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***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 14 - LIVE THREAD***

Posted on 04/01/2003 9:10:41 PM PST by Capitalism2003



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iowa; iraq; iraqifreedom; live; war; warlist
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To: Fledermaus
Okay, since it's night owl time I'm going to post random thoughts and pics at will.

Mostly I'll be just talking to myself.

351 posted on 04/02/2003 1:10:49 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: Fledermaus
Another article...

US troops tackle Saddam's elite
Apr 2 17:18
AFP wires


US ground troops tackled Iraq's elite Republican Guard near the town of Karbala in their first full-on battle, a US defence official said, amid rising concerns over civilian casualties.

The battle near Karbala, 80 kilometres south of Baghdad, marked the first time "ground forces have been fully engaged against Republican Guards," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.



http://afr.com/iraq/2003/04/02/FFXWBM270ED.html
352 posted on 04/02/2003 1:10:53 AM PST by kcvl
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To: hmmmmm
Hi fellow niteowl, If they don't know who her captors are, just torture any of them, they are all brutal & probably deserve it for something else they've done!
353 posted on 04/02/2003 1:10:54 AM PST by blondee123 (WAR: Saddams choice, not ours!)
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To: blondee123
Achmed is singing!
354 posted on 04/02/2003 1:11:45 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: oceanperch
Cher came out to announce today that she has lost all respect for M.Jackson.

Those one night stands will do that, usually in the morning.

355 posted on 04/02/2003 1:12:18 AM PST by this_ol_patriot
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To: Fledermaus
Achmed should be on American Idol...he's better than most tonight! Josh the Marine was awful.

Rueben is going to win at this pace. He's so consitent and did Barry White!

I still hate Kimberly Caldwell, she's such a phoney!
356 posted on 04/02/2003 1:14:13 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: **Iowa

Pilot of lost S-3B Viking from Iowa

MASON CITY — A Navy pilot from Mason City was injured Monday night when the brakes apparently failed on his S-3B Viking airplane, causing it to veer off the flight deck of the Persian Gulf-based USS Constellation and plunge into 200 feet of water.

Lt. Ben Folkers, 28, a 1993 graduate of Mason City High School, sustained burns to his arm when he ejected from the plane. He and a crew member, Lt. Matt Wilder of St. Louis, Mo., were rescued by divers from a Navy search and rescue team.

Folkers is the son of Chip and Tucki Folkers of Mason City.

Chip Folkers said he received the call that all military parents dread, informing him his son had been injured, at about 9:30 p.m. Monday.

“The call came from the Naval Department in San Diego,” said Folkers, who is a former Navy pilot. “They said they wanted us to know that there had been an incident, that they really didn’t know too much about it, and that our son had been injured.

“Later, I got a call from his commanding officer telling us that he was out of the infirmary and that he had been treated for burns on his arm but there were no spinal injuries or anything like that.

“Then, about midnight, Ben called to let us know that he was all right. If you know Ben, you know there’s always a story to tell. By the time he called, I had seen reports about it on CNN and Fox and I told him that. And Ben said, ‘How did I look?’ That’s Ben. He wasn’t making light of the situation. He was trying to say something to make us feel better.”

The Navy said Tuesday Folkers’ aircraft made a successful landing on the carrier with the tailhook on the plane catching one of the arresting cables strung across the landing runway. Usually, according to the Navy, the plane would then taxi to the right and park in preparation for it being moved below deck on an elevator. Instead, the plane rolled to the left and dropped off the side of the ship. Part of it caught briefly in safety netting along the edge of the deck. That momentary delay gave the crew time to eject before the plane hit the water.

Folkers said his son has been flying missions over Iraq since Nov. 1. He said in typical situations, when the pilot and crew eject from a plane, the crew member goes first. Folkers’ crew member jumped. When Folkers ejected, his arm hit the ejection seat which apparently had caught fire, causing his injury.

“I’ve been trying to translate some of the things I’ve been hearing and trying to connect the dots,” said Chip Folkers. “These are old airplanes and they are flying constantly. This was definitely mechanical failure,” a fact the Navy confirmed Tuesday.

“He’ll be grounded for a while,” said Folkers. “When you’re in a plane on a flight deck about 100 feet high, and your brakes fail and you’re about to go into 200 feet of water, it causes some anxiety. It’s bound to shake you up a bit. So he won’t fly for a while. But he’s doing OK.

