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Way Too Many Vanities (Updated)
March 29, 2003 | Admin Moderator

Posted on 03/29/2003 4:52:10 PM PST by Admin Moderator

Edited on 03/31/2003 3:26:01 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

There have been way too many vanities lately. The news forum is being overrun with them. We have been spending a lot of time moving them to the General Interest ("Chat") forum. With the increased volume we have seen with the war starting, we have been missing mail and other moderator duties, such as zots. So, here's some guidelines for vanities. Of course, there are exceptions to these guidelines. We have seen some great vanities.

Vanities are never posted in breaking news. Exceptions will be from valid news sources where breaking news is happening immediately. Such as 'CNN just reported Baghdad has been overrun by coalition forces'. Or, 'Fox reports that WMD have been discovered in Saddam's palace by embedded reporter'.

Your one line vanites, for the most part can be posted as a comment on an existing thread. If you want to post a one line vanity, post it in the chat forum. One line vanities consist of but are not limited to, 'Did you just hear that guy on KASD?'. Or, 'Does anyone know where that thread is about that women who said something about chemical weapons'. They will be deleted unless they are posted in the chat forum.

Most emails are not valid sources of news. Who knows where they originated from. They will be deleted unless they are posted in the chat forum.

Most humor threads should go to the chat forum, unless they are relevent to current events and news. Jokes and 'caption this' are also included. They will be deleted unless they are posted in the chat forum.

Freep this polls will be moved to chat depending on their revelance to current events.

Thanks for helping. Free Republic is growing faster than ever right now!


WHERE IS CHAT?

At the upper right hand side of the latest posts or latest thread, you will see a menu which looks something like this:

Campaign Central
General Interest (also known as 'chat')
News/Activism
Religion
RLC Liberty Caucus
The Smokey Backroom
VetsCoR

To post an article in any of these forums, just click on that forum, and post your article. They all work the same way.


Reference threads:

On War Images
Announcement Regarding the Breaking News Posting Category
New Numbers for the Curious (or FR Traffic Stats)
Loose Lips Sinks Ships
Welcome, and Thanks [Newbies Especially, Please Read]
Help us out, please search before posting an article.
Regarding Graphics During Heavy Free Republic Traffic
Topic Abuse, Particularly Activism
Traffic Rank for freerepublic.com (alexa)
a colorful comparison of daily site statistics
The Ultimate Sidebar Management Thread


TOPICS: Announcements; Free Republic; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adminlectureseries; faq; vanities; zot
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To: Admin Moderator
I agree with the idea that you will never get people to put things in the "chat forum" unless you rename that forum "chat forum". I have been on Free Republic for years and today is the first time I realized that "chat forum" referred to General Interest. I thought you had some secret forum that only those in the know had access to.

I also can't figure out how to get "latest posts" to include ALL latest posts and not just latest posts from one forum or the other.

Thanks.
201 posted on 03/31/2003 7:37:44 AM PST by OK
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To: Admin Moderator
This is sounding like the "I" before "E" rule....its getting very confusing.

Are you saying that if someone posts a real "breaking news" story...you can't post a "vanity" post to that breaking news story or someone's reply?

202 posted on 03/31/2003 7:38:04 AM PST by Heff
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To: OK
I also can't figure out how to get "latest posts" to include ALL latest posts and not just latest posts from one forum or the other.

You can't. You'll always get the latest posts in the forum you are in.

In fact, that was the whole point of creating separate forums--to categorize latest posts into specific categories.

203 posted on 03/31/2003 7:42:26 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Admin Moderator
>>I'm sure you all will have more questions, so fire away!


Why are so many long-time FReepers posting so many vanities? Every time I see one, I think, "Dang, there goes another clueless fool who's not paying attention!"
204 posted on 03/31/2003 7:44:20 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Admin Moderator

205 posted on 03/31/2003 7:48:25 AM PST by Fighting Irish
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To: Admin Moderator
Along the same lines: Can't you guys create a special place for stories on Pro-America rallies? The rallies are important, and they are not getting the coverage they deserve in the media. But we know about them, because we are the ones organizing and attending them. When every single breaking story is about a freedom rally in des Moines, I can't help but feel that I am not hearing about something more important.
206 posted on 03/31/2003 8:45:45 AM PST by WaveThatFlag
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To: Admin Moderator
It says news/activism. Does that mean we can post Rally for America announcements here?
207 posted on 03/31/2003 8:59:35 AM PST by TaxRelief (this thread is starting to look like a singles pick-up joint)
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To: TaxRelief
Yes, but not in breaking news. Announcement Regarding the Breaking News Posting Category
208 posted on 03/31/2003 9:00:55 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: WaveThatFlag
We have a catagory. Just set 'activism' as your sidebar.

The Ultimate Sidebar Management Thread.

