Canada suffers fiscal fallout (Due to anti-war stand)

Canoe.ca ^ | 03-30-03 | KATHLEEN HARRIS

[veronica]

OTTAWA -- Canada is losing millions of dollars from corporate America because of the federal government's anti-war stand.

Anthony Pollard, president of the Hotel Association of Canada, said the U.S. cancellations explain, in no uncertain terms, they are not coming here because we are not backing the George W. Bush government.

"Very clearly, they say it's because of our lack of support for America. They have told us outright, 'We're not coming because of this,' " Pollard said.

Bus tour groups have also started to cancel trips, leaving Pollard worried the business trend will flow to the tourist market.

With 239,000 employees working in hotels across the country, Pollard is encouraging staff to write the federal government raising concerns.

"The chronic and sad fact is that we could be capitalizing on the U.S. visitor when they would typically wish to travel here as opposed to Europe and other overseas markets in times of and following global conflict," his letter to the government reads.

"Instead it appears as if we will miss this opportunity entirely."

Last year, more than 16 million Americans crossed the border to the north, pouring $8.5 billion into the Canadian economy.

Pollard also blames chronic anti-American rhetoric from politicians for straining relations.

[oscharbob]

What does Pollard expect????????
I would not spend one cent in Canada right now!






oscharbob

[jackbill]

Don't you hate when that happens?

[xJones]

Pollard also blames chronic anti-American rhetoric from politicians for straining relations.

It's the chronic cheap shots from Chretain and his Laborite government that's causing the backlash. It's okay if the Canadian govt. doesn't want to send troops to Iraq, but Chretain & goons could act like allies and SHUT UP with the nasty comments.

[veronica]

Don't you hate when that happens?

No. :)

[DeFault User]

We have endured the little kicks in the shins, but when they started aiming higher, they got our attention and our cancellations.

[Flyer]

Canada and Mexico are like giant leeches attached to our great Nation.

[abclily]

My family has traveled across Canada nearly every summer for the past 10 years on our way to northern Maine and back. We tried to make as few stops as possible in Quebec Province, since we never really felt welcome in that part of Canada. We will never travel across any part of Canada again.

[Beck_isright]

C'est la vie. Sucks to be a French colony at this time.

V

[crazykatz]

"The chronic and sad fact is that we could be capitalizing on the U.S. visitor when they would typically wish to travel here as opposed to Europe and other overseas markets in times of and following global conflict," his letter to the government reads.

"Instead it appears as if we will miss this opportunity entirely."

Too bad, so sad.... booo hoo!!

That cretin prime minister is the real problem and the loosey sorry, liberals that run the country!!

But, hey... somebody MUST have voted for them.

Hope they lose their jobs, their homes and their PRIDE in being liberal canadians.

[alice_in_bubbaland]

BUMP! I won't even spend a dime on anything sold by a Canadian on EBAY!

[Ciexyz]

I bought the 2003 Travel Canada Guide some months ago with thoughts of vacationing in Canada this summer. But I won't go unless the political situation improves between the US and the leftiekook Cretin regime.

[RWG]

Border towns ought to start showing displeasure with snow birds and other linguine spined throwbacks.

[proud American in Canada]

The average Canadian, particularly the average English-speaking Canadian, is shamed by the actions of Jean Chretien and his government. Thousands of people turned out on a cold (45 degrees) and rainy day yesterday to protest:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/879446/posts

Jean Chretien doesn't care what's in the best interests of his party. He just cares about Quebec and the Liberal party and most of all, his own self-interest. Quebec is a huge problem for Canada:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/878577/posts

[xJones]

Western Canada, most particularly Alberta, is a whole different bunch. The problem is that Western Canadians are out-numbered, and therefore out-voted by Eastern Canadians. Pro-America rallies have been held in Western Canada, but they're trapped with a liberal government. It's sort of like the eight years we suffered under Clinton. He was voted in twice, to the great pain of conservatives. And we have to gear up for the 2004 election, with Gore, Hillary, etc. hovering like vultures, or else we won't be any better off.

