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I Was Wrong!**A Must Read
Assyrian Christian News ^ | March 26, 2003 | Ken Joseph, Jr.

Posted on 03/28/2003 6:44:28 PM PST by yonif

How do you admit you were wrong? What do you do when you realizethose you were defending in fact did not want your defense and wanted something completely different from you and from the world?

This is my story. It will probably upset everybody - those with whom I have fought for peace all my life and those for whom the decision for war comes a bit too fast.

I am an Assyrian. I was born and raised in Japan where I am the second generation in ministry after my Father came to Japan in answer to General Douglas Macarthur's call for 10,000 young people to help rebuild Japan following the war.

As a minister and due to my personal convictions I have always been against war for any and all reasons. It was precisely this moral conviction that led me to do all I could to stop the current war in Iraq.

From participating in demonstrations against the war in Japan to strongly opposing it on my radio program, on television and in regular columns I did my best to stand against what I thought to be an unjust war against an innocent people - in fact my people.

As an Assyrian I was told the story of our people from a young age. How my grandparents had escaped the great Assyrian Holocaust in 1917 settling finally in Chicago.

Currently there are approximately six million Assyrians - approximately 1.2 million in Iraq and the rest scattered in the Assyrian Diaspora across the world.

Without a country and rights even in our native land it has been the prayer of generations that the Assyrian Nation will one day be restored and the people of the once great Assyrian Empire will once again be home.

It was with that feeling, together with supplies for our Church and family that I went to Iraq to do all I could to help make a difference.

The feeling as I crossed the border was exhilarating - `home at last` thought as I would for the first time visit the land of my forefathers.

The kindness of the border guards when they learned I was Assyrian, the taxi, the people on the street it was like being back `home` after a long absence.

Now I finally know myself! The laid back, relaxed atmosphere, the kindness to strangers, the food, the smells, the language all seemed to trigger a long lost memory somewhere in my deepest DNA.

The first order of business was to attend Church. It was here where my morals were raked over the coals and I was first forced to examine them in the harsh light of reality.

Following a beautiful `Peace` to welcome the Peace Activists in which even the children participated we moved to the next room to have a simple meal.

Sitting next to me was an older man who carefully began to sound me out. Apparently feeling the freedom to talk in the midst of the mingling crowd he suddenly turned to me and said `There is something you should know.` `What` I asked surprised at the sudden comment.

`We didn't want to be here tonight`. he continued. `When the Priest asked us to gather for a Peace Service we said we didn't want to come`. He said.

`What do you mean` I inquired, confused. `We didn't want to come because we don't want peace` he replied.

`What in the world do you mean?` I asked. `How could you not want peace?` `We don't want peace. We want the war to come` he continued.

What in the world are you talking about? I blurted back.

That was the beginning of a strange odyssey that deeply shattered my convictions and moral base but at the same time gave me hope for my people and, in fact, hope for the world.

Beginning that night and continuing on in the private homes of relatives with whom I stayed little by little the scales began to come off my eyes.

I had not realized it but began to realize that all foreigners in Iraq are subject to 24 hour surveillance by government `minders` who arrange all interviews, visits and contact with ordinary Iraqis. Through some fluke either by my invitation as a religious person and or my family connection I was not subject to any government `minders` at any time throughout my stay in Iraq.

As far as I can tell I was the only person including the media, Human Shields and others in Iraq without a Government `minder` there to guard.

What emerged was something so awful that it is difficult even now to write about it. Discussing with the head of our tribe what I should do as I wanted to stay in Baghdad with our people during their time of trial I was told that I could most help the Assyrian cause by going out and telling the story to the outside world.

Simply put, those living in Iraq, the common, regular people are in a living nightmare. From the terror that would come across the faces of my family at a unknown visitor, telephone call, knock at the door I began to realize the horror they lived with every day.

Over and over I questioned them `Why could you want war? Why could any human being desire war?` They're answer was quiet and measured. `Look at our lives!`We are living like animals. No food, no car, no telephone, no job and most of all no hope.`

I would marvel as my family went around their daily routine as normal as could be. Baghdad was completely serene without even a hint of war. Father would get up, have his breakfast and go off to work. The children to school, the old people - ten in the household to their daily chores.

