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Police told suspects black from very 1st shot fired! (D.C. SNIPER TERROR)
World Net Daily ^
| March 28,2003
| Paul Sperry
Posted on 03/28/2003 5:58:40 AM PST by wgeorge2001
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- D.C. SNIPER TERROR Police told suspects black from very 1st shot fired Eyewitness to Michaels store window shooting also described getaway car
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: March 28, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Paul Sperry © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
ASPEN HILL, Md. Just hours after the Beltway snipers shot out a crafts store window here, kicking off a three-week rampage, a pizza delivery man on shift next to the store told local police he saw two short-haired black males leave the scene laughing and "high-fiving" each other in a dark, older-model car, WorldNetDaily has learned.
Yet the sniper task force, led by Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, ignored the early eyewitness account and focused instead on a white suspect in a white vehicle, according to MCPD investigators, who are now speaking out about what they call racially correct "tunnel vision" during the nation's largest manhunt.
Chief Charles Moose
The snipers shot out a window at a Michaels craft store here in Aspen Hill at 5:20 p.m. on Oct. 2. About 45 minutes later, they shot and killed a 55-year-old man in a grocery store parking lot in nearby Wheaton, Md. He was the first of the snipers' 13 victims.
Suspecting the Michaels shooting was connected, one of Moose's homicide detectives canvassed the shopping center there, a senior investigator says. He took a statement from a Papa John's Pizza employee working two doors down from Michaels, who said he heard the rifle report and turned to see "two black males with short hair" driving slowly away in a dark-colored "beat-up vehicle," the source said.
The witness told the detective the men were "laughing and high-fiving themselves" as they left the parking lot, according to the investigator, who requested anonymity. The car then sped up as it exited the parking lot, as if "fleeing the scene," as the witness reportedly put it.
The detective filed a written report with headquarters, but the eyewitness statement was buried, department sources say.
The manager of the Papa John's store in Aspen Hill yesterday confirmed that one of his drivers, Steve Cribbin, witnessed the snipers leave the parking lot the evening of Oct. 2.
"He said he heard the shot and he saw a car kind of speeding out of the parking lot," manager James Colston told WorldNetDaily.
John Allen Muhammad, 42, and Lee Boyd Malvo, 18, both black, were arrested in the murder spree on Oct. 24, while sleeping at a rural Maryland rest area. They were in a dark blue 1990 Chevrolet Caprice.
John Lee Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo
Some Montgomery county police officers charge that Moose was reluctant to release the suspects' race throughout the manhunt, because he had agreed with the Justice Department to end racial profiling in the county in 2000. Moose, who has blamed "systemic racism" for what he calls an "overrepresentation" of blacks on death row, also ended racial profiling in Portland, Ore., when he served as that city's police chief.
"Moose didn't want his officers stopping every black in Montgomery County," said one officer who worked on the investigation. "Of course, it was OK to stop every white in a white box truck."
The officer, who wished to remain nameless, says he knows that Moose personally was aware of the descriptions of Muhammad and Malvo as early as Oct. 21, the day before they took their last victim, a bus driver in Aspen Hill.
"Once he had the info, he didn't disclose it, and Conrad Johnson, the last victim, was killed," he said.
Moose has been working closely with Johnson's family to lobby state lawmakers for even tougher gun laws in Maryland.
Moose was positive enough about at least Muhammad's identity that he secretly dispatched a team of undercover agents, led by a Special Investigations Division commander, to stake out Muhammad's ex-wife's house two days before he was captured, as WorldNetDaily first reported. Moose swore the agents to secrecy, and he didn't release a look-out bulletin for Muhammad or Malvo with their physical descriptions for another 24 hours.
Police union officials recently complained in salary arbitration hearings with the county that Moose jeopardized investigators' and patrol officers' safety by withholding the descriptions, as WorldNetDaily also exclusively reported.
"Shame on him. Shame on him and everyone else who knew the look-out and kept it from investigators and patrol officers," another officer said in an internal police department e-mail obtained by WorldNetDaily. "Thank the heavens God was looking out for us, because Moose and his cronies were not."
The same officer called Moose a "self-promoting clown."
