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GOTTA SEE THIS-WarEndur.Freedom 03/29/03-Arbil,Chamchamal,Kirkuk,Baghdad
IraqTV, Abu Dhabi TV, Yahoo, AP, Reuters, and the usual suspects | 3/29/03 | The Armies of Good against the Axis of Evil

Posted on 03/28/2003 10:04:26 AM PST by Diogenesis

GOTTA SEE THIS - War for Enduring Freedom 03/29/03 - Arbil, Chamchamal, Kirkuk, Baghdad

BREAKING: Saddam Surrounded
BREAKING: Arbil- American paratroopers In Force
BREAKING: Chamchamal - Kurds Take Iraqi Position
BREAKING: Near Kirkuk - Retreating Iraqis
BREAKING: Baath telecommunications centers taken out
BREAKING: Baath government centers taken out
BREAKING: Baghdad-Tikrit Regime elects to continue its terror and WMD
BREAKING: Fedayeen and Republican Guard - Decimation In progress


========= Map of northern Iraq =========

Map of northern Iraq showing the major battles [per AFP FWIW].


========= Harir airfield =========

At the Harir airfield, somewhere near the Kurdish city of Arbil [231 miles north of Baghdad],
paladin American paratroopers of the US Army 173rd Airborne Brigade prepare.


========= Chamchamal ~70 klicks west of Sulaymania =========

BREAKING:

Near Chamchamal, Kurds monitor their crossing the line
into what was Iraqi government-controlled territory.


========= Irbil =========

In Irbil, controlled by the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP),
231 miles north of Baghdad, a Kurd hero carries an artillery shell
that exploded in a vacant lot. These shells have TNT and smoke bombs,
and in the past also chemical weapons. The huge white plume of smoke
made everyone nervous that it was a chemical attack, because the Iraqis
do this to use up chemical weapon defense suits.


========= Kirkuk =========

BREAKING:

Near Kirkuk, at the abandoned Iraqi checkpost,
after Iraqis feld from Iraqi Kurd fighters who here stands guard.


Near Chamchamal, near hills parolled by Iraq.


An oil refinery in northern Iraq.


========= Baghdad =========

In Baghdad more warnings by the Coalition to DISARM.

At the Tigris River, in Baghdad, Iraq.
Abu Dhabi TV shows smoke billowing behind a bridge.


In Baghdad, at the presidential compound and other Baath centers.


ULTRA-ACCURATE AND ULTRAPRECISE TARGETING

Iraqi television and communications facility, before and after coalition bombing.


Iraqi missile support facility before and after coalition bombing.


SADDAM'S WAR CRIME

Baghdad from space. See the oil-filled trenches and thick smoke.


In Baghdad, Iraq, Iraqis at one of their last soccer games
under the Dictator and murderer Saddam, as smoke rises from Saddams oil fires.


In Baghdad, the Baath telecommunications center taken out.

Ozymandius indeed.


In Baghdad, Iraq, at the Baath government bulding.


In Baghdad, the Red Cross is busy again helping the Axis of Evil,

as unfortunately has been their way from Afghanistan through Israel.


Republican Guards control Baghdad. Will "Saddam" (read the Ministries and Feyadeen)
harden their hearts and minds again -- or disarm?


In Baghdad, at the news conference, Iraq's Defense Minister Sultan Hashim Ahmed.
This little Piggy is about to get voted off of the island with prejudice.


BREAKING: SUBMERGING MISSED TARGET ALERT

In Baghdad, at the news conference, Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al Sahaf
arrives for a news conference.


DEAD MEN WALKING

The Baghdad-Tikrit Regime yesterday elected to continue its terror and orders
Iraqi Republican Guard to head for the frontlines south of Baghdad to kill Coalition troops.


BREAKING:

Behind enemy lines - NOT REPORTED BY MAINSTREAM MEDIA
With the Fedayeen and Republican Guard supporters in Baghdad after
their troops were destroyed south of Baghdad.
If they do not give up now, they have just begun to feel the terrible swift sword of Justice at their door.


========= Black Sea =========

Somewhere between Iraq, England and the Black Sea,
champions on an Air Force B-52 bomber pilot its return from a mission
over Iraq, as heroes on a KC-10 plane refuel our "fathers' airplane".