`You can not imagine what it is to live with war for 20, 30 years. We have to keep up our routine or we would lose our minds`

Then I began to see around me those seemingly in every household who had lost their minds. It seemed in every household there was one or more people who in any other society would be in a Mental Hospital and the ever present picture of a family member killed in one of the many wars.

Having been born and raised in Japan where in spite of 50 years of democracy still retains vestiges of the 400 year old police state I quickly began to catch the subtle nuances of a full blown, modern police state.

I wept with family members as I shared their pain and with great difficulty and deep soul searching began little by little to understand their desire for war to finally rid them of the nightmare they were living in.

The terrible price paid in simple, down to earth ways - the family member with a son who just screams all the time, the family member who lost his wife who left unable to cope anymore, the family member going to a daily job with nothing to do, the family member with a son lost to the war, a husband lost to alcoholism the daily, difficult to perceive slow death of people for whom all hope is lost.

The pictures of Sadaam Hussein whom people hailed in the beginning with great hope everywhere. Sadaam Hussein with his hand outstretched. Sadaam Hussein firing his rifle. Sadaam Hussein in his Arab Headdress. Sadaam Hussein in his classic 30 year old picture - one or more of these four pictures seemed to be everywhere on walls, in the middle of the road, in homes, as statues - he was everywhere!

All seeing, all knowing, all encompassing.

`Life is hell. We have no hope. But everything will be ok once the war is over.` The bizarre desire for a war that would rid them of the hopelessness was at best hard to understand.

`Look at it this way. No matter how bad it is we will not all die. We have hoped for some other way but nothing has worked. 12 years ago it went almost all the way but failed. We cannot wait anymore. We want the war and we want it now`

Coming back to family members and telling them of progress in the talks at the United Nations on working some sort of compromise with Iraq I was welcomed not with joy but anger. `No, there is no other way! We want the war! It is the only way he will get out of our lives`

Once again going back to my Japanese roots I began to understand. The stories I had heard from older Japanese of how in a strange way they had welcomed the sight of the bombers in the skies over Japan.

Of course nobody wanted to be bombed but the first sight of the American B29 Bombers signaled to them that the war was coming to an end. An end was in sight. There would be terrible destruction. They might very well die but finally in a tragic way there was finally hope.

Then I began to feel so terrible. Here I had been demonstrating against the war thinking I had been doing it for the very people I was here now with and yet I had not ever bothered to ask them what they wanted. What they wanted me to do.

It was clear now what I should do. I began to talk to the so called `human shields`. Have you asked the people here what they want? Have you talked to regular people, away from your `minder` and asked them what they want?

I was shocked at the response. `We don't need to do that. We know what they want.` was the usual reply before a minder stepped up to check who I was.

With tears streaming down my face in my bed in a tiny house in Baghdad crowded in with 10 other of my own flesh and blood, all exhausted after another day of not living but existing without hope, exhausted in daily struggle simply to not die I had to say to myself `I was wrong`.

How dare I claim to speak for those for whom I had never asked what they wanted!

Then I began a strange journey to do all I could while I could still remain to as asked by our tribe let the world know of the true situation in Iraq. Carefully and with great risk, not just for me but most of all for those who told their story and opened up their homes for the camera I did my best to tape their plight as honestly and simply as I could. Whether I could get that precious tape out of the country was a different story.

Wanting to make sure I was not simply getting the feelings of a long oppressed minority - the Assyrians - I spoke to dozens of people. What I was not prepared for was the sheer terror they felt at speaking out. Over and over again I would be told `We would be killed for speaking like this` and finding out that they would only speak in a private home or where they were absolutely sure through the introduction of another Iraqi that I was not being attended by a minder.

From a former member of the Army to a person working with the police to taxi drivers to store owners to mothers to government officials without exception when allowed to speak freely the message was the same - `Please bring on the war. We are ready. We have suffered long enough. We may lose our lives but some of us will survive and for our children's sake please,, please end our misery.

On the final day for the first time I saw the signs of war. For the first time sandbags began appearing at various government buildings but the solders putting them up and then later standing within the small circle they created gave a clear message they could not dare speak.

They hated it. They despised it. It was their job and they made clear in the way they worked to the common people watching that they were on their side and would not fight.

Near the end of my time a family member brought the word that guns had just been provided to the members of the Baath Party and for the first time we saw the small but growing signs of war.