209 posted on 03/31/2003 9:02:53 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Are there any plans, or am I missing it perhaps, to have a lastests posts which shows latest posts from all the areas (ie all on one page instead of going to each section manually)?
210 posted on 03/31/2003 9:16:41 AM PST by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: Admin Moderator; coder2
While we're at it, is there a way to have a blanket rule against starting new threads that say "Freep this Poll."


We all have eyes, we all surf the web, we'll Freep the polls we want to Freep -- if indeed we want to at all. I think it's mostly a waste of time to play such cyberwar games.
211 posted on 03/31/2003 12:16:35 PM PST by FreeTheHostages
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To: Admin Moderator
I guess you need an MBB for this one.
212 posted on 03/31/2003 1:24:25 PM PST by MtHLancerFan
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To: Admin Moderator
Maybe you should try a FMEA.
213 posted on 03/31/2003 1:25:12 PM PST by MtHLancerFan
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To: Admin Moderator
I appreciate all your efforts to streamline this forum in times of high use but there seems a simpler solution.

When someone posts a vanity, revoke their posting priveleges for the duration of the war. After the war welcome them warmly back into the group.

At first the effort will be considerable, but probably no more than you're expending now, but within a short while the small percentage that repeatedly offend will be gone and the rest will get the message.

Thanks for your efforts.

214 posted on 03/31/2003 1:26:52 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Admin Moderator
I'm hungry, have to go to the bathroom, need a drink, want to whine, and need an attitude adjustment. Can we pull over for two or three hours?
215 posted on 03/31/2003 1:30:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: MtHLancerFan
ARGH! Never!
216 posted on 03/31/2003 1:32:14 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: DoughtyOne
Jim has considered a pause for 4-6 days. We're in deep consultations with Gerry and Pete.
217 posted on 03/31/2003 1:33:38 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
I agree. It's kind of hard to separate the wheat from the shaff at this site. Any action by you to remove more of these vanity threads would be appreciated (that is - except for mine which are very, very important!)

218 posted on 03/31/2003 1:48:20 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Dog Gone; Admin Moderator

"You guys
REALLY need to rename
the General Interest forum

the   Chat   forum."





DITTO !!

219 posted on 03/31/2003 1:48:49 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: Admin Moderator
That's it, a pause. Didn't I see CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC pushing the same thing a few days back? LOL
220 posted on 03/31/2003 1:55:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: brityank; John Robinson
Let's ask the guy who has the keys to the car. John, please consider renaming the 'General Interest' forum to 'Chat'.
221 posted on 03/31/2003 2:36:42 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: FreeTheHostages
That along with the "Caption this Photo Threads"
222 posted on 03/31/2003 2:38:25 PM PST by Neets (Mess with me and you'll be introduced to my big ole can of MOAB.)
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To: Admin Moderator
ARE WE THERE YET????
223 posted on 03/31/2003 2:38:48 PM PST by Neets (Mess with me and you'll be introduced to my big ole can of MOAB.)
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To: Neets
Oh, yes please, good point. "Caption this photo" and "freep this poll" are *so* obviously things that if just HAVE to say them, you can say them in a pre-existing thread and minimize the injury to the rest of us! :D
224 posted on 03/31/2003 2:41:50 PM PST by FreeTheHostages
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To: FreeTheHostages
I'm not against those threads...I just think they should be moved to the "Chat" side.
225 posted on 03/31/2003 2:45:16 PM PST by Neets (Mess with me and you'll be introduced to my big ole can of MOAB.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Considering the RPN is approaching 1000, someone probably ought to address this issue.
226 posted on 03/31/2003 3:10:51 PM PST by MtHLancerFan
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To: MtHLancerFan
That's so sad. I know exactly what you're saying.
227 posted on 03/31/2003 3:33:48 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Neets
I'm not against those threads...I just think they should be moved to the "Chat" side.

Nah, they may be OK as posts, but as a basis for an entirely new thread, I'm against them! I think they should be moved to the "Loser Thread I'll Regret Posting This" side. ;)
228 posted on 03/31/2003 4:30:21 PM PST by FreeTheHostages
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To: Admin Moderator
"Thanks for helping. Free Republic is growing faster than ever right now!"

That is true and some of the vanity is good. Sometimes it leads to other things in the following posts!
229 posted on 03/31/2003 4:55:18 PM PST by Imperialist
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To: Admin Moderator
So if you know exactly what I'm saying, then do something about it.
230 posted on 03/31/2003 5:15:23 PM PST by MtHLancerFan
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To: tutstar
I know it's probably weird but I kind of enjoy the Zots!

Well, here you go, then!



Oh, did I get that right?

231 posted on 03/31/2003 5:49:36 PM PST by unspun ("Well I'm proud to be a FReeper, where at least I know I'm an American; and I won't forget....")
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To: Admin Moderator
Did I not get that right?
232 posted on 03/31/2003 5:53:40 PM PST by unspun ("Well I'm proud to be a FReeper, where at least I know I'm an American; and I won't forget....")
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To: Admin Moderator; John Robinson; Dog Gone
Thanks; it will make it easier on everyone to standardize the section to the common name, else you guys should be saying "Put it in 'General Interest."
233 posted on 03/31/2003 6:38:03 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: Admin Moderator
BTTT
234 posted on 03/31/2003 6:52:40 PM PST by sharktrager
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To: tutstar
I am new here and have never posted. Please don't laugh at me but I have a stupid question. What is a ping,a bump, and a zot???? Thanks!
235 posted on 03/31/2003 8:04:39 PM PST by ShootMeIfHillaryRuns (ok you can laugh as long as you still answer me)
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To: ShootMeIfHillaryRuns
teeheehee.....took me a while to figure some of this stuff out....
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/profile?u=66513
This is the Admin Moderator's profile page and will explain the Zot....

bump...is like an 'amen' and sends the article to the top of the latests posts (bttt is bump to the top)

ping is when you want to alert another Freeper to the thread, you put the Freepers screenname in the reply box and ping in your reply box
236 posted on 03/31/2003 8:08:28 PM PST by tutstar
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To: Admin Moderator
Interesting, I tried to post a thread about the economic impact of the elimination of OPEC after we turn on the spigots in Iraq...didn't get moved to chat, where it could be discussed...just got "pulled".

Some people are interested in economics, particularly where this conflict is concerned.

237 posted on 03/31/2003 8:11:39 PM PST by demsux
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To: Admin Moderator
Please be aware of individuals levelling false charges in the threads. I have seen several threads where individuals attempt to argue that others in the thread are delegitimate due to various reasons.

These people are attempting to break up your website by creating mistrust and by creating chaos in your site.

You should be doing IP logging in order to correct the problem.
238 posted on 03/31/2003 8:36:36 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: tutstar
Thank you so much!! I have been wanting to ask this for days but could not find a place to really ask it without feeling stupid!! Thanks again!!
239 posted on 03/31/2003 8:39:03 PM PST by ShootMeIfHillaryRuns (if you can't laugh at yourself you can always laugh at your spouse)
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To: South40
or

"CNN newsroom overrun by coalition forces..."

240 posted on 03/31/2003 8:46:22 PM PST by Rain-maker
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To: brityank; Admin Moderator
While I agree that for clarity's sake that stuff should be referred to by either one name or the other, I don't think the word "chat" is the way to go. In the online world, "chat" has a very specific definition and uses a specific type of technology. A "chat room," which involves real-time discussion, is quite different from a "forum."

In other words, nobody should ever have started using "chat" to describe the General Interest forum in the first place. THAT'S the main reason people are so confused when they hear references to "chat" at Free Republic -- they assume it means what it means everywhere else, but then they can't find any such thing here.
241 posted on 03/31/2003 9:57:22 PM PST by wizzler
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To: Admin Moderator
Well maybe it's about time we had a "Bonfire of the Vanities."
242 posted on 03/31/2003 10:28:56 PM PST by Contra
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To: Admin Moderator
Please rename the "General Interest" forum to the "Cheese" forum. Thankyou.


243 posted on 03/31/2003 10:48:10 PM PST by WSGilcrest (R)
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To: Admin Moderator
Too many people are getting zotted lately due to having a "wrong" opinion. People are also reading things into posts that simply aren't there because they are all wound up due to this war.

It's seems as if any debate is out of the question. I miss the old days of FR.

244 posted on 04/01/2003 2:25:25 AM PST by DBtoo
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To: Admin Moderator; Dog Gone
You guys REALLY need to rename the General Interest forum the Chat forum.

Either that, or quit referring to it as chat. Many people, especially new members, have NO idea where to find the illusory Chat forum.

I'm not a newbie... and this is the first time I've been able to ascertain what "chat" was... I second DogG's motion.

245 posted on 04/01/2003 3:13:32 AM PST by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: Admin Moderator; wardaddy; Rebelbase; Xenalyte
Guilty. Can I ban me? ZOT!
246 posted on 04/01/2003 4:01:42 AM PST by weikel (Walter Cronkite the most distrusted reporter in America)
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To: WSGilcrest; weikel; Texaggie79; realpatriot71; Tennessee_Bob
We like the moon . . . 'cause it is close to us . . .
247 posted on 04/01/2003 6:35:48 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
Whats this we stuff? I hate the moon and will destroy it muhahahahahahaha, the tides will rage uncontrolled the coasts of the world will be covered in Tsunamis hahahahahahahahaha.
248 posted on 04/01/2003 6:38:39 AM PST by weikel (Ever notice how the Paleos and the Dem/Commies have the same talking points on the Iraq war)
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To: weikel
You are a damn weirdo, Beavis.
249 posted on 04/01/2003 6:48:31 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
Do you have tp for me bunghulio? The streets will flow with the blood of the unbelievers.
250 posted on 04/01/2003 7:04:26 AM PST by weikel (Ever notice how the Paleos and the Dem/Commies have the same talking points on the Iraq war)
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