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Christopher Dickey on CNN: It's Over, We've Already Lost In Iraq and Whole Arab World (BARF ALERT)
CNN Newsnight ^ | March 30, 2003 | Christopher Dickey / Aaron Brown

Posted on 03/30/2003 12:08:03 PM PST by Timesink

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

AARON BROWN: We were talking about these forces that are coming into the region and whether they'll be there for a post war Iraq or whether they will be there to continue the war. This question of whether the war is on schedule or not seems to be dominating the news cycle these days. Is it on schedule? Are wars ever on schedule?


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aaronbrown; arabstreet; barfalert; bullsht; cablenewsnetwork; christopherdickey; cnn; iraq; mediahysteria; saddam
Well, I guess that's it then. Let's just pack up and go home and wait for the inevitable repercussions.
1 posted on 03/30/2003 12:08:03 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Did Aaron Brown nod off during the interview? He seems to be exhaused..for the last several years.
2 posted on 03/30/2003 12:12:22 PM PST by Voltage
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To: Timesink
This is all about one thing--hoping that Bush will be a failure so that the Democrats can reclaim the White House in the 2004 election. Apart from that, they don't care about Iraq.

Their hero Joseph Stalin might not have been so successful in rallying the Russians to fight the German invasion if the Germans had not been so brutal to the "inferior" Slavs in the regions they overran.

3 posted on 03/30/2003 12:16:13 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Timesink
DICK CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm confident that our troops will be successful and I think it will go relatively quickly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Weeks, months.

CHENEY: But we can't count on that -- weeks rather than months.

Media leftists act as though this is some sort of "smoking gun". I must've missed the part where Chenye said "this will absolutely be over in under 11 days.

If it wasn't for Free Republic, I wouldn't know what CNN and Chinese Embassy bomber Wesley Clark were saying. Not that that's a bad thing. I'd rather hear it from y'all than hear it from those smug lowlifes.

4 posted on 03/30/2003 12:16:17 PM PST by WarSlut
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To: Timesink
Is it - it's one of the things that's different around here to be honest. - Honesty from CNN?
5 posted on 03/30/2003 12:17:09 PM PST by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: WarSlut
Chenye = Cheney. My apologies, Mr. Vice President.
6 posted on 03/30/2003 12:17:33 PM PST by WarSlut
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To: Timesink
Well, this means we must give up, right?



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7 posted on 03/30/2003 12:19:26 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.)
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To: Timesink
I see from his bio that Mr. Dickey's also Newsweek's Paris bureau chief, and during the Gulf War as a reporter he "explained the Arab point of view."

We're talking experience.

8 posted on 03/30/2003 12:19:27 PM PST by GeneD
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To: WarSlut
God, I love your name.
9 posted on 03/30/2003 12:20:15 PM PST by Timesink (If you use the word "embedded" in a conversation, you'd better be carrying an x-ray to show me.)
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To: Timesink

10 posted on 03/30/2003 12:22:19 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Timesink
Your headline is phony, and much of what Brown says has some potential validity, except the bit that it would all be different if the UN (Security Council) had sanctioned it all. I don't think that would make a rat's ass of difference. The real point is despite all, we had to do this anyway. We had no other viable option. Sometimes all the options suck to varying degrees. One then has to pick the option with the lowest "suckness" quotient. That's life in the big city.
11 posted on 03/30/2003 12:22:23 PM PST by Torie
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To: Timesink
not so much CNN, but there are other American networks that make this sound like it's a football game and make it look like it's a video game.

I'd love to know which networks Mr. Dick, excuse me, Dickey, thinks he's watching for war coverage - MTV? Nickelodeon?

12 posted on 03/30/2003 12:22:48 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: Voltage
Did Aaron Brown nod off during the interview?

Last night he had this insufferable jerk from the History Channel on yelling that the U.S. will pay for the carnage we've inflicted on Iraq - accusing the U.S. of war crimes. CNN is worse than Al Jazeera. They go beyond freedom of the press. At this point they are clearly giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

13 posted on 03/30/2003 12:23:01 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: Timesink
OH NO! OH NO! We are LOSING! Not in control of Basra, how can we say we have made any progress? We must withdraw, NOW! The anti-war protesters were RIGHT! We may even cause some women and children to die, oh, why, WHY, did we ever come over here? Oh, the guilt, the guilt, I just can't STAND it!