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Please spend a few hours today helping for success in the War for Enduring Freedom,
or/and post your thought, missive, picture, thread, analysis, greetings to those serving overseas,
venting, update, correction, observation, or anything else of interest.


END OF TRANSMISSION 03/29/03 .......... K


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BUMP FOR SUCCESS in the WAR FOR ENDURING FREEDOM
1 posted on 03/28/2003 10:04:26 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 2111USMC; 2Jedismom; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; A Ruckus of Dogs; AdA$tra; ...
Iraqis are in retreat in the north

Bagdad behind enemy lines -
The Republican Guarad is beginning to feel the terrible swift sword of Justice.


2 posted on 03/28/2003 10:06:59 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks again for the photo coverage. Your captions are priceless!
3 posted on 03/28/2003 10:08:21 AM PST by rageaholic
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To: Diogenesis

A line of C-17 Globemaster IIs. Hmm, were do you suppose they are heading....

4 posted on 03/28/2003 10:13:03 AM PST by Spruce
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To: Diogenesis
Bump for victory and enduring freedom!

Father God, please keep safe watch over all defending our freedom and liberty.

5 posted on 03/28/2003 10:13:23 AM PST by paws_and_whiskers
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To: Diogenesis
These photo threads are among my favorites here at FR. Thank you Diogenesis- keep 'em comming! LETS ROLL
6 posted on 03/28/2003 10:14:54 AM PST by Ferret Fawcet
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To: Diogenesis
Freedom and Success Bump!
7 posted on 03/28/2003 10:16:24 AM PST by ThomasMore ([1 Pet 3:15-16])
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To: Diogenesis

"Hello? Hello? Can you hear me now?"

8 posted on 03/28/2003 10:18:22 AM PST by freedomson (Baruch haba b'shem Adonai!)
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To: Diogenesis
Wonderful as always. Been waitin all day to see this post!
9 posted on 03/28/2003 10:18:42 AM PST by SuzanneWeeks (Go GW Go)
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To: Diogenesis
Great Pics!
10 posted on 03/28/2003 10:18:48 AM PST by wardaddy (G-d speed our fighters!)
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To: Spruce
Each one able to carry one m1-a1...
11 posted on 03/28/2003 10:18:57 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: Diogenesis
I have absolutely no compassion for those who torture, maim and execute our POWs, or those who are so heartless as to machine gun thousands of women and children trying to flee Basra, or frankly, for any individual who willingly fights for Hussein.

But my heart breaks for the innocents; and even for the men forced against their will to commit suicide against our firepower.

It is enough to make me glad there is a Judgement Day.


12 posted on 03/28/2003 10:19:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Diogenesis
thanks for the action photogs.
13 posted on 03/28/2003 10:19:24 AM PST by Cate ((LET FREEDOM RING!!!!))
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To: Diogenesis
Time for Saddam if he is still alive to feel Justice. Thanks to all of our heroes who serve today.

JFaron
14 posted on 03/28/2003 10:22:29 AM PST by JFaron
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To: Spruce
Hmm, were do you suppose they are heading

Hmm indeed.

I hope that our soldiers are not letting the news medias "we're lossing" nonsense get inside their heads. This is a dangerous job, let's get it done with a well conceived

BLAM!

16 posted on 03/28/2003 10:24:19 AM PST by veracious
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To: Diogenesis

17 posted on 03/28/2003 10:26:13 AM PST by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: Diogenesis
Enjoyed your photos, Dio.
18 posted on 03/28/2003 10:27:39 AM PST by jaysgal ("We shall smack evil on the nose with the rolled up newspaper of justice!" THE TICK)
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To: Diogenesis

19 posted on 03/28/2003 10:28:22 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Diogenesis

A Marine reads the latest battle plan.



Your move.



Bombs Away!
20 posted on 03/28/2003 10:29:33 AM PST by cahergowan
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks for posting these everyday.
I always enjoy the B-52's. My dad (Hawk) navigated those for years. I always think of him when I see one. Thanks.
21 posted on 03/28/2003 10:29:33 AM PST by eyespysomething (Pray for our troops, our President, our country.)
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To: Diogenesis


22 posted on 03/28/2003 10:30:07 AM PST by Spruce
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To: EternalVigilance
#- 19.....getting Saddam's goat!

