/2003 3:41:52 PM PST by SSN558 (Be on the lookout for Black/White Supremacists)
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To: SSN558
I remembered from chemistry class that it was bad, but I couldn't remember exactly what happened if you mixed them. I'll remember to tell that to my mother-in-law.
29 posted on 03/27/2003 3:44:03 PM PST by Eva
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To: LadyDoc
I have to disagree with you.

Too many "middle class" Arabs have become radicalized. Too many doctors, professors, etc. now spew Osama-isms. We have to treat these people, if they have radical Islamist sympathies, like we did Nazis and Communists - yank their visas and revoke citizenship if we must.

Atta had a high quality university education. The illiterate foaming at the mouth ones LOOK scarier, but in practice they could terrorize a few goats.
30 posted on 03/27/2003 4:44:51 PM PST by eno_
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To: LadyDoc
Ugh. Well, I asked so I deserve it.
31 posted on 03/27/2003 5:30:27 PM PST by Eala
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To: MizSterious
Thank you for the ping. I'm trying to keep up with this particular topic.
32 posted on 03/28/2003 8:36:56 PM PST by Nita Nuprez
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To: Eva
You get chloramines, though from household strength ammonia and bleach you don't get anything significant except in a closed area. Once years ago, when a kid with a slightly twisted mind, I poured a cup of each into a bowl in the middle of the back yard expecting it to generate a huge yellow-green cloud of noxious gas or something. The result was not even enough to smell.
33 posted on 03/29/2003 9:59:35 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Dog

Bump.


34 posted on 05/26/2004 9:32:23 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: FairOpinion
In addition, the bulletin asks police to look for Dr. Mohammed Khan, 33, and his estranged wife, 31-year-old Aafia Siddiqui, both of whom the FBI wants to question about possible terrorist ties. "

Khan has been located.......but they are keeping it quiet.


35 posted on 07/14/2004 5:33:34 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Shermy

See post 35..


36 posted on 07/14/2004 5:34:19 AM PDT by Dog
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To: LadyDoc
Fill a plastic bottle full of little wads of tinfoil, add drain cleaner and screw the cap on tightly. a.k.a."The Works Bomb." Nothing nefarious, just scares the crap out of people.
37 posted on 07/14/2004 5:47:37 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: Dog

But Shukrijumah is still on the loose, right? Is he the one who spent some time in Canada?


38 posted on 07/14/2004 5:50:23 AM PDT by mewzilla
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