A Montgomery County ethics panel ruled last week that the 49-year-old chief cannot cash in on his role in the sniper manhunt with planned book and movie deals.
Moose did not respond to both verbal and written requests for an interview, which were made before he was called early last week to active duty with the U.S. Air National Guard.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; maryland; montgomerycounty; moose; paulsperry; sniper
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Interesting.
To: wgeorge2001
Moose was reluctant to release the suspects' race throughout the manhunt, because he had agreed with the Justice Department to end racial profiling in the county What a moron. If the eyewitness says the bad guy was black, why look for a white man? It's not profiling, it's common sense. Of course, when political correctness arrived, common sense ran out the back door, never to be heard from again.
To: wgeorge2001
He should be charged with Obstruction of Justice, or even as an accessory.
He'll get a raise and a promotion.
To: wgeorge2001
Moose needs to be held accountable for his derelictin of duty. I hope some of the victims families file lawsuits and force all the facts into the conciousness of the general public.
4
posted on
03/28/2003 6:07:08 AM PST
by
OperationFreedom
( www.OperationFreedom.com)
To: wgeorge2001; Squantos; Travis McGee; SLB; Jeff Head; *bang_list
So the police had information about black suspects in a dark car so they stopped white men in a white van because Chief Moose did not want any racial profiling. They also used the investigation to focus on legal gun owners. I smell a large rat the size of a moose.
5
posted on
03/28/2003 6:07:31 AM PST
by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
>>>>He should be charged with Obstruction of Justice, or even as an accessory
AND he should be held as an accessary to the crimes that followed!!! If everyone was on the look out for that car in the report rather than chasing down every white van on the east coast...there may have been other deaths prevent!
Death to PC views.
6
posted on
03/28/2003 6:07:44 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(http://www.politicsandprotest.org/attack.swf)
To: mountaineer
I think it is worse than profiling. Moose is a rascist black man. That is established fact. Now put 2 and 2 together. He knows it is a black man. He gives misleading info. Why?
7
posted on
03/28/2003 6:09:17 AM PST
by
OperationFreedom
( www.OperationFreedom.com)
To: wgeorge2001
Yet the sniper task force, led by Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, ignored the early eyewitness account and focused instead on a white suspect in a white vehicle, according to MCPD investigators, who are now speaking out about what they call racially correct "tunnel vision" during the nation's largest manhunt.With book deals and movie rights in his sights, he was probably distracted.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:09:28 AM PST
by
TomServo
To: OperationFreedom
Didn't I hear something about Moose being called up for active duty?
To: wgeorge2001
"Suspecting the Michaels shooting was connected, one of Moose's homicide detectives canvassed the shopping center there, a senior investigator says. He took a statement from a Papa John's Pizza employee working two doors down from Michaels, who said he heard the rifle report and turned to see "two black males with short hair" driving slowly away in a dark-colored "beat-up vehicle," the source said." The jury is in: Chief Moose is an incompetent a-hole, at best.
To: valleygal; Scott from the Left Coast; AppyPappy; Coleus; Boxsford; null and void
Look at this FRUSTRATING load of PC crap! Ping.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:13:20 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(http://www.politicsandprotest.org/attack.swf)
To: harpseal
no kidding! spread the word!
To: wgeorge2001
If this report is true, Moose screwed up big time and should be pressured to resign.
13
posted on
03/28/2003 6:18:05 AM PST
by
two23
To: OperationFreedom
"Moose needs to be held accountable for his derelictin of duty. I hope some of the victims families file lawsuits and force all the facts into the conciousness of the general public." There is the distinct, dreadful possibility that Moose deliberately withheld the proper description of the culprits in order to prolong and increase the seriousness of their crime spree in order to bring more accolades upon himself when he finally DOES solve the case. Similar to the fireman who SETS a fire for the purpose of being The Big Hero when he helps put it out.
It's a well-known phenomenon.
Michael
To: OperationFreedom
Isn't having to say a "white" man is racial profiling in itself?
I am fed up with the racial thing. If a Black man did the crime, a black man did the crime, statisticly, most black men do crime. It isn't racial profiling, it's a fact.
