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"Chemical Ali" killed in allied targetedattack? (Debka)
Debka ^ | April 1, 2003 | Debka

Posted on 03/31/2003 11:44:09 PM PST by FairOpinion

US Intelligence believes Saddam’s cousin - Gen. Ali Hassan al Majid, “Chemical Ali” and nephew called Rakan were killed in allied targeted attack Monday on Iraqi military convoy near Ash Shatra


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chemical; chemicalali; debka; iraq; saddam; weapons
I hope it's true. We know there were earlier news articles that the Marines were hunting him. He was a very important target, hope we got him. From earlier news reports:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_766088.html?menu=news.wariniraq

US marines target 'Chemical Ali'

US Marines have targeted Saddam Hussein's notorious henchman Chemical Ali in a raid using precision-guided bombs, tanks and helicopter gunships.

They launched a raid on Shatra, a town just north of Nassiriya, and their targets included Ali Hassan al-Majid, a cousin of the Iraqi leader.

Al-Majid, known as Chemical Ali, was responsible for using chemical weapons against Kurds in Iraq in 1988 and remains one of Saddam's most trusted and feared aides.

He was believed to be heavily involved in organising the current paramilitary resistance to coalition forces.

The US Marines struck in Shatra at dawn after tip-offs that Al-Majid and other senior Baath Party members were there.

They were believed to be organising raids on US supply lines.

The Marines who carried out the raid had been heading north for Baghdad but turned round to focus on Shatra to help secure the supply lines, military sources said.

Reuters reporter Sean Maguire, embedded with the US Marines, said precision bombs hit four targets in Shatra before tanks, armoured personnel carriers and helicopter gunships firing machine guns moved in.

1 posted on 03/31/2003 11:44:09 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Re #1

We will see. It is about time that one of these guys turns up dead.

2 posted on 03/31/2003 11:47:16 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: FairOpinion
Is Targetedattack closer to Tikrit or to Baghdad?





3 posted on 03/31/2003 11:47:52 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: FairOpinion
This guy is like a cockroach....

We keep killing him and he pops up alive somewhere else....

He's died in the bunker the first night, Basra the first week, a Bagdad raid and in the field a few days ago.....

Now this report....

Hope our Marines got him this time for good....

NeverGore
4 posted on 03/31/2003 11:48:59 PM PST by nevergore (If stupidity hurt, Frenchmen would be writhing in pain....)
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To: FairOpinion
Because of DEBKAfile's repeated lack of credibility, it is best to put the word "DEBKA" into the headline, so people know it's just a rumor and not an actual fact.

That having been said, other news reports were about this attack on Ali, so the rumor just might be true. That doesn't change the fact that DEBKA probably just saw news about an attack on Chemical Ali and decided to dress it up as an inside scoop about his demise.

5 posted on 03/31/2003 11:50:20 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: FairOpinion
Ummmm... Ananova and Debka as sources. Not holding my breath on this report, but hopeing it's true.

Æ
6 posted on 03/31/2003 11:54:04 PM PST by AgentEcho (If you're in a fair fight you've done something wrong.)
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To: nevergore
He's died in the bunker the first night, Basra the first week, a Bagdad raid and in the field a few days ago.....

.....That's ok. This guy deserves to die a thousand deaths.

7 posted on 03/31/2003 11:56:14 PM PST by powderhorn
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To: All
If we are going after "convoys", I'd just as soon see us do damage on ALL roads leading from Jordan and Syria into Iraq...... *nods*
8 posted on 03/31/2003 11:59:08 PM PST by bart99
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To: Sabertooth
Picky, picky, LOL

Time for a new keyboard, it sticks occasionally, and I usually notice typos, the instant I am hitting the "send" button and can't retrieve it.
9 posted on 03/31/2003 11:59:48 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: xm177e2
Any report from DEBKA, Reuters, AFP, any Russian Mafia/KGB news agency and most out of India need to be placed in a new section, Breaking Wind with the following warning.

