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A CHILLING DISCOVERY
CNN ^ | 03/30/2003 | Sundry

Posted on 03/30/2003 3:18:22 AM PST by Glenn

CNN.com - Bloodied U.S. battle fatigues discovered - Mar. 30, 2003

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Bloodied U.S. battle fatigues believed to be those of some of an ambushed Army maintenance unit were found in a hospital in Nasiriya, Iraq, according to a Pentagon official.

The uniforms, found by U.S. troops who took over the hospital, appeared to have had their name tags and flag patches ripped off, perhaps to hide the identity of their owners, the official said.

The troops also discovered what appeared to be a torture device made of a metal cot and a car battery.

The uniforms appear to belong to some of the members of the Army's 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company, who were ambushed March 23 in Nasiriya. Two soldiers were known to have been killed. Eight others are missing, and five were taken as prisoners of war.

Meanwhile, U.S. Central Command announced Saturday that two Marines have been killed in separate incidents in Iraq.

Central Command said one Marine from the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force was killed late Friday night when he was hit by a Humvee during a firefight with Iraqi soldiers in south-central Iraq.

The other Marine, also from the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, drowned early Friday when the Humvee in which he was riding rolled over into a canal in south-central Iraq.

Marines at the scene tried for 30 minutes to revive him, Central Command's statement said.

Overnight and into early Sunday, U.S.-led coalition airstrikes continued across Iraq, with force commanders stressing they were emphasizing precision strikes on Iraqi regime, military and "irregular" targets.

Flashes lit up the night sky above Baghdad, and Mosul and Kalak in northern Iraq, as explosions were heard in all three cities.

The bombing of the northern cities in the last 24 hours is the most intense in the area since the war started.

In Baghdad, coalition forces dropped satellite-guided munitions on two surface-to-air missile complexes. Central Command said coalition aircraft also bombed the main training facility of the Iraqi paramilitary forces in Ar Rustamiyah, eastern Baghdad. The forces in that area are in charge of security functions in eastern Baghdad, Central Command said.

The U.S. military said it also targeted command-and-control facilities at the Abu Garayb Presidential Palace and two facilities at the Karada Intelligence Complex.

The Karada complex is on the banks of the Tigris River in southern Baghdad.

A few hours later, at least four large explosions rocked a residential compound northwest of the Information Ministry, where many government officials live.

The threat from Iraqi "irregulars" was emphasized earlier Saturday when a suicide bomber blew up his car at a military checkpoint in the central Iraqi town of Najaf, killing four U.S. soldiers with the 3rd Infantry Division, military officials said.

Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan said at a news conference Saturday that coalition forces could expect more suicide bombings and praised "every martyr that aims to protect their land." Sunday morning, Iraq TV announced that President Saddam Hussein would give the family of the man who carried out Saturday's attack 100 million dinars, or about $35,000. (Full story)

The foreign minister of Iran also aimed threatening words at the United States, warning Sunday that "the worst days are yet to come" in Iraq.

Kamal Kharrazi used as one example suicide bombings, which he said likely will escalate. He also accused U.S. officials of miscalculating how much the Iraqis would welcome the invading military.

"The reality of the truth is that regardless how much the Iraqi people are disgruntled with their regime and with their government, still they would not want or allow a government imposed on them by foreigners," he told reporters at the Foreign Ministry in Tehran.

Despite those threats, U.S. Central Command Director of Operations Maj. Gen. Victor Renuart said the suicide attack would not change the coalition's operational strategy but added that it was still under review.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 507th; genevaconvention; iraq; iraqifreedom; mistreatedprisoners; nasiriyah; pow; pows; torture; warcrime; warcrimes
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Take off the gloves, Rummy! I don't ever want to read another article like this!
1 posted on 03/30/2003 3:18:22 AM PST by Glenn
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To: Glenn
CNN... Notice no mention of the 19yr old girl?
2 posted on 03/30/2003 3:21:28 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
I'm very concerned about her and all the POW's ... given what the Iraqi army did to people in Kuwait, including visiting stewardesses from outher countries that landed there, Kuwaiti women and the citizens in general, I am very concerned ... prayerful, but hoping against hope ...
3 posted on 03/30/2003 3:25:20 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: Glenn
I saw the torture room footage on TV Friday...I was wondering why people have not been commenting on it earlier.