But what of their feelings towards the United States and Britain? Those feelings are clearly mixed. They have no love for the British or the Americans but they trust them.

`We are not afraid of the American bombing. They will bomb carefully and not purposely target the people. What we are afraid of is Saddam Hussein and what he and the Baath Party will do when the war begins. But even then we want the war. It is the only way to escape our hell. Please tell them to hurry. We have been through war so many times,but this time it will give us hope`.

The final call for help came at the most unexpected place - the border. Sadly, and sent off by the crying members of my family I left. Things were changing by the hour - the normally $100 ride from Baghdad to Amman was first $300 then $500 and by nightfall $1,000.

As we came to the border we began the routine paperwork and then the search of our vehicle. Everything was going well until suddenly the border guard asked if I had any money. We had been carefully instructed to make sure we only carried $300 when we returned so I began to open up the pouch that carried my passport and money stuffed in my shorts.

Suddenly the guard began to pat me down. `Oh, no`! I thought. It`s all over`. We had been told of what happened if you got caught with videotape, a cellular telephone or any kind of electronic equipment that had not been declared.

A trip back to Baghdad, a likely appearance before a judge, in some cases 24-48 hour holding and more.

He immediately found the first videotape stuffed in my pocket and took it out. I could see the expression of terror on the driver as he stifled a scream.

The guard shook his head as he reached into my pocket and took out another tape and then from pocket after pocket began to take out tape after tape, cellular telephone, computer camera - all the wrong things.

We all stood there in sheer terror - for a brief moment experiencing the feeling that beginning with my precious family members every Iraqi feels not for a moment but day and night, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. That terrible feeling that your life is not yours that its fate rests in someone else's hands that simply by the whim of the moment they can determine.

For one born free a terrifying feeling if but for an instant.

As the guard slowly laid out the precious video tape on the desk we all waited in silent terror for the word to be taken back to Baghdad and the beginning of the nightmare.

Suddenly he laid the last videotape down and looked up. His face is frozen in my memory but it was to me the look of sadness, anger and then a final look of quiet satisfaction as he clinically shook his head and quietly without a word handed all the precious videotape - the cry of those without a voice - to me.

He didn't have to say a word. I had learned the language of the imprisoned Iraqi. Forbidden to speak by sheer terror they used the one language they had left - human kindness.

As his hands slowly moved to give the tape over he said in his own way what my Uncle had said, what the taxi driver had said, what the broken old man had said, what the man in the restaurant had said, what the Army man had said, what the man working for the police had said, what the old woman had said, what the young girl had said - he said it for them in the one last message a I crossed the border from tyranny to freedom . . .

Please take these tapes and show them to the world. Please help us . . . . and please hurry!

Ken Joseph Jr is a Assyrian, a Minister and was born and raised and resides in Japan where he directs Assyrianchristians.com


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Ken Joseph Jr. was born and raised in Tokyo, Japan, where his parents met following the call of General Douglas McArthur for 10,000 young Americans to come and help rebuild postwar Japan.

An Assyrian, his grandparents escaped Northern Iraq during the Assyrian Holocaust of 1917 and came to the United States and settled in Chicago.

Ken graduated from the Christian Academy in Japan and Biola University in La Mirada, California, with degrees in Intercultural Communications and Mass Communications, and went on to Talbot Theological Seminary, returning to Japan in 1987.

A Christian minister, Ken Joseph Jr. currently serves as a Pastor at the Narimasu Christ Church, in Tokyo Japan, is Founder & Director of The Japan Helpline, a worldwide 24-hour emergency hotline and relief assistance organization, and is Founder & Director of the Japan-based Keikyo Institute, which studies the historical roots of Christianiaty in Asia.

Ken Joseph Jr, is well known in Japan, where he has just completed his eighth book in Japanese, hosts a radio program, serves as a commentator on numerous television programs, writes regular columns in Japan`s major newspapers, and is much in demand throghout Japan to speak at univerisites, public forums and other gatherings.

He is currently working on a book about his experiences in Iraq and the current situation in the Middle East.