I was in court for a class, the majority of the perpetrators of crime were black. Why would Moose want to ignore the facts and pass out the opposite information to the public, a white van, but it was a dark car, white suspect, but they were black men. Moose is racial profiling himself.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:18:48 AM PST
by
Zavien Doombringer
(If I could get a degree in trivia, I would have my Doctorate!)
To: wgeorge2001
Even after the police started receiving the phone calls from a man who was clearly black (based on his voice), they never released a description of the perps.
Here's hoping that Chief Moose comes to a bad end in Iraq. Alone, of course.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:19:10 AM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(now -- I'm not so sure about MY reputation, though.)
Comment #17 Removed by Moderator
To: Alberta's Child
I heard about the phone calls; but never saw a discription of the voice reported. Was that released???
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:23:15 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(http://www.politicsandprotest.org/attack.swf)
To: Calpernia
I heard the tape of one of the phone calls -- it was played on the news soon after the two perps were caught. Anyone with an IQ over 40 would have recognized that the caller was a black male.
To: Alberta's Child
Ah, I didn't hear the tapes. Didn't even know they were played.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:28:13 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(http://www.politicsandprotest.org/attack.swf)
To: Alberta's Child
Here's hoping that Chief Moose comes to a bad end in Iraq. Alone, of course. Wouldn't it be poetic if while in Iraq he was taken out by a sniper?
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:29:27 AM PST
by
Orangedog
(Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
To: OperationFreedom
Moose is a rascist black man.Half way through this messs Moose made a speech about how we needed to racially sensitive. We assumed he was talking about Middle Easterners.
Moose left the west coast because of trouble he caused with his being "overly racially sensitive". Seems he has the problem here. How many people did he let die?
He also was angry that the license plate number (which eventually caught these thugs) was released. Anyone around here who was praising him after these guys were caught is an idiot!
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:30:37 AM PST
by
lizma
To: two23
Remember the convicted felon who had done his time and was given five more years for giving a false statement about what he thought he saw in the Home Depot parking lot?
How is Moose-Man's behavior any different? Shouldn't the penalties be the same?
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:32:53 AM PST
by
blackdog
(American Lamb, from American farmers to your table. Never ever offered to the French.)
To: lizma
At least his blonde wife thinks he's just the greatest! Look for the book deal and movie gig to be done thru her. Moose can circumvent the county's ruling on him doing a book deal using his spouse as a pen.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:35:50 AM PST
by
blackdog
(American Lamb, from American farmers to your table. Never ever offered to the French.)
To: Orangedog
Woa! Wait a second! Should someone like this even be deployed? He may endanger our TROOPS!
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:36:13 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(http://www.politicsandprotest.org/attack.swf)
To: blackdog
From what I hear, she's a MAJOR feminist. What a wonderful pair. NOT!
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:41:29 AM PST
by
lizma
To: wgeorge2001
If the article is correct, Moose deliberately gave false information about the suspects to the investigating officers. I wonder what would happen to the average citizen who deliberately gave false information to investigating officers in a murder case.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:43:13 AM PST
by
templar
To: wgeorge2001
I see the new gun laws passing with overwhelming support in MD, as well as moose getting a huge promotion.
He self serves like nobodies seen, and it goes over *Big* up liberal north east.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:44:30 AM PST
by
Monty22
To: Alberta's Child; Calpernia
I heard one of the tapes too. It was about a week before the perps were caught. You're right, it was clearly the voice of a young black male.
To: wgeorge2001
More on Moose from the other day:
Moose
Moose won't be going to Iraq, he's a commander of a security force at Andrew's AFB.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:46:11 AM PST
by
Hatteras
(The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
To: two23
If this report is true, Moose screwed up big time and should be pressured to resign.This is all old news. It came out a few days after the arrests. Either the sheeple in Montgomery kounty are too p.c. and afraid or just don't care. Nothing will be done. It's very frustrating.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:47:50 AM PST
by
lizma
To: lizma
Moose on the Loose in the Mideast!
To: wgeorge2001
I don't understand this story. Why would the police want to cover up the real suspects? Didn't they want to catch the snipers so the killings would stop? Doesn't make them look bad when the snipers keeps picking people off and they keep looking and looking for the suspect? This story confuses me. hmmmm...