[shezza]

People with disposable income and businesses looking to do business have a right to choose how to spend that $$. Why wouldn't they refuse to "reward" an outspoken critic of our country? Makes perfect sense to me.

In fact, the whole anti-American Axis of Weasels and their groupies are going to see just how dependant they really on American business and tourist dollars. (I can hear them now: "Wait, come back! I didn't really mean it when I said I hated you! Come on, give me another chance! Please??")

[Rockitz]

Canada- sponging off of the US for over 200 years.

[Snowyman]

Western Canada, most particularly Alberta, is a whole different bunch.

Not really. If you look you'll find a huge majority are one generation or less removed from Ontario or the Maritimes.

[Bubba_Leroy]

Western Canada, most particularly Alberta, is a whole different bunch.

How about we swap Canada San Fancisco for Western Canada and call it even?

[longtermmemmory]

Time for Western Canadian provinces to join the United States.

http://www.unitednorthamerica.org

[xJones]

If you look you'll find a huge majority are one generation or less removed from Ontario or the Maritimes.

I wasn't talking about ethnic descent, I was referring to attitudes and political voting patterns.

[Canadian Outrage]

AGREED!! Snowyman is all bent outta shape because I don't care for Quebec. In fact, according to him I'm a bigot. Never once in my escoriation of Quebec did I say that every person in Quebec is bad. I know a couple of French Canadians who are nice. But Quebec as a whole has blackmailed the entire Country for far too long. THAT is a PROVEN FACT!!

[Snowyman]

So was I.

[ODDITHER]

My Dear Canadian neighbors. I wish I could say that I do not hold the good citizens of Canada responsible for their government's actions, but I do.

After all, Canada over the years, has chose to decrease their once wonderful military to a paltry 85,000 soldiers. You felt comfortable doing this because you knew we would always be there for you. You chose to spend your revenues on socialistic programs instead of self-defence, knowing that your good neighbors to the south would run to your aid if something ever happened.

Until you replace your government with a government that more closely mirrors the basic ideals of the Canadian citizens, you are just as much part of the problem as your feckless leaders.

Until the Canadian citizens become as empassioned as their American neighbors, we will continue to see a decline in the goodwill between the countries.

I for one, will continue to support those companies of those countries that are part of the coalition of the willing. England, Spain, Italy and Poland are just a few.

Unfortunately, many good Canadian companies and individuals will be hurt in the process, but until the funds that flow upwords to the corrupt officials is cut off, your government officials will continue with their anti-American and anti-Canadian rhetoric and actions.

The sooner you replace the liberals in your government, the sooner we can resume our close ties.

[Former Proud Canadian]

An intelligent (not) government policy results in, less jobs for Canadians.

And that's why I remain a........

[muslims=borg]

Life's a bitch ...what did they expect? You don't stab your friends in the back if you want to keep them.

[Great Dane]

I think the rhetoric was almost the worst part, such venom from so many liberal politicians, I have never heard the likes of it.
There will be no need to expand our convention center, there won't be any use for it.

[Great Dane]

BUMP! I won't even spend a dime on anything sold by a Canadian on EBAY!

Not to worry, I think E-Bay already told we Canadians to take a hike. :-}

[Great Dane]

How about we swap Canada San Fancisco for Western Canada and call it even?

Nah........ But you can have Quebec for freeeeeeeeeee.

[RightOnGOP]

Yes, I am a perfect example. Wanted to revisit Paris, but decided many months ago, their behavior precluded any of my money being spent there. Thought Canada would be good alternative, and you could at least drive home, in the event of terrorism. Won't be visiting Canada, hope they wake up before it's too late. We're their best friend, back-door neighbor, and they could benefit from this, instead of cutting off their nose to spite their face.

[AFPhys]

Dittos in spades.

Thank God the good Americans have been paying attention to who our friends are. I hope they maintain this virtual boycott/slowdown for long enough to get the point across to the bloody liberal idiots who have been taking advantage of us, and that they remember the fallout of this the next time we ask for the assistance of our allies.