More than likely this is not true nor will it ever be documented. This thread has been posted to confuse and depress those who like to be confused and depressed. Or it has been posted for those who believe in the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny news stories.
10 posted on 03/31/2003 11:59:56 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind!")
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To: FairOpinion
This is where I wish I had a picture of Nelson Muntz saying, "HA, haaa...!"
11 posted on 04/01/2003 12:00:57 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AgentEcho
Actually a lot of other news sources were reporting that the Marines are looking for and are targeting Ali.

But Debka is the first or only I have seen that reported that they got him. Interesting that Debka was citing "US intelligence sources" for the news.

In the fog of war it may or may not be true, but I hope it is, Chemical Ali apparently is playing a major role in organizing the current terrorist attacks against our troops, not to mention his past crimes.
12 posted on 04/01/2003 12:02:03 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Grampa Dave
To depress?

Finding out that Chemical Ali is dead depresses you?

I did put a question mark in the title, to indicate that there is some question about the reliability of the information, but, if confirmed, it's big news.
13 posted on 04/01/2003 12:05:14 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Finding out that Chemical Ali is dead depresses you?

No. The depression comes when you find out Debka is just a couple pimply Haifa college guys with an old PC & a server account..

14 posted on 04/01/2003 12:09:57 AM PST by AntiGuv ()
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To: FairOpinion; John Robinson
Time for a new keyboard, it sticks occasionally, and I usually notice typos, the instant I am hitting the "send" button and can't retrieve it.

I have the same problem. The headlines don't show up in preview.

Still, it's fun to take the cheap shot.




15 posted on 04/01/2003 12:14:01 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: FairOpinion
No, what gets my goat are the BS threads posted on the extremes of both sides. Debka is the extreme on one side and Reuters/AFP is the extreme on the other side without a specific warning saying beware of the source!

The documented death of Soddamned, his sons, Chemical Aly or any of the Iraqi killer thugs would be good news.

As of now we have no documentation of the death of any top Iraqi killer/thug. Just like there is no documentation that there is, was or will be a stand down.
16 posted on 04/01/2003 12:19:19 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind!")
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To: AntiGuv
No. The depression comes when you find out Debka is just a couple pimply Haifa college guys with an old PC & a server account.

But they sound so grown up and knowledgeable! ;-)

17 posted on 04/01/2003 12:45:28 AM PST by SubMareener
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To: SubMareener
DEBKA = DUPKA

18 posted on 04/01/2003 1:13:55 AM PST by ppaul
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To: FairOpinion; Admin Moderator
FR should ban posts from Debka. What a waste of time they are, time after time.

Nothing from DEBKA should ever be in Breaking News. I hate clicking an article and waiting for it to load and then finding out it's DEBKA fluff which is nothing but a tabloid mill posing as a news site.
19 posted on 04/01/2003 4:03:45 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: nevergore
This guy is like a cockroach.... or maybe he too has doubles.
20 posted on 04/01/2003 4:21:33 AM PST by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: Grampa Dave
lol! 'Breaking Wind Section..'
21 posted on 04/01/2003 4:22:42 AM PST by ewing
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To: ppaul
Dupa? Dobry.
22 posted on 04/01/2003 4:28:08 AM PST by 8mmMauser (I really mean uff da)
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To: FairOpinion
Never believe Debka until the Highschool kids at Newsmax copy the story verbatim and add tidbits from their secret sources (Cable News).

Newsmax press room: A room at the Holiday Inn with access to cable news.
23 posted on 04/01/2003 4:38:20 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Grampa Dave; FairOpinion
This also from DEBKA:

Saddam Eyes Endgame, Gathers in His Elite Forces

DEBKAfile Special Analysis for Day 12 of Iraq War – March 31

March 31, 2003, 3:47 PM (GMT+02:00)

The Iraq war is resolving itself into a battle of wits whose lines are deliberately blurred by the bravado, ambiguous maneuvers and half-truths propagated by both sides. The protagonists are US General Tommy Franks and Saddam Hussein. The score on Day 12 of the war is even.

Elite forces??? The "score" is EVEN???
After reading this from Debka, I am inclined to never read another word from them, EVER.