Leni

23 posted on 03/28/2003 10:31:18 AM PST by MinuteGal (THIS JUST IN ! Astonishing fare reduction for FReeps Ahoy Cruise! Check it out, pronto!)
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To: rageaholic
....worth repeating Thanks again for the photo coverage. Your captions are priceless!....as is your effort to keep us atuned to the events of this war!!!!

....Thanks and God Bless You!

24 posted on 03/28/2003 10:31:28 AM PST by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: Diogenesis
Hooooooooooaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! Love my Grunts! Infantry. The Queen of Battle. Follow Me! Hang Tough guys, Hang Tough!
25 posted on 03/28/2003 10:39:54 AM PST by RetiredArmy
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To: RetiredArmy
BTTT..
26 posted on 03/28/2003 10:46:07 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Diogenesis
I nominate Diogenesis for the FreeRepublic Pulitzer prize...
27 posted on 03/28/2003 10:46:53 AM PST by 1 x 7 Twist... (You can have my MOAB when they pry it from my cold dead fingers...)
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To: Diogenesis
My God

How many pounds of gear does the 173rd Airbourne carry on them???

Unbelievable!
28 posted on 03/28/2003 10:48:11 AM PST by aShepard
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To: Spruce; All
Nice to see you all today. Great pics; thanks.


Somewhere, a B-2 Spirit returning from its mission
over Iraq - involving 4,600-pound 'bunker-busters'.


29 posted on 03/28/2003 10:51:03 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: Diogenesis
The Kurdish soldiers look so elated to have American troops with them. And those Americans look deadly serious! God shower His blessings on them.

The photos in Baghdad appear to show the terror of Iraqis who have sided with the killer Saddam, and who know their 'fat days' are nearing an end.
30 posted on 03/28/2003 10:54:42 AM PST by WaterDragon (Playing possum doesn't work against nukes.)
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To: Diogenesis


31 posted on 03/28/2003 10:58:50 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: dave23
There's no way to tell, when someone is trying to kill you, whether they are being forced to or not. Training and survival kick in. War will always change a combatant, but not all that change is bad. Case studies show that for most combatants, upbringing, religion, education and training play a big factor in dealing with the horrors of war. I pray that ALL of these young men and women return to us.
32 posted on 03/28/2003 10:59:26 AM PST by caisson71
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To: Diogenesis
"Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel..."
34 posted on 03/28/2003 11:03:10 AM PST by Argus
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To: Spruce
That Air Force gal can arm my missle any day! ;-)
35 posted on 03/28/2003 11:04:22 AM PST by RadojeS (Bolje grob nego rob!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Those who caused these tears should tremble...


36 posted on 03/28/2003 11:21:53 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Spruce
A line of C-17 Globemaster IIs. Hmm, were do you suppose they are heading....

Could it be they are headed to BUSH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT?

37 posted on 03/28/2003 11:23:44 AM PST by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Diogenesis
Strip poker?

A masked US Marine with the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, plays cards at an undisclosed desert base in southern Iraq, Friday, March 28, 2003.

38 posted on 03/28/2003 11:34:04 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Diogenesis
Outstanding post.

Thank you!

A lot of us are sharing the images with many non-Freepers.
39 posted on 03/28/2003 11:37:36 AM PST by Radix (It makes a difference!)
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks for the ping Dio - and a very big thank you for bringing back all of the memories from the many miles of life in the Infantry with this photo:

I'll bet the embedded reporter is whining BIG TIME from having to hump his own crap with these guys. (Or else he's in the HMMV like a little girl with a skinned knee.)

40 posted on 03/28/2003 11:43:49 AM PST by 11B3 (.308 holes make invisible souls. Belt fed liberal eraser.)
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To: Diogenesis
Friday, March 28, 2003

Wounded soldiers describe Iraq ambush

By Marni McEntee, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Friday, March 28, 2003

LANDSTUHL, Germany — Army Staff Sgt. Jamie Villafane discovered the meaning of perfidy on a bridge south of An Nasiriyah, Iraq.

The treachery of Iraqi troops dressed as civilians nearly cost Villafane and his gunner, Sgt. Charles Horgan, their lives.