[FreeCanuckistan]

"Sucks to be a French colony at this time."

We'll deal with our Liberals as you continue to deal with your Democrats.

What "sucks" actually, is finding you lurking through CDN threads.....bashing and spreading your 'V'd.....at every given opportunity. Keep your disease to yourself.

You could use a big burly 'right-winger' following you into the boards.

Tighten your chin-strap.

[FreeCanuckistan]

And those you talk about in the West that "are one generation or less removed from Ontario or the Maritimes"......also happen to be people with the 'will and resolve' to seek something unknown and better, than what they knew.....from where they were.

Most are a different, daring breed.

[listenhillary]

Pass on my thanks to the protesting freedom fighters. It's good to see.

[Snowyman]

Most are a different, daring breed.

Only in myth. No more than anyone else. And there is nothing wrong with that.

Sorry, but I've known many Westerners, socially and in business. I have many relatives west of Regina. Just like everyone else.

[FreeCanuckistan]

Don't be sorry.....get some practical experience. I've spent 15 yrs of my life in BC and Alberta.

They are a daring breed.

As you are not.

[Snowyman]

. I've spent 15 yrs of my life in BC and Alberta.

Well, Whip-de-doo!

Go disagree with someone who cares where you grew up.

[ez]

Wanted to revisit Paris, but decided many months ago, their behavior precluded any of my money being spent there. Thought Canada would be good alternative, and you could at least drive home, in the event of terrorism. Won't be visiting Canada, hope they wake up before it's too late.

Good call. Spend your money right here in the good ol USA.

[Beck_isright]

"We'll deal with our Liberals as you continue to deal with your Democrats."

Number of branches of government the Demorats control on the Federal level: Zero
Number of branches of government in my state the Demorats control: Zero

"What "sucks" actually, is finding you lurking through CDN threads."

Last time I checked, FR is an AMERICAN BOARD, using AMERICAN BANDWIDTH. Buy your own server if you hate me that much.

"Keep your disease to yourself."

That statement is more appropriate for Eurosocialism, the modern version of communism. Your nation is infested with it east of Thunder Bay. Perhaps you should spend a greater effort cleaning up your own house before worrying about what I say or do.

"You could use a big burly 'right-winger' following you into the boards."

That I am very concerned about. Not so much as a cross check, but I might catch SARS because your nation refuses to tighten immigration controls. I guess if another 3000 of our citizens or yours die, then maybe PM Yellow Stain might actually do something, but I doubt it. Grow up and get a life dude. WE endured the slams for 8 years. You can't handle it for 8 days, especially when your nation's government is 100% in the wrong, and the citizens and business owners are going to pay the price in the long term.

V

[FreeCanuckistan]

"Well, Whip-de-doo!"

You started disagreeing in post #18.

I've 'called' you on your knowledge which you've based on hearsay, not practical experience.......which might have helped you mature into becoming more coherent, and a less of a 'know it all' kinda guy.

So try growing-up and understanding that, erroneous claims are open to challenge.

[FreeCanuckistan]

I've read many of your misguided posts.....including a multitude of them that defended Turkey and chastised those who disagreed with your 'poor-take', on what that countries eventual actions would be......Beck_waswrong.

You've also tried telling people about Debka.com........you've held them out to be some kind of reliable news source......Beck_waswrong.

After those early 'strike-outs', it seems you've chosen a safer 'mark' for your rants.....and it's Canada now.

Tell me all you want about the Democrats lack of "control on the Federal level".....or your "states" level. It matters only until the next election.....your Dems are strong and dangerous, and have gotten you and us, where we are today. Keep them out of power......and don't worry about our Liberals, they ride the coat-tails of your's.

I'm also not the first Canadian that you've informed that "FR is an AMERICAN BOARD, using AMERICAN BANDWIDTH."......have you been sanctioned by the good folks at Freerepublic to cheerfully inform us of this?......If not, SHUT YOUR TRAP.

You also seem to take issue with another comment I made......."Keep your disease to yourself".