Oil just isn't WORTH all this. If they would only stop, everybody could stop driving huge SUV's and simply dress warmer in the winter. We don't NEED the accursed oil.
14 posted on 03/30/2003 12:25:09 PM PST by alloysteel
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To: Timesink
Well, isn't Chris Dickey swell? Apparently he hasn't really noticed that Syria is the only neighbor of Iraq that doesn't quietly support this war.

Turkey allows overflights. Iran is still an enemy of Iraq and has imprisoned those Iraqi government and irregular troops who have fled there. The Saudis provide some basing and transit rights. The rest of the Gulf states are nearly all whole-heartedly behind the war.

Jordan has gone so far, so I've heard, as to allow British troops and possibly American as well to pass through Jordan to attack Iraq.

Russia talks loudly, but they know that Chechnyan rebels have been supported in some small way from Iraq.
15 posted on 03/30/2003 12:25:47 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: Timesink
Oh Newsweek. Now I understand.
16 posted on 03/30/2003 12:30:02 PM PST by ampat
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To: Torie
Your headline is phony

My headline isn't phony. It's perfectly acceptable to use whatever headline you want on a partial cut-and-paste of a much larger transcript, when using the headline tacked on by the 21-year-old FDCH transcriber, not anyone at CNN would not properly explain to the FR reader what the transcript is about.

And much of what Brown says has some potential validity...

I was unaware I was complaining about Aaron Brown.

17 posted on 03/30/2003 12:31:39 PM PST by Timesink (If you use the word "embedded" in a conversation, you'd better be carrying an x-ray to show me.)
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To: Timesink
I meant Dickey actually, not Brown. I don't like creative headlines unless they are labeled as such, or obvious from the context. Your headline made it seem like a quote from Dickey. It wasn't.
18 posted on 03/30/2003 12:33:39 PM PST by Torie
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To: alloysteel
Oil just isn't WORTH all this. If they would only stop, everybody could stop driving huge SUV's and simply dress warmer in the winter. We don't NEED the accursed oil.

An easy way to shut up TV news morons that start bitching about "oil": Remind them that videotape is made out of polyester, which is made from petroleum. Film? Petroleum. DVDs? Petroleum. Without oil, they couldn't exist.

19 posted on 03/30/2003 12:37:41 PM PST by Timesink (If you use the word "embedded" in a conversation, you'd better be carrying an x-ray to show me.)
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To: Timesink
NPR interviewed this guy last week. He fits the marbled mouthed, snooty agenda perfectly.
20 posted on 03/30/2003 12:39:06 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (It'll all come out in the wash.)
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To: Torie
Well, I was being creative, I'll give you that. :)
21 posted on 03/30/2003 12:39:27 PM PST by Timesink (If you use the word "embedded" in a conversation, you'd better be carrying an x-ray to show me.)
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To: Torie
the headline catches the tone quite well ... all it needed was "doom-n-gloom alert" added.

22 posted on 03/30/2003 12:41:59 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq! God Bless our Troops!)
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To: Diogenesis
May the Iraqis in this picture know freedom from Saddam and his death squads. May our brave soldiers liberate and bring medicine, food and hope for the people of Iraq.
23 posted on 03/30/2003 12:47:38 PM PST by faithincowboys (God Bless Our Troops!)
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To: Verginius Rufus
truth. IIRC, the russian peasants DID welcome the germans as liberators initially, but the germans blew it by being even more brutal than the stalinists had been. had the germans been civil to the slavs, that winter in russia would not have ended operation barbarossa.
24 posted on 03/30/2003 12:49:32 PM PST by demosthenes the elder (scum will never cease to be scum - why must that be explained to anyone?)
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To: Timesink
Thanks.

I'm listening to PJ O'Rourke audio you posted the other day. Great stuff.
25 posted on 03/30/2003 12:54:40 PM PST by WarSlut
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To: Timesink
THIS is Brown's and Dickkey's goal:

THEY are one's presenting this image of America, then complaining that America has this image. (All the while cursing Fox for showing the broad truth.....)

What people in the United States maybe don't appreciate, although everyone has written stories about it and American television has talked about it, is the incredible divergence that exists now between what the rest of the world sees on its television screens and what the American audience is seeing, not so much CNN, but there are other American networks that make this sound like it's a football game and make it look like it's a video game.

26 posted on 03/30/2003 1:01:23 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (ABCNNBCBS Lie!)
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To: WOSG
From article: Now there's just mounting anger.