Villafane, 31, of Long Island, N.Y., doesn’t remember some of what happened, even though the whole fight on Saturday morning took just 10 minutes.

Villafane and Horgan, of Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment, from Fort Benning, Ga., had been ordered to clear half-dozen “unruly” civilians from the bridge over a branch of the Euphrates River.

The Iraqis, wearing black Bedouin robes, were congregating on one bridge, and a few more were on a bridge not far down the river. The Army troops were supposed to secure the bridge and block it, so no one could continue to a nearby airfield.

“We had no idea they were going to ambush us,” said Villafane, who spoke to journalists Thursday at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, where he was taken for treatment. “I didn’t expect it to escalate to what it did.”

Horgan, 21, of Helena, Mont., was manning a .50-calibre machine gun in the Humvee’s turret. Villafane was in the passenger seat.

As the soldiers approached the first bridge, the Iraqi men scattered. Some ran to the team’s left, and some scurried down an embankment under the bridge.

“There was something wrong with them, they appeared jumpy or edgy,” Horgan said. “One had a rifle so I turned the turret. It was just like in the movies.”

Villafane and Horgan both heard the rocket-propelled grenade coming. Someone shouted out “RPG!” But it was too late.

“I heard a whizzing noise, and said to myself, ‘Oh my God, I’m going to die,” Horgan said. “No sooner than I said it, it blew me off the truck.”

The RPG apparently had come from the second bridge.

The blast ripped Villafane from the Humvee as well, and somehow he managed to get up and go back for his M-4 rifle. He had just stood back up when he saw a wire-guided rocket whiz in front of his face.

“It came pretty close,” Villafane said. “I could see the wire as it went by.” The rocket hit an armored Humvee that was working backup for the squad. No one inside was seriously hurt.

As Villafane started firing at the Iraqis, Horgan, whose legs were numb, tried to crawl toward cover.

“I looked down and saw I still had my legs,” Horgan said. “I was pretty relieved about that.”

Then Villafane went under the bridge.

There, he found one Iraqi civilian cowering near a pillar. When the Iraqi saw Villafane, he dropped his assault rifle and put his hands up. Then, three more Iraqis came around a corner and they surrendered, too.

“They were terrified,” Villafane said. “I was not necessarily scared. I was just really annoyed that this was happening to us.”

Later, the men took off their black robes to reveal they were regular Iraqi army troops. One was an officer, based on the stars in his uniform. One was an enlisted man.

“I was disgusted,” Villafane said of the ruse.

Meanwhile, gunfire was still popping around the bridges. Villafane managed to bring the four POWs up onto the road, where they were taken into custody by a crew of a Bradley Fighting Vehicle.

Villafane rushed back to Horgan and found the gunner with a gaping wound in his foot. He picked up the gunner and helped him hop to the Bradley. Once inside, Horgan used a knife to cut open Villafane’s sleeve. Horgan used his field bandage to wrap up the softball-sized hole in Villafane’s arm and his damaged hand.

As Villafane spoke Thursday, wearing his blue hospital gown and slippers, his left arm was heavily bandaged.

He’ll carry the scars from the battle of the bridge for a long time. He’s got pieces of shrapnel lodged in his elbow and had to have a nerve moved from his arm to his hand so he could have feeling around his ring finger.

Horgan said he’s not sure how long it will be before he gets off his crutches. A “sizable” chunk of his foot was blown away by the RPG, he said.

Both are going next to Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, where they will get extensive physical therapy and, perhaps, more rehabilitative surgery.

The Army soldiers shared the podium with Marine Lance Cpl. Joshua Menard of the 2nd Battalion, 8th Marines, from Camp Lejeune, N.C. Menard got shot in the hand while in a different skirmish near Nasiriyah the day after Villafane and Horgan were wounded.

Villafane, who is married with three children, said the fighting confirmed for him that he means to finish his Army hitch and get out. Although he and Horgan both said they wish they were there to help their fellow troops who helped them, they both have no desire to get in the line of fire again.

“We decided that it wasn’t so bad getting shot at,” Villafane said. “It was getting shot that sucked.”


41 posted on 03/28/2003 11:52:27 AM PST by michigander
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks.