If it's not a disease, tell me what it is. This is a great conservative news forum.....I find other's in here to be free of what you seem to have. You carry a contagion and seem intent to spread it......I betcha it won't 'fly'.

"Grow up and get a life dude"

You know nothing about my life.....but I know enough about yours, to surmise how ignorant and bitter you are. You're spending your time sparring with conservative Canadians, that support the US in a conservative forum.....How bright is that? Try invading canoe.ca......there's a huge Liberal anti-American contigent there that you can 'moon' on a daily basis.

[FreeCanuckistan]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/880265/posts

More Canadian FReepers that you can 'gnaw-on'.

[Beck_isright]

"I've read many of your misguided posts.....including a multitude of them that defended Turkey and chastised those who disagreed with your 'poor-take', on what that countries eventual actions would be......Beck_waswrong."

Sigh. Obviously another Francomisconception. I've been assailing Turkey for two weeks now for their decision. I've also stated that they will pay the price when the U.S. and their new buddies the German and French turn their backs when the hard decisions occur on Cyprus. But I guess since you're such an expert on my posts, you just didn't have time to read all of them...FreeMisguidedstan_iswrong

"You've also tried telling people about Debka.com........you've held them out to be some kind of reliable news source......Beck_waswrong."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA...quote one post where I wasn't being sarcastic about "DEBKA"? Obviously once again, you've been drinking too much French whine.....Free_Canuckliarstan_iswrong

"Tell me all you want about the Democrats lack of "control on the Federal level".....or your "states" level. It matters only until the next election.....your Dems are strong and dangerous, and have gotten you and us, where we are today. Keep them out of power......and don't worry about our Liberals, they ride the coat-tails of your's."

They will continue to be out of power because their "leadership" like yours made a serious miscalculation in attacking the President right before and during a time of war. The huddled masses, known as the middle, looks very unfavorably on this, and will remember this as we begin the front against Iran after this phase of the war is over.

"I'm also not the first Canadian that you've informed that "FR is an AMERICAN BOARD, using AMERICAN BANDWIDTH."......have you been sanctioned by the good folks at Freerepublic to cheerfully inform us of this?......If not, SHUT YOUR TRAP."

I don't have to. I live here. I have contributed as an anonymous donor to Jim Robinson's fine works. What have you done other than bash American patriotism? If you read this current thread you will see you are in a distinct minority. I've just invited you to move on if you don't like what you are reading. I don't believe you'll be allowed to own that "proverbial" gun to hold to your head soon up there to keep you here, so why are you mouthing off against the Patriotic American movement? Like we tell the anti-war scum; love it or leave it. I'll run my trap until I feel I need to shut up. You have been invited to do the same; just preferably using Canadian socialist provided bandwidth.

"You also seem to take issue with another comment I made......."Keep your disease to yourself".

If it's not a disease, tell me what it is. This is a great conservative news forum.....I find other's in here to be free of what you seem to have. You carry a contagion and seem intent to spread it......I betcha it won't 'fly'."

It's a disease called having given 20 years of service to my nation. A disease of groaning when former Canaidan servicemen who I know tell me they are ashamed of their nation. A disease known as loving their country and taking strong offense when foreigners think they know what is best for our way of life and our citizens. We have never surrendered that and you can not shame us into it just because your nation has. I'll take my disease over that of lazy socialism. We're not perfect. You're nation is drifting into the darkness of Eurosocialism and will alienate the one ally to your south for a generation to come if it is not stopped.

"You know nothing about my life.....but I know enough about yours, to surmise how ignorant and bitter you are."

Personally, I could care less about your life or your nation. Your nation has betrayed us during a time of war which threatens freedom worldwide. We made a mistake in 1939 by sitting on the sidelines. Now, because we learned from that mistake, we have a right to be bitter because your nation, above all, should have retained that lesson.

"You're spending your time sparring with conservative Canadians, that support the US in a conservative forum.....How bright is that? Try invading canoe.ca......there's a huge Liberal anti-American contigent there that you can 'moon' on a daily basis."

I have only "attacked" those ignorant individuals who have attacked me. I have attacked the nation of Canada and it's leadership much like I have that of Russia, Germany, Belgium , France and Mexico also. Your nation has shamed itself in our eyes. If you can not accept that, then perhaps you should move on to "canoe.ca" whatever that is. I have better things to do with my time than to waste it on a liberal board. Perhaps you should focus on the problems in your nation INSTEAD of coming on to an AMERICAN board to whine about YOUR governments failings. We're solving our problems politically, economically (although not fast enough for me) and militarily. As usual, the socialists that rule your nation are playing the "me too" role to try to scalp some contracts from the nation we liberate; without dropping one drop of blood or sweat from your politicians or military.

V

[Beck_isright]

Watch out with your posts; you might heart a Chretien's feelings....

V

[Snowyman]

"erroneous claims are open to challenge"

Erroneous claims ? As a former Westerner you're more daring because you lived there for 15 years or because the large part of population is composed of former Easterners who daringly moved west?

Westerners that dared to become the first socialists or Westerners that , each and everyone, has dared to benefit from Ottawa Equalization payments ?

. Ontario can't say that. Ontario has always paid in , never taken out. Daring, might just have something to do with that fact but I doubt you'd understand that. On the other hand Toronto must have something going for it the West doesn't. You're there.

hearsay, not practical experience

Got news for you Sonny. I was in the Canadian West buying stocker cattle and cows 30 yeas ago and I didn't have to wear pointy boots with high heels or a oversized hat pretending I knew what Burdizzo pinchers were to do it. The scale at Moosomin was my second home. I doubt if you know what real daring is.

Maturity , ell, you're the only one on this board immature enough to use insults when facts fail. .

[Snowyman]

The Crouton doesn't have feelings. Just a thin crust and hot air.

[FreeCanuckistan]

You sure have time to write long letters. Like I said......you rant and rant.

As far as Turkey was concerned....you blindly rode the Turkish bandwagon gnawing on those who opposed you until when?

"I've been assailing Turkey for two weeks now for their decision".

Pretty impressive....two whole weeks! Looks to me that you 'switched horses' pretty quick, and you're srtictly the victim of popular opinion. Nothing smart about that at all......and I hold you in that esteem.

As for myself, I've warned in this forum......"FRIENDS DON'T BLEED FRIENDS" since the start of this year, and rather articulately pointed out that Turkey was not a reliable ally to the US. That's original conviction......something you're incapable of.

What you do, is rant and rant.....quite unlike most others in this forum. I've read enough of your posts to be remarkably unimpressed.

The rest of your post to me is pretty dumb and loaded with baseless accusation.

Let's work with it.

"Francomisconception".....nice word, not a Franc.

"Bash American patriotism".....another good one.....surely you're not an attorney. Read my posts.....Absolutely nothing but pro-American, except for the odd stain like yourself.

"French whine".....nope, bourbon or rye with ice.

A small collection of your childish ranting, name-calling and lonely life for the record.

Keep your head up.....hear the wind whistle through.

[FreeCanuckistan]

"As a former Westerner you're more daring because you lived there for 15 years, or because the large part of population is composed of former Easterners who daringly moved west?"

B....Easterner who daringly moved west. Not clear enough for you?

"Westerners that dared to become the first socialists or Westerners that, each and everyone, has dared to benefit from Ottawa Equalization payments."

Don't Equalization payments sound socialist to you? They do to me.....the West can do better without a Canada that includes Quebec and Ontario pleasing policies.

"On the other hand Toronto must have something going for it the West doesn't."

It's called home and family.....perhaps you relate.

"I doubt if you know what real daring is."

Might 12 years of driving through BC as an independant.....and selling a busload of insurance, mutual funds, RIF's and annuities from Osoyoos to Fort Nelson and meeting thousands of strangers qualify as daring, let alone enterprising?........You think buying "stocker cattle" is some kind of intellectual credification?

So what facts have failed me?.....You never said.