Folkers, who is city attorney for Mason City, had one more difficult task Monday night. His wife, an interim vice president at North Iowa Area Community College, was out of town. Folkers had to call her to inform her about their son. “She’s doing real well with it,” he said Tuesday.

Folkers said he and his wife have received periodic e-mails from Ben. In one of them, he mentioned that he hoped to be back for his Mason City High School 10-year class reunion this summer.

357 posted on 04/02/2003 1:14:36 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (* * Common Sense is an Oxymoron * *)
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To: oceanperch
Greg Kelly embedded with 3RD Infantry is on the move again.

Now he says they are in full Chem suits.

Logistics not an issue.

358 posted on 04/02/2003 1:14:56 AM PST by oceanperch (Support Our Troops)
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To: kcvl
You're right :), very good info. It backs up, very well, a lot of what's been reported today. Thanks for the link!
359 posted on 04/02/2003 1:15:22 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: Fledermaus
I shut down my webcam for a while, it slows down my computer so bad & nothing was happening, not like last nite.
Last nite my hubby was sleeping & he heard my speakers & thought it was storming outside! LOL
360 posted on 04/02/2003 1:15:29 AM PST by blondee123 (WAR: Saddams choice, not ours!)
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To: blondee123
Oh, it was storming allright! ggl
361 posted on 04/02/2003 1:16:35 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: blondee123
Exactly what I'm thinking especially since they think it's an honor to die for their "cause", that they get their 72 virgins!
362 posted on 04/02/2003 1:17:14 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: AFPhys
Don't forget pockets of higher temperatures scattered around Bagland too.
363 posted on 04/02/2003 1:17:55 AM PST by POGIFFMOO (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: hmmmmm
I was in college in the mid 70's...couldn't find that many virgins.
364 posted on 04/02/2003 1:18:02 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: Fledermaus
roflol
365 posted on 04/02/2003 1:19:24 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Keith in Iowa
What a nice article, thanks.
366 posted on 04/02/2003 1:19:25 AM PST by blondee123 (WAR: Saddams choice, not ours!)
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To: Fledermaus
Oh, it was storming allright! ggl

Let me know if it starts storming over Baghdad again, so I can load up webcam again!

367 posted on 04/02/2003 1:21:01 AM PST by blondee123 (WAR: Saddams choice, not ours!)
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To: POGIFFMOO
I've had a pretty good chuckle looking at some of the posted articles which are appearing in the newspapers today. Several of those are along the theme of "pause for 2 weeks for the 4th ID - not enough supplies - too few troops - resistance very tough" LOL... ROTFL !!!

Maroons
368 posted on 04/02/2003 1:22:31 AM PST by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: blondee123
It's pretty quiet unless there is a traffic accident.

This camera shot is northeast of our favorite intersection, you can tell by the round drive and the phallic building on the left.

But as we know, that camera was destroyed.
369 posted on 04/02/2003 1:22:52 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: Fledermaus
Good thing you're not in college now since you, from what you said, did find some then.

*L*
370 posted on 04/02/2003 1:23:23 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: AFPhys
Isn't it amazing? What boobs. The 4th ID is already moving!

Do these morons even bother to double check their sources? Oh wait....NO!
371 posted on 04/02/2003 1:23:49 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: hmmmmm
It's not PC anymore to admit that, yes, I did find some! he he

372 posted on 04/02/2003 1:25:16 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: Fledermaus
I looked at the maps and tried to compare it to this intersection. This one is facing almost due east isn't it?

Please don't refer me to the weather maps, they confuse me horribly :).
373 posted on 04/02/2003 1:27:11 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm
Pretty close to due east...it's now on zoom though.

I'll still throw in some "northeast", but if you remember the other view, the road just north split and you could tell it was part of the loop on the "round".