All this doom and gloom and mounting anger... Just so much psychological projection on the part of the liberals. They are simply describing their own angst disguised as war commentary.

27 posted on 03/30/2003 1:03:58 PM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: Torie
Your headline is phony

I understoof that the headline wasn't a direct quote, but a (slightly) tongue-in-cheek summary of Dickey's Gloom n' Doom Report before I opened the thread.

28 posted on 03/30/2003 1:08:38 PM PST by WarSlut
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To: Torie
I don't like creative headlines unless they are labeled as such, or obvious from the context. Your headline made it seem like a quote from Dickey. It wasn't.

I agree. I really don't appreciate misleading headlines on Free Republic.

I wasted time searching through the transcript, looking for the part where Dickey said "It's Over, We've Already Lost In Iraq and Whole Arab World". That would have been a hell of a quote, and a leading contender for the 2003 Von Hoffman award. Instead all I found was the standard pessimism.

29 posted on 03/30/2003 1:08:54 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: Voltage
Did Aaron Brown nod off during the interview? He seems to be exhaused..for the last several years.

Wouldn't an interview of Daschle by Brown be something? Who's head would hit the desk first?


BROWN: Disappointing. The clumsiness of the ...zzzz.... diplomacy. [little finger goes pensively to corner of mouth]


DASCHLE: Well Aaron, I'm saddened [looking down at desk, hands folded], and terribly, terribly disappointed at the failure... zzzz..., the clumsiness...


-KLUNK-
-KLUNK-

30 posted on 03/30/2003 1:15:03 PM PST by FredZarguna
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To: Timesink
Sounds like Christopher Dickey ought to join Chris Matthews in putting his Mickey Mouse PJs on and climbing into bed, and sticking his head under the covers of his bomb-shelter/home.

To play it safe, somebody will have to fax him with a memo telling him when it's safe to come on out.

31 posted on 03/30/2003 1:17:41 PM PST by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: Verginius Rufus
"Their hero Joseph Stalin"

Yes, actually Stalin was on the right side against Hitler, who betrayed him. Also, the Nazi's were certainly not trying to liberate Russia.

The guy in this article needs to buck the f*ck up. Sheez, the one thing about this war that is making me ill is KNOWING that if we had to fight Hitler and the Japs with the current generation we'd be doomed. Thank God those in the Military are younger. People my age, the boomers, we should lay down in the streets and die of shame. Baby boomers suck. That's it, we do. I'm ashamed of my generation yet again.
32 posted on 03/30/2003 1:21:59 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Timesink
WHat qualifies this Dick... I am sorry, Dickey, to make predictions about the future. It's hard to call poltical "science" a science capable of predictions, but he is not even that: he is a reporter. Perhaps, he should shut up, pick up his tape recorder and go do his job.
33 posted on 03/30/2003 2:46:46 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: jocon307
A really good antidote to this crap is Ralph Peter's article in today's NY Post...read it...and relax.

The Iraqis, and the Arabs as a people, are blaming the US for their own inadequacies. Watch for what he said would happen when the Iraqis show their pleasure at post-war Iraq: they will be called lackeys of the US...as they rebuild and begin to dominate the ME because of a combination of democracy and capitalism.
34 posted on 03/30/2003 2:57:30 PM PST by Keith
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To: Keith
RAT MEDIA WISHFUL THINKING!!
35 posted on 03/30/2003 3:25:06 PM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: WarSlut
can you give me a link to the pj o'rourke audio? thanks
36 posted on 03/30/2003 3:47:42 PM PST by perfect stranger (I like to leave this area blank.)
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To: WarSlut
can you give me a link to the pj o'rourke audio? thanks
37 posted on 03/30/2003 3:48:55 PM PST by perfect stranger (I like to leave this area blank.)
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To: perfect stranger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/877089/posts

That's the link to the thread, the audio link is in Timesink's post.

17 minutes of PJ. Enjoy.
38 posted on 03/30/2003 3:55:51 PM PST by WarSlut
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To: Timesink
How can these people be so stupid ...??

I can get on the internet and find all the answers to all of the questions they were asking. Why can't they ...??

I just find this incredibly ignorant and irresponsible!!
39 posted on 03/30/2003 4:47:45 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: Verginius Rufus
BUMP
40 posted on 03/30/2003 6:55:34 PM PST by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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