1 posted on 03/28/2003 6:44:28 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
Beautiful report. Thank you for finding and posting it.
2 posted on 03/28/2003 6:58:24 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: yonif
Bookmarked. Thanks, Yoni.
3 posted on 03/28/2003 6:58:51 PM PST by denydenydeny
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Bump...
4 posted on 03/28/2003 7:01:47 PM PST by Lyford
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To: templar; MJY1288; lawgirl; mtngrl@vrwc; Miss Marple; kayak; SevenofNine; Wphile; azGOPgal; ...
Ping.
5 posted on 03/28/2003 7:03:29 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: yonif
Praise God for the miracle at both borders! And I don't mean Allah.
6 posted on 03/28/2003 7:03:56 PM PST by skr (The Butcher of Baghdad is a WMD)
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To: yonif
Wow... I've read bits of his story before, but never in such sad detail. Has there been any discussion about when the tapes will be shown over the air or are they waiting for the war to be over? Anyone know?

Thanks...
7 posted on 03/28/2003 7:04:42 PM PST by Tamzee ("Sabotage" and "Charade"....no French translation necessary.)
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To: yonif
should be in every newspaper around the world
8 posted on 03/28/2003 7:04:59 PM PST by try phecta tom ((Harvey RULES. Paul not the rabbit)
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To: yonif
This is the guy who smuggled the 14 hours of unedited, candid video tape out of Iraq, isn't it?
9 posted on 03/28/2003 7:06:51 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: yonif
An Excellent POST.
BUMP!
10 posted on 03/28/2003 7:11:57 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: yonif
He needs to get on the cable TV circuit ASAP and tell his story.
11 posted on 03/28/2003 7:14:01 PM PST by Russell Scott (Iraqi soldier, is it really worth dying for the Butcher of Baghdad?)
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To: Tamsey
They can't show that tape till after we have control of Iraq. Can you imagine what would happen to those on the tape if Al Jazera (sp?) broadcasted it??

12 posted on 03/28/2003 7:16:55 PM PST by birddog
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To: Russell Scott
He needs to get on the cable TV circuit ASAP and tell his story.

If he did, Saddam would have everyone in the video and their families killed. He should wait until after the regime is dead.

13 posted on 03/28/2003 7:18:08 PM PST by Go Gordon
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To: yonif
great story!
14 posted on 03/28/2003 7:18:46 PM PST by vigilante2
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To: birddog
Can't they at least air the tape of some? I don't want this, and the other tales of former human-shields, to be some sort of urban myth. It is just a concern...
15 posted on 03/28/2003 7:21:01 PM PST by LibertyThug
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To: yonif
Awesome post!!!! Thanks so much for bringing it to us!!!!
16 posted on 03/28/2003 7:22:52 PM PST by BossLady (Liberalism is a mental disorder.....)
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To: yonif
Bump, look liked this guy confronted the arrogance of liberials, he at least had the guts to admit he was wrong. Hopefully he will apply this lesson to other issues.
17 posted on 03/28/2003 7:25:14 PM PST by Leto
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To: yonif; MJY1288
Incredible. Thank you yonif.

18 posted on 03/28/2003 7:26:18 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: yonif
A great article. So few people are honest enough with themselves to change their views when the evidence goes against them!
19 posted on 03/28/2003 7:31:06 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To: yonif
`Look at it this way. No matter how bad it is we will not all die. We have hoped for some other way but nothing has worked. 12 years ago it went almost all the way but failed. We cannot wait anymore. We want the war and we want it now`

Wow.

Our President is the right man at the right time for these peolpe. I pray that he finishes the job and decapitates this vile beast. Every last vestige of the darkness and evil that chokes that nation must be destroyed.

I hope that every one of our service men and women over there realizes this. God bless them too.

20 posted on 03/28/2003 7:34:13 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: yonif
This is the most heart-breaking article I've read -- there has got to be a way for him to get media exposure with his story. If nothing else, it should prompt the media to start pointedly asking the anti-war folk the same question as Ken did of the Human Shields: Do you know for a fact what the Iraqis want, or are you just assuming that you know what's best for them?
21 posted on 03/28/2003 7:34:54 PM PST by babster_bear
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To: patriciaruth; yonif
We should get down on our knees everyday and thank God we have never known a life like the Iraqis and that our children have a future. What a moving piece. Thank you!
22 posted on 03/28/2003 7:38:16 PM PST by McLynnan
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To: kayak
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23 posted on 03/28/2003 7:39:16 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: yonif
I had not ever bothered to ask them what they wanted . . .