5.56mm

42 posted on 03/28/2003 12:48:29 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Redcloak

What's that Biblical Prophecy about the "Image" who had "Feet of clay"?

It appears that the Emperor might be tilting just a bit.

Might we look forward to some Prophecy being fulfilled this very Week?

...Tonight?

43 posted on 03/28/2003 12:49:03 PM PST by Uncle Jaque ("You boys think that War is all glory; I am here to tell you; War is all HELL!" WTS)
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To: Diogenesis

PRAYER IS POWERFUL. PLEASE PRAY NOW! Amen. Today's Bible Message:
"The light of the righteous rejoiceth: but the lamp of the wicked shall be put out." ... "A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident. He that is soon angry dealeth foolishly: and a man of wicked devices is hated." -from THE BIBLE: Proverbs 13:9;14:16-17

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44 posted on 03/28/2003 12:55:05 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All
Thanks for the pictures and posts.



45 posted on 03/28/2003 12:59:05 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: Diogenesis
Ozymandius indeed

Ozymandias

I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

-Percy Bysshe Shelley
1792-1822


46 posted on 03/28/2003 1:01:49 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Cindy; All

47 posted on 03/28/2003 1:02:00 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks so much for your posts. If you every need an idea for captions, much of what you have posted lately is a word picture of below....

8 "Flee out of Babylon; leave the land of the Babylonians, and be like the goats that lead the flock. 9 For I will stir up and bring against Babylon an alliance of great nations from the land of the north. They will take up their positions against her, and from the north she will be captured. Their arrows will be like skilled warriors who do not return empty-handed

.............14 "Take up your positions around Babylon, all you who draw the bow. Shoot at her! Spare no arrows, for she has sinned against the LORD .
15 Shout against her on every side! She surrenders, her towers fall, her walls are torn down.
48 posted on 03/28/2003 1:22:21 PM PST by Scarlet_Pimpernil (Jeremiah 50)
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To: michigander
At the Front: 'Unimaginable' firefight lasts 72 hours

Iraqi troops 'shooting rifles at tanks'

From Walter Rodgers
CNN
Friday, March 28, 2003 Posted: 2:07 PM EST (1907 GMT)

Wheatley: "I went behind the sight with the gunner and we engaged everything we could engage."

CENTRAL IRAQ (CNN) -- Tank machine gunner Sgt. 1st Class Paul Wheatley feels for the Iraqi troops.

As Wheatley and his 3rd Squadron, 7th Cavalry unit rolled up central Iraq's "Machine Gun Alley" this week, they took nearly constant fire. In the dark and in a sandstorm, they took fire.

The Iraqis shot at them for 72 hours with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs). And Wheatley's unit -- Abrams tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles -- routed them.

"It was sad," Wheatley said Thursday. "They were forced to fight against odds they would never have a chance to overcome -- shooting rifles at tanks. They are driving Toyota pickup trucks at Bradleys and tanks. I couldn't even explain it."

Until Thursday, when it was temporarily relieved, the 3-7th was the "tip of the spear," lead element of the 3rd Infantry Division on the way to Baghdad, putting themselves out to receive the first frenzied shots.

The experience left Wheatley stumbling for words: "It's unreal. It's unimaginable. You're constantly almost paranoid. You are paranoid about every turn, every building or every person. And it's a little nerve-wracking at times."

'Blaze of tracers'

During a night ambush, Iraqi troops shot "some RPGs at the convoy we were in, at the column we were in," Wheatley said. His gunners picked up targets on their thermal sites and the fight broke open.

"Just a blaze of tracers coming from both sides of the road and mainly from the left side of the road. ... I went behind the sight with the gunner and we engaged everything we could engage."

Wheatley was handling a medium-size 7.62 mm machine gun.

Bullets ricocheted off the side of his tank. "It was almost like somebody was throwing rocks. But, against the side of a car when you kick up rocks."

"They were probably 150 meters away," he estimated. That far away, "their AK-47s won't do too much damage to a tank."

The RPGs couldn't have done much against the tank either, he said. "If you don't see it and just feel the percussion from it, not much is going to happen. ... But if you're hanging out of the hatch, it could mess you up pretty bad."