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:54:20 AM PST
by
Laurie S
To: Hatteras
Doesn't the President fly out of Andrews?
Doesn't sound like Moose is the man for that security detail to me.
To: harpseal; Travis McGee; JohnHuang2; Chapita; Noumenon
See post 30.
Doesn't the President fly out of Andrews?
Doesn't sound like Moose is the man for that security detail to me.
To: lizma
"Nothing will be done. It's very frustrating.Lives could have been saved if LE wasn't out in full force shaking down isuzu trucks. It's almost as if Moose lied to protect the snipers. Sickening.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:57:41 AM PST
by
two23
To: lizma
Moose is guilty of impeding an investigation.
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posted on
03/28/2003 6:59:50 AM PST
by
ez
(Were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free.-Lcpl Gomez USMC)
To: wgeorge2001
A Montgomery County ethics panel ruled last week that the 49-year-old chief cannot cash in on his role in the sniper manhunt with planned book and movie deals. Ten bucks says he quits and cashes in.
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posted on
03/28/2003 7:06:12 AM PST
by
Mr. Bird
To: lizma; TLBSHOW; Fred Mertz
Moose has antagonized a lot more people since then, with things like his book deal. Any new piece of bad news could be the last straw.
To: wgeorge2001
Hopefully Chief Moose loses his PC blindness when the Islamofacists are shooting at him and his fellow troops.
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posted on
03/28/2003 7:08:52 AM PST
by
anymouse
To: mountaineer
I'm surprised how quickly everyone on this thread is jumping on Moose. Hindsight's great. But I'd like to know why the supposed snipers were high-fiving after hitting nothing but a store window, when it's obvious they wanted to kill. And if this witness really did see them, then they either 1) shot from the window or outside the car, which apparently wasn't their M.O., or 2) the shooter crawled out of the trunk and over the front seat
really quickly before high-fiving.
This doesn't really pass the smell test.
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posted on
03/28/2003 7:17:20 AM PST
by
Coop
(God bless our troops!)
To: anymouse
Do you think for a moment the Mgr. Moose is going to be anywhere near the fighting.
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posted on
03/28/2003 7:18:45 AM PST
by
oyez
( In the rear with the gear)
To: mountaineer
Moose was the one racial profiling for PC.
To: mountaineer
It's not moronic - it's criminal.
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posted on
03/28/2003 7:26:53 AM PST
by
fishtank
(Resist liberal lies. Prosecute leftist treason.)
To: aristeides
I said it was a black Mulsim terrorist from day one....
They are the sleepers here,,,,aka Nation of Islam
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posted on
03/28/2003 7:42:22 AM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: wgeorge2001
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posted on
03/28/2003 8:13:41 AM PST
by
NautiNurse
(Usama bin Laden has produced more tapes than Steely Dan)
To: Calpernia
Thanks for the ping. Frustrating is an accurate word.
To: TLBSHOW
I said it was a black Mulsim terrorist from day one.... They are the sleepers here,,,,aka Nation of Islam From day one I had a bet going with my fifteen-year-old daughter. I said, "I'll bet you five bucks that when they catch the guy his name is Mohammed." She said, "No, I'll bet you his name is Mohammed!" We ended up exchanging five-dollar bills. (Cool kid--turning into such a gun-loving little right-winger, demonstrating against peaceniks, holding down a job, winning ribbons with the horse she gentled and trained, getting good grades, doing historical interpretation, and this fall joining ROTC.)
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posted on
03/28/2003 8:19:06 AM PST
by
Capriole
(Foi vainquera)
To: mountaineer
Of course, when political correctness arrived, common sense ran out the back door, never to be heard from again. PC really sucks, doesn't it?
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posted on
03/28/2003 8:20:31 AM PST
by
Mark17
To: harpseal
I smell a large rat the size of a moose.Many of us in the area had a sense that Moose wasn't being exactly honest from the beginning. We'd see the guy on TV, and his body language screamed "liar!!!".
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posted on
03/28/2003 8:23:19 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(What the #@!! is a quagmire, anyway?)
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