If any one sentence captures the essence of this article, I believe the above is it.
How many of those "against the war [for Saddam?]" ) have never asked what do they want?

24 posted on 03/28/2003 7:43:46 PM PST by Diddley (Liberals: If you have a good story, why lie?)
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To: yonif
Wow! What a breathtaking post!

Thank you!

25 posted on 03/28/2003 7:58:05 PM PST by dixiechick2000
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To: Diddley; patriciaruth; Brad's Gramma
That was what jumped out at me in this very powerful piece, Diddley.

Let us pray that somehow this story can come out ... now ... without endangering those who had the courage to speak out ... at least the essence if not all the detail.

Lord, hear our prayers!

26 posted on 03/28/2003 8:00:49 PM PST by kayak (Pray for our President, our military, and our nation!)
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To: dei23; mykdsmom
This truly is a "Must Read".
27 posted on 03/28/2003 8:02:47 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: yoe; Pete-R-Bilt; glock rocks; JohnHuang2; MeeknMing; Sabertooth; Madcelt; Cowgirl; Dog; Nam Vet; ..
ping. This is a great article IMO. A keeper for sure.
28 posted on 03/28/2003 8:10:05 PM PST by B4Ranch (Keep America safe! Thank the troops for our freedom.)
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To: Constitution Day
It has already been posted on FR because I read it this afternoon. Amazing isn't it?

MKM

29 posted on 03/28/2003 8:15:15 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: yonif
WOW!

My best read of the year. Thank you for the post.

30 posted on 03/28/2003 8:19:00 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: yonif
Over and over I questioned them `Why could you want war? Why could any human being desire war?` They're answer was quiet and measured. `Look at our lives!`We are living like animals. No food, no car, no telephone, no job and most of all no hope.`

I've read a lot of these stories of changing minds about the war. But it wasn't until tonight that I was able to feel the yearning of those who desired the war to come. It's as though you can taste their freedom as the Coalition gets closer and closer.

If those who have called themselves "human shields" does not make as big a noise as they did in going to stop the war, they are doing themselves and those yearning for freedom a terrible disservice.

31 posted on 03/28/2003 8:35:29 PM PST by swheats (We will verify who they are and kill 'em. Commander 3rd ID)
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To: yonif
bttt
32 posted on 03/28/2003 8:36:50 PM PST by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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To: yonif
`We don't need to do that. We know what they want.

Bump Bump Bump Bump

Great post. The quote is chilling. Could have come from Hillary, Tom, Charlie, Shelia Jackson-Lee, Maxine, etc.

Prayers for our troops tonight.

33 posted on 03/28/2003 8:40:32 PM PST by centexan
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To: yonif
The tapes are going to be shown on ABC by Barbara Walters

Be sure to watch ABC the week of March 31 - April 4 for an exclusive interview with Ken Joseph, Jr. from Amman, Jordan, and the video stories of the real Iraqis caught in the grip of Saddam's terror machine.

34 posted on 03/28/2003 8:43:24 PM PST by gaucho (Baghdad or bust!)
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To: yonif
This will no doubt be played immediately on abcnbccbscnmbc... /NOT :(
35 posted on 03/28/2003 8:43:25 PM PST by Libertina (God Bless our Commander In Chief and our Troops!)
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To: yonif
He didn't have to say a word. I had learned the language of the imprisoned Iraqi. Forbidden to speak by sheer terror they used the one language they had left - human kindness.

What a heartbreaking piece. I hope he is able to show that tape and let the world know, with irreputible facts the hell those people have endured.

A strong man to admit when he is wrong and to do what he can to correct his assumptions, may he have all the help and freedom he needs to show his story.

36 posted on 03/28/2003 8:45:32 PM PST by RikaStrom
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To: yonif
Folks. This story WILL GET OUT! Go to his church link and you'll find the following:

Be sure to watch ABC the week of March 31 - April 4 for an exclusive interview with Ken Joseph, Jr. from Amman, Jordan, and the video stories of the real Iraqis caught in the grip of Saddam's terror machine.

We will let you know as soon as a date and time is scheduled by ABC. Please check back here for details

I'm assuming they will take every pre-caution to protect those that dared to speak if we haven't stormed Baghdad and hoisted Saddam's head on a pole by then.