They showed the battery hooked up to the metal cot--and adjacent to that bloody US Army fatigue uniform remains.

It doesn't take a mental giant to figure it out.

4 posted on 03/30/2003 3:28:22 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
I saw the torture room footage on TV Friday...I was wondering why people have not been commenting on it earlier.

Who was reporting it? In a revolt against Comcast, I only have the basic channels and can't see the 24 hour news stations.

6 posted on 03/30/2003 3:30:07 AM PST by Glenn
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To: Glenn
Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn, damn, damn, damn, damn, DAMN!
7 posted on 03/30/2003 3:31:24 AM PST by mhking
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To: sit-rep
CNN... Notice no mention of the 19yr old girl? Yeah, it's sad. This woman has likely been violated and killed by camel humping scumbags. It makes me ill. CNN needs to get off the ole standby the that US is evil and stop slanting their news in that fashion. -Mal
8 posted on 03/30/2003 3:33:37 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua
CNN = Chicken Littles News Network
9 posted on 03/30/2003 3:35:03 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Glenn
The foreign minister of Iran also aimed threatening words at the United States, warning Sunday that "the worst days are yet to come" in Iraq.

He's got that exactly right. But instead of "threatening" the U.S., he should be warning Saddam and his band of thugs.

10 posted on 03/30/2003 3:35:09 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Glenn
Take off the gloves, Rummy!

Doubtful. Duhhbya is too worried about his image in the world to let Rummy do that.

11 posted on 03/30/2003 3:38:23 AM PST by oldvike
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To: Glenn
The troops also discovered what appeared to be a torture device made of a metal cot and a car battery.

And to think, Rangel, Dashchel, and other Democrats support these people. I wonder if the "anti-war" people are "anti-torture US troops" people as well?

12 posted on 03/30/2003 3:38:29 AM PST by libertylover (Republican, because I care.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

This was on Fox News last week. Rush even mentioned something to the effect that the battery found in the torture room was made in France. Nice of CNN to finally get around to reporting this.
13 posted on 03/30/2003 3:39:14 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
Rush even mentioned something to the effect that the battery found in the torture room was made in France.

I suspect when all is said and done, we will find more dastardly things than batteries which were made in France.

14 posted on 03/30/2003 3:41:19 AM PST by oldvike
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To: SkyPilot
There's a thread on the battery somewhere.
15 posted on 03/30/2003 3:44:16 AM PST by MEG33
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To: Glenn

16 posted on 03/30/2003 3:45:27 AM PST by Spruce
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To: SkyPilot

A car battery adjacent to a metal bed frame is evidence of Iraqi torturers' work.

U.S. BODY MAY REVEAL ‘TORTURE HOSPITAL' SECRETS

17 posted on 03/30/2003 3:47:56 AM PST by clouda
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To: Glenn
He also accused U.S. officials of miscalculating how much the Iraqis would welcome the invading military.

He got this straight out of the liberal American press. Thank you WashP, NYT, SFCh,LAt, etc.

18 posted on 03/30/2003 3:56:09 AM PST by patj
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To: clouda; Glenn; JohnHuang2; Sabertooth; MeeknMing

coulda--thanks for that link tothe NY Post. We need you big time pingers---John, Meek, Saberkitty...can you help us?

Glenn, I saw the footage Friday...I believe it was Good Morning America.

The "Embeds" (embedded reporters) are serving us well...again. Help us get the word out on this horrific but must be told story.

19 posted on 03/30/2003 4:25:29 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: MEG33
MEG--there is one thread about the batter....HERE.

There is another...let me find it.....be right back.

20 posted on 03/30/2003 4:29:50 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: MEG33
other thread HERE
21 posted on 03/30/2003 4:30:57 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Bobby777
My sentiments, exactly.
22 posted on 03/30/2003 4:36:55 AM PST by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: SkyPilot
Words can't express how angry this makes me. To say these guys are animals would be offensive to animals worldwide! G-r-r-r ! . . .
23 posted on 03/30/2003 4:50:57 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Glenn; SkyPilot; Alamo-Girl; onyx; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; Fred Mertz; ...
A CHILLING DISCOVERY

Excerpt:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Bloodied U.S. battle fatigues believed to be those of some of an ambushed Army maintenance unit were found in a hospital in Nasiriya, Iraq, according to a Pentagon official.

The uniforms, found by U.S. troops who took over the hospital, appeared to have had their name tags and flag patches ripped off, perhaps to hide the identity of their owners, the official said.

The troops also discovered what appeared to be a torture device made of a metal cot and a car battery.

The uniforms appear to belong to some of the members of the Army's 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company, who were ambushed March 23 in Nasiriya. Two soldiers were known to have been killed. Eight others are missing, and five were taken as prisoners of war.

A car battery adjacent to a metal bed frame is evidence of Iraqi torturers' work.



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.

24 posted on 03/30/2003 4:54:27 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Glenn
As you consider this article, remember France is on the fence as to which side should win this war.
25 posted on 03/30/2003 5:03:14 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
remember France is on the fence as to which side should win this war.

Maybe because they see their culture going into the freefall that jihadi's did centuries ago.

26 posted on 03/30/2003 5:07:45 AM PST by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
>>...remember France is on the fence as to which side should win this war...<<

A man who sits on the fence too long will cut off circulation to his "manhood".

27 posted on 03/30/2003 5:08:08 AM PST by FReepaholic
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To: tscislaw
But that assumes the French had any manhood to begin with. That case has not been made.
28 posted on 03/30/2003 5:13:28 AM PST by twntaipan (FR to Saddam: Next time keep Rather! Please!!!)
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To: oldvike
"Doubtful. Duhhbya is too worried about his image in the world to let Rummy do that."

No, the President is one hell of a lot smarter than you to give in to a knee-jerk reaction.

Let me splain it to you nice and clear...our precision strikes are tearing up the Thugs with minimal casaulties to civilians and collateral damage. This is precisely what the Thugs fear. That is why they hide behind the civilians. That is why they are butchering their own people as well as our troops that they capture. They are trying to get us to play the game at their level.

So far, thanks to the President's leadership, along with the cooler heads in the military, we are playing our game...not theirs...and we are winning.

You should be thinking, not reacting. That is why he is the President and you are just..., well, just an oldvike.

29 posted on 03/30/2003 5:23:49 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: twntaipan
But that assumes the French had any manhood to begin with. That case has not been made. .............................
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Hans Blix is still LOOKING for them.
30 posted on 03/30/2003 5:31:27 AM PST by YOMO
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To: Glenn
And the bastards at CNN find nothing wrong with describing what the torture device was made out of? Do they have no regard whatsoever for the families of these POW's?!!?
31 posted on 03/30/2003 5:35:54 AM PST by thunders (proud fiance of a USMC Reservist, who, thankfully, is at home with me...for now....)
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To: thunders
Ok, I will admit it is "nice" to be able to shove in the face of all the Saddam-lovers out there....but I still feel terrible for the families who have seen this...
32 posted on 03/30/2003 5:38:26 AM PST by thunders (proud fiance of a USMC Reservist, who, thankfully, is at home with me...for now....)
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To: Glenn; EternalVigilance

33 posted on 03/30/2003 5:39:34 AM PST by Alouette
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To: oldvike
Take your BS knee-jerk posts somewhere else. I'd like to see your IQ scores compared to his. Just because you mispronounce a few words doesn't mean jack as far as intelligence is concerned.

W concerned about his image in the world? Yeah, that must be why we're still waiting around for UN approval for this.

Moron.....
34 posted on 03/30/2003 5:48:11 AM PST by The Coopster
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To: Alouette
The discussion of this from a couple of nights ago:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/879038/posts?page=97#97
35 posted on 03/30/2003 5:52:32 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: YOMO
He's considering a new report to the UN Security Council to report that there is no evidence whatsoever that the French ever had any in the first place.
36 posted on 03/30/2003 5:53:20 AM PST by twntaipan (FR to Saddam: Next time keep Rather! Please!!!)
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To: oldvike
We are upset to imagine any soldier be lost because of the win over the population campaign. Months from now the wisdom of that may save lives. We will be there for a long while.
37 posted on 03/30/2003 5:55:17 AM PST by MEG33
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To: Glenn; MikeUSAF

Captured and posted by freeper mikeusaf.