But I think you are correct, more east.
374 posted on 04/02/2003 1:28:53 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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Does anyone have a link to streaming news online?
375 posted on 04/02/2003 1:28:59 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristcorecard/index.html)
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To: Fledermaus
I'd like to believe that nobody here adheres to PC garbage. Now, about your reply, TMI! *LOLOL*
376 posted on 04/02/2003 1:29:42 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: All
South Korea's parliament approves dispatch of non-combat troops to Middle East

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/882663/posts

Teen Girls show American Pride with Pro-Bush, Pro-GOP Fan Sites

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/882530/posts

Yemeni volunteers in Iraq vow suicide attacks

Baghdad says that more than 6,000 Arab volunteers have arrived in Iraq in recent weeks. It said half of them were would-be suicide bombers who would step up attacks on U.S. and British forces.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/882660/posts
377 posted on 04/02/2003 1:31:34 AM PST by blondee123 (WAR: Saddams choice, not ours!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Streaming news: Check out the first page of this thread, they are all listed there.
378 posted on 04/02/2003 1:32:56 AM PST by blondee123 (WAR: Saddams choice, not ours!)
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To: Fledermaus
I was getting a bit of the north in there too. I don't agree about the other camera however, I think that road led to a bridge over the Tigris. I've based that on viewing the map that someone posted on 1 of these daily threads. I could be way off on it but I tried to judge it by Mosque location with the understanding the the Ministry of Info was right on the river.
379 posted on 04/02/2003 1:33:18 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm
Hi everyone.

Did anyone catch that little tid-bit by Greg Jerret talking about the ABC White House reporter who saw George Tennet the day after the hit on the command bunker last week with a big smile on his face and lighting up a cigar?

380 posted on 04/02/2003 1:33:37 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (my cat's breath smells of Cheeto's)
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To: blondee123
Baghdad says that more than 6,000 Arab volunteers have arrived in Iraq in recent weeks

What a total lie.

381 posted on 04/02/2003 1:34:57 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: Nik Naym
Biggest problem with the frog versions is that as soon as you put them on, you can't understand what anybody says, and everything has subtitles under it.

and all the women look like they have hairy armpits.

382 posted on 04/02/2003 1:35:21 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristcorecard/index.html)
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To: Tree of Liberty
I missed it and my TV is right next to me! What was the reporters take on it?
383 posted on 04/02/2003 1:35:37 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm
I think that road led to a bridge over the Tigris.

Blah, blah, blah...you think you are so smart! How dare you point out something I didn't think about and make so much sense! You, you, you...Republican!!! he he

384 posted on 04/02/2003 1:37:15 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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Now Turkey wants to help and we're going to let them?
385 posted on 04/02/2003 1:37:56 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm
Jerret just said something along the lines of "those little tid-bits sometimes say a lot". Tenet had just come out of briefing the President about that strike when the ABC reporter saw him.

Fox - Some sort of arrangements have been made with Turkey. Fuel supplies, military evacuations, and humanitarian aide. Report comes from Turkish TV.

386 posted on 04/02/2003 1:37:57 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (my cat's breath smells of Cheeto's)
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To: hmmmmm
mmmmmmm, turkey
387 posted on 04/02/2003 1:38:16 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: hmmmmm
Doesn't sound like much help as far as offensive actions are concerned. That ship sailed several days ago, anyway.
388 posted on 04/02/2003 1:38:50 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (my cat's breath smells of Cheeto's)
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To: Fledermaus
mmmmmmmmm, Tryptophan
389 posted on 04/02/2003 1:39:34 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (my cat's breath smells of Cheeto's)
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To: Tree of Liberty
show off
390 posted on 04/02/2003 1:39:53 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: Fledermaus
You're right, *slinking to a corner in Republican like shame*, how dare I. *LOL*

Do you know the map I'm talking about? I'd really like some feedback on my thoughts.
391 posted on 04/02/2003 1:40:21 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm
Nope, no map I know of, sorry.
392 posted on 04/02/2003 1:40:50 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: Tree of Liberty
I wonder if other networks will try to spin this in some way.
393 posted on 04/02/2003 1:41:28 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: Fledermaus
LOL
394 posted on 04/02/2003 1:41:39 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (my cat's breath smells of Cheeto's)
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To: Fledermaus
Thanksgiving is almost 8 months away!
395 posted on 04/02/2003 1:42:07 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm
I don't care, I do cornish hens...I hate cooking a huge turkey...it's okay from the deli
396 posted on 04/02/2003 1:42:47 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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To: Fledermaus
TURKEY SONG!!!
397 posted on 04/02/2003 1:43:21 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (my cat's breath smells of Cheeto's)
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To: Fledermaus
David Bloom's back on!
398 posted on 04/02/2003 1:43:30 AM PST by Timeout (...an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm--GWB inaugural address)
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To: Tree of Liberty
That's what I thought. I read here on FR, somewhere, earlier tonