KEEP IT TO YOURSELF (Town Major BANS all public displays of Patriotism!)

The Trentonian ^ | March 28, 2003 | Deborah Cannonie, Staff Writer

[gcruse]

in which capacity, the public has access to and use of city hall.

So you can sleep overnight in the courtroom?  I'm impressed.
Meantime, the government uses the town sign to advertise to town,
or to let people know they are approaching it.  Any other
unauthorized use, like festoons, may get whacked.  The court room
works the same way.  You can testify there, but you can't bring
a cot a live there.

[unixfox]

Prohibition only applies to public property,...

So I guess we should take down all flags in court houses, police depts, fire depts, etc,etc...

Sounds like something the ACLU would just love to do.

[Protagoras]

and you left out of few things...

I said this;
I have no doubt the guy has bad motives, but the point is different from what you portray it as.

You said he equated ribbons supporting the troops with nazi flags, that was incorrect, a leap.

I never said it wasn't political, what I said was, "what is good for the goose is good for the gander". And I don't want government to give this guy a platform for his liberal views. State your own views on your own property or be ready to embrace his little anti-war items on government property. You would rightfully be incensed.

[Puppage]

"Take down the ribbons, or I?ll do it for you."

aka SIEG HEIL!!

[general_re]

So you can sleep overnight in the courtroom?

You can use it for its intended purpose. Which, apparently, you can't do with speech in a public forum. Oh, well - guess the King's property is more deserving of protection than the "rights" of the serfs to speak...

Meantime, the government uses the town sign to advertise to town, or to let people know they are approaching it.

Yep. Heaven forfend that anyone other than the government speak in a public manner.

[Protagoras]

So I guess we should take down all flags in court houses, police depts, fire depts, etc,etc...

That doesn't hold water. The flag is a symbol of the government, which owns the property, not a political statement.

If they had banned flags, it would be way different.

[PhilDragoo]

I have no doubt the guy has bad motives

And he pretends otherwise.

We see this in Daschle and Hillary all the time.

The truth is, the mayor perceives it in narrow partisan terms, rather than in a larger patriotic perspective.

[vaudine]

The city doesn't own private businesses, but I gather from the article that private downtown businesses were forbidden to display the yellow ribbons.

The fact that the Dem. mayor admittedly doesn't approve of the war is the reason. All else is just wind.

vaudine

[gcruse]

You can use it for its intended purpose.

Bingo!  Tell 'im what he won, Bob

The intended purpose of the courtroom is court stuff.
The intended purpose of the sign is to identify the town.

Any unintended uses of government property require government consent.

[OldFriend]

Ah yes, it's New Jersey after all. Home of the sopranos, the NJ supreme court, senator lousenberg and senator corzine. etc. etc. etc.

[PhilDragoo]

But even taking that into consideration, it makes me wonder why the mayor and the city council wouldn't want to display the patriotic yellow ribbons on public property.

Because the Democrat mayor and Democrat town council perceive the issue in partisan rather than patriotic terms.

And they will contort in every conveivable position to obscure this fact.

[gcruse]

I gather from the article that private downtown businesses were forbidden

Well, no, dear.

"if those ribbons are placed on public property..."

[PhilDragoo]

The fact that the Dem. mayor admittedly doesn't approve of the war is the reason. All else is just wind.

You have stated the issue in simplest terms.

[Protagoras]

"But I'm not into giving equal time to every liberal cause in the world just so someone can feel good about a ribbon."

true, and it applied to government property and signage and symbols IN CONTEXT. And you know it.

Read your Constitution lately?

Yes, yesterday actually.

By that logic, the government can forbid all assemblies in the town square, the public park, the public library, et cetera. After all, they can just get their own platform, right?

Nonsense, that is illogical. It is specifically stated that the people have the right to peaceable assemble. But governments have always made it conditional. Thats why they haul these creepy anti-war demonstrators away for lying down in the street.

[PhilDragoo]

Ah yes, it's New Jersey after all. Home of the sopranos, the NJ supreme court, senator lousenberg and senator corzine. etc. etc. etc.

And Robert Tell-em-what-they-won-Bob Torricelli.

[gcruse]

The fact that the Dem. mayor admittedly doesn't approve of the war is the reason. All else is just wind.

You have stated the issue in simplest terms.

Well, you have to include the city council, too.  And we aren't
ready to throw over city governments are we?  Let's be content
with overthrowing the UN and NATO.

[usslsm51]

Just liberal demos wanting any hint of the position displayed, that is YELLOW.

[ImphClinton]

Thanks I also found this.

last election:

Fieldsboro

Incumbent Democrat Edward G. Tyler Sr. (137) ran unopposed for a four-year term as mayor. Democrats Jason A. Konek ( 121) and Jonathan B. Norcross (132) were unopposed for two, three-year council seats. Democrats hold the mayor's seat and all six council seats.

His son (Jr.) teaches at in the town as well.

[RogueIsland]

Tyler, a Democrat...

Wow, you don't say.

[OldFriend]

Oh, how could I have forgotten the Torch!!!

But then we had Jeremy Glick too and he more than makes up for the charlatans. I often keep Liz and her precious baby in my prayers.