FRegards
24 posted on 04/01/2003 4:54:01 AM PST by FBD (May God bless our troops, and all coalition forces!)
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To: FairOpinion
I get the impression that DEBKA thinks that if they just keep reporting him dead over and over again that the guy will just drop off. Eventually they will be right because at some point he will at least die of old age.
25 posted on 04/01/2003 5:25:40 AM PST by CougarGA7
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To: FairOpinion
Please don't quote debka as anything resembling a reliable source. They are a steaming cauldrun of jihadist bs.
26 posted on 04/01/2003 5:27:58 AM PST by ChadGore (288,007,154 Americans did not protest the war today)
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To: ChadGore
They should have been SMART ....like Mayor Daley, and bulldozed up the roads and airports around them,....that would have protected them,,,,,,hehehehehe hahahahaa,..HOHHOHO /sarcasm off
27 posted on 04/01/2003 5:30:41 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: FairOpinion
If tre, this will be the third time I've read that he has been killed.
28 posted on 04/01/2003 5:30:50 AM PST by js1138
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To: powderhorn
<.....That's ok. This guy deserves to die a thousand deaths.

Does he get a fresh batch of virgins each time or do they just re-cycle them?

29 posted on 04/01/2003 5:36:25 AM PST by varon
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To: FairOpinion
Well, DEBKA was partly right about the helicopter offensive the other day, so I'm hopeful they're partly right again today, too. But I don't hope Ali is partly dead - I will hold out for the news that he is taking the big dirt nap/sand nap.
30 posted on 04/01/2003 5:49:50 AM PST by Puddleglum
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To: Lancey Howard


31 posted on 04/01/2003 6:43:49 AM PST by LayoutGuru2 (In the name of diversity, we are all becoming exactly the same.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Any report from DEBKA, Reuters, AFP, any Russian Mafia/KGB news agency and most out of India need to be placed in a new section, Breaking Wind with the following warning.

GAS!!! GAS!!! GAS!!!

32 posted on 04/01/2003 6:49:09 AM PST by Yankee
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To: Yankee
Some gases are good like the natural gas which is heating our home and cooking our breakfast. Later we will use gas to drive our suvs and pickups.

Maybe your warning should be "Stinking Rotten Debka Gas!"
33 posted on 04/01/2003 7:24:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind!")
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To: FBD
Thanks!

Well the only reason I will read them is to debunk them when they are posted under the pretense of being serious.

If we had a section called Breaking Wind where this crapola was posted or moved to by the moderators. Then we could read their bs and have a good laugh.

The little schoolboys who wrote this "The Iraq war is resolving itself into a battle of wits whose lines are deliberately blurred by the bravado, ambiguous maneuvers and half-truths propagated by both sides. The protagonists are US General Tommy Franks and Saddam Hussein. The score on Day 12 of the war is even." Need to be banned from their computer and have their stinking Pampers changed by their Mom.
34 posted on 04/01/2003 8:03:54 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind!")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Looks like "Chemical Ali" needs a new nickname:

How about "Ali Hassan bin Seen Lately?"
35 posted on 04/01/2003 10:25:23 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Grampa Dave
"Then we could read their bs and have a good laugh." For another good laugh, check out the North Korean Central News Agency (a link is on Drudge)...
36 posted on 04/01/2003 11:00:40 AM PST by jerseygirl
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To: FairOpinion
>>>>targeted attack Monday on Iraqi military convoy near Ash Shatra<<<<<

Looks like he got his "Ash Shot"

37 posted on 04/01/2003 11:04:07 AM PST by irish guard
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To: jerseygirl
I will take your word. The commy phoney news agencies have been great for laughs since the Cold War started.
38 posted on 04/01/2003 11:14:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind!")
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To: FairOpinion

"Excellent."

39 posted on 05/04/2003 10:03:41 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FairOpinion
http://members.toast.net/eyeofthestorm/awjeez.jpg

ajntsa
40 posted on 06/21/2003 11:49:59 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
http://prod.bsis.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/26/26091/folders/11507/447634AhJeeze!.jpg

ajntsa
41 posted on 06/26/2003 8:34:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FairOpinion
Please don't post information from debka as a credible source.
They are not.
42 posted on 06/26/2003 8:37:46 PM PDT by ChadGore (Piss off a liberal: Hire Someone.)
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