Wheatley said he didn't know how many Iraqis he took out. "I wouldn't even begin to guess. Probably 30-35. During that one stretch of road."

Sandstorm skirmish

The next day the unit took more "Machine Gun Alley" fire. The desert winds had kicked up a sandstorm, but the result was the same as the night before.

"We could see through thermal sites," he said. "You could see what was shooting at you. With our gun tube orientation, everybody kept their sector and we kept rolling and we engaged all the way through."

By Wednesday night, he was northeast of Najaf, guarding the Euphrates River bridgehead. The unit stopped there, waiting for reinforcements to catch up.

As reports showed an Iraqi convoy apparently moving their way, Wheatley stood watch. He could feel the blasts of B-52 bombers attacking the convoy. "The wind was blowing bad," he said, "you could feel it more than hear it."

Due to the B-52s, the Iraqi convoy did not reach his unit. Reinforcements arrived the following day.

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was written in accordance with Pentagon ground rules allowing so-called embedded reporting, in which journalists join deployed troops. Among the rules accepted by all participating news organizations is an agreement not to disclose sensitive operational details.

-archy-/-

49 posted on 03/28/2003 2:41:12 PM PST by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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3. However, John stayed behind, out of his fear of Simon, even while his own men were earnest in making a sally upon their enemies without. Yet did not Simon lie still, for he lay near the place of the siege; he brought his engines of war, and disposed of them at due distances upon the wall, both those which they took from Cestius formerly, and those which they got when they seized the garrison that lay in the tower Antonia. But though they had these engines in their possession, they had so little skill in using them, that they were in great measure useless to them; but a few there were who had been taught by deserters how to use them, which they did use, though after an awkward manner. So they cast stones and arrows at those that were making the banks; they also ran out upon them by companies, and fought with them. Now those that were at work covered themselves with hurdles spread over their banks, and their engines were opposed to them when they made their excursions. The engines, that all the legions had ready prepared for them, were admirably contrived; but still more extraordinary ones belonged to the tenth legion: those that threw darts and those that threw stones were more forcible and larger than the rest, by which they not only repelled the excursions of the Jews, but drove those away that were upon the walls also. Now the stones that were cast were of the weight of a talent (1), and were carried two furlongs and further. The blow they gave was no way to be sustained, not only by those that stood first in the way, but by those that were beyond them for a great space. As for the Jews, they at first watched the coming of the stone, for it was of a white color, and could therefore not only be perceived by the great noise it made, but could be seen also before it came by its brightness; accordingly the watchmen that sat upon the towers gave them notice when the engine was let go, and the stone came from it, and cried out aloud, in their own country language, THE STONE COMETH so those that were in its way stood off, and threw themselves down upon the ground; by which means, and by their thus guarding themselves, the stone fell down and did them no harm. But the Romans contrived how to prevent that by blacking the stone, who then could aim at them with success, when the stone was not discerned beforehand, as it had been till then; and so they destroyed many of them at one blow. Yet did not the Jews, under all this distress, permit the Romans to raise their banks in quiet; but they shrewdly and boldly exerted themselves, and repelled them both by night and by day.

1. "The missiles shot by the catapults, stone-throwers, and "quick-firers" flew all over the temple, killing priests and worshipers at the very altar itself. For despite war, the sacrifices went on..." (Josephus - The Essential Writings, Paul L. Maier translator, p.329)

The Roman ballista shot stones, up to 160 pounds in weight, at an angle of about 50 degrees over an average range of 300 to 500 yards. (p.299)

"All the Roman engines were well built, but those belonging to the Tenth legion were most powerful. Their stone -projectors hurled boulders weighing a talent (75-85 pounds) a quarter mile, and the Jews set lookouts on the towers to spot the fired stones which, being white, shone and whizzed as they flew. When they saw the stone discharged, these watchmen would call out, 'Sonny's coming!' ("The stone" in Hebrew is ha-eben, which is easily corrupted to ha-ben, "the son.") - at which those in the line of fire dropped down to let the stone pass through harmlessly. When it occurred to the Romans to blacken them, the stones were more effective, destroying many with a single shot." (p.340)

--The Wars of The Jews,
Book V, Chapter VI, Section 3 (Entire)

50 posted on 03/28/2003 2:53:13 PM PST by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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