38 posted on 03/30/2003 6:04:26 AM PST by Semper911 (For some people, bread and circus are not enough. Hence, FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Malsua
I propose we offer to trade Christianne Amanpour for the 19 year old. They would never hurt Amanpour she is in their camp.
39 posted on 03/30/2003 6:11:08 AM PST by Liberty
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To: MEG33; The Coopster; Redleg Duke
Actually, I was probably a little hard on the President in my post. I'm just sick and tired of our troops being forced to fight a politically correct war.

I'm also tired of people like Charlie Rangel publicly saying that our troops are TARGETING civilians, yet the President refuses to call that scumbag out on the carpet. That pisses me off.

40 posted on 03/30/2003 6:13:09 AM PST by oldvike
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To: Glenn
Can anyone explain to me how a 12 volt battery is used to give someone electric shocks??
41 posted on 03/30/2003 6:25:29 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
Can anyone explain to me how a 12 volt battery is used to give someone electric shocks??

It's not the volts. Its the amps. Starting a 200 horsepower motor from a dead stop takes some amps. It would hurt pretty good.

42 posted on 03/30/2003 6:29:00 AM PST by Glenn
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To: Glenn
Did anyone happen to notice that the camera (when covering this story on tv one night) pulled back just far enough so you could start to read the word "FRANCE" on the side of the battery????

WE did.

Grrrrh!

NordP

43 posted on 03/30/2003 6:29:44 AM PST by NordP (Did you see what Saddam did with his nerve agent, to the Beagle puppies? He's dead meat!)
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To: Glenn
Get a dish,screw the cable company....
44 posted on 03/30/2003 6:30:54 AM PST by GregB
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To: All
This will teach me to read all the way through, b/4 posting my comments.

I should have known you all would be on to this!

45 posted on 03/30/2003 6:33:24 AM PST by NordP (Did you see what Saddam did with his nerve agent, to the Beagle puppies? He's dead meat!)
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To: Glenn
Why is this characterized as "chilling" when it makes the blood boil?

And your response is............

46 posted on 03/30/2003 6:37:20 AM PST by verity
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To: MeeknMing
This man & his close followers know no depths to which their sickness would sink...Prayer for those troops especially....for their safe return and for good treatment. They need it.
47 posted on 03/30/2003 7:01:44 AM PST by cherry_bomb88 (Prayers for our troops!)
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To: NordP
Hey --- did anyone notice this???

We went to the MSNBC website and looked at their video footage of this...THEY BLURRED OUT THE WORD, "FRANCE!" It was originally in red letters, and you could see it. We paused the footage and IT NO LONGER SAYS "FRANCE" ---can you believe it???

And they wonder why people watch FNC?

http://www.msnbc.com/news/889604.asp?0sl=-32&cp1=1#BODY -- sorry forgot how to do linking.

It's right after the interview with the Marine...they pan down to the battery...

My husband edits video for a living - THEY BLURRED OUT THE WORD, FRANCE....What the he!! does MSNBC have to gain by helping France???? NordP

48 posted on 03/30/2003 7:03:55 AM PST by NordP (Did you see what Saddam did with his nerve agent, to the Beagle puppies? He's dead meat!)
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To: Malsua; Glenn; MeeknMing
Hard to get off the "us is evil" stance when one of your LARGEST stockholders is a Saudi national....ya think there's a little biased there????? Ted Turner giving Hanoi Jane her own network for this war?????
49 posted on 03/30/2003 7:04:32 AM PST by cherry_bomb88 (Prayers for our troops!)
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To: libertylover
Hannity took Rangel to task about supporting the troops when he is one of the ones that helped desimate the military and gut it out during the Clinton years....Rush took a couple of those "peaceniks" who called in with their BS of "I support the troops" and asked them "who'd you vote for???....you can't support the troops if you vote for people who cut the military spending!"
50 posted on 03/30/2003 7:07:00 AM PST by cherry_bomb88 (Prayers for our troops!)
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