37 posted on 03/28/2003 8:56:30 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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Be sure to watch ABC the week of March 31 - April 4 for an exclusive interview with Ken Joseph, Jr. from Amman, Jordan, and the video stories of the real Iraqis caught in the grip of Saddam's terror machine.

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38 posted on 03/28/2003 9:03:27 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: yonif
God bless him for speaking the truth!

And this reminds me... Are there human shields who have stayed in Iraq?
39 posted on 03/28/2003 9:04:41 PM PST by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: yonif
I have met Ken a number of times in Japan. Believe it or not, he is legit.

Ken, IMHO, honestly went to Iraq out of basic concern for those people; he has a long record of humanitarian work to prove he is primarily coming from a human assistance perspective, rather than a radical political perspective like many of the foolish and arrogant "savior-complex" "activists" (human shields) around him who did not fundamentally care about the people.

Actually what is not known here (at least on FR) is the Rev. Ken himself has been a victim of a terrorist attack. That might cause him to be sensitive to the prospect now of the use of chemical weapons on Saddam's own people. Ken himself was on a downtown Tokyo subway one a.m. in early 1990s when the Japanese *Aum Shinrikyo* terrorist sect hit it with "sarin" gas. He had terrible migranes for years afterwards and formed a group of victims. There were more than a thousand wounded in that attack.

Another point. If this does in fact air, I HIGHLY suggest the TV networks blur the faces of those interviewed. They would be in extreme danger in Baghdad from the secret police. I would not put it past some International A.N.S.W.E.R.-type people in the USA to see Ken's videomentary, and then copy and somehow try to get it to Baghdad so they could torture or execute the people he clandestinely interviewed.

40 posted on 03/28/2003 9:05:27 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (After watching days of Uncle Bunker Buster in action, Kim Jong-il is in BAD need of new underwear.)
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To: yonif
Great report.

I really do not understand in my wildest imagination how some people can not, will not realize that peace at any cost is not desirable. I simply can not understand it. There must be some psychological block that stops them from fully grasping the amount of terror that one can experience in the face of tyranny. It must be a class of naivete that is utterly blinding. This is the only way I can begin to understand. They simply are not wise to the ways of the world.

41 posted on 03/28/2003 9:27:54 PM PST by griffin
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Ping.
42 posted on 03/28/2003 9:50:50 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: yonif
Bump
43 posted on 03/28/2003 9:57:13 PM PST by PRND21
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To: yonif
The part that bothers me is that by telling this story he is endangering the people he interviewed. They are going to know who he is and who his family is. This just doesn't sit right with me. I really want the Iraqis to want to be rid of Saddam, but I have to be skeptical given the fact that the Iraqis have had a muted response to coalition troops (I know some of it is from fear of the Ba'ath party, but if the feeling is so common throughout the country, there should be more support).
44 posted on 03/28/2003 10:14:38 PM PST by Dat
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To: yonif
Thank you for posting this. I wish every jerk who opposes the war would be forced to sit and watch or read this story.
45 posted on 03/28/2003 10:43:34 PM PST by jcmfreedom
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To: B4Ranch; Republic
Please take these tapes and show them to the world. Please help us . . . . and please hurry!

Wow, powerful! Edmund Burke stated, "Among a people generally corrupt liberty cannot long exist." Hopefully, the corrupt people will soon be gone.

Thanks for the ping.

46 posted on 03/28/2003 11:00:42 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Thank you for providing that perspective on Ken. May God protect his family and friends!
47 posted on 03/28/2003 11:27:35 PM PST by kayak (Pray for our President, our military, and our nation!)
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To: yonif
bump
48 posted on 03/28/2003 11:38:21 PM PST by expatguy
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To: gaucho
Be sure to watch ABC the week of March 31 - April 4 for an exclusive interview with Ken Joseph, Jr. from Amman, Jordan, and the video stories of the real Iraqis caught in the grip of Saddam's terror machine.

I hope their faces are pixellated and voices disguised.

49 posted on 03/29/2003 12:10:34 AM PST by exDemMom (US Navy, 1980-1984 & W in '04)
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To: B4Ranch
Wow. You're right. This is a really good article. Even better than THIS ONE about the Naive Human Shield posted a short time back . . .
50 posted on 03/29/2003 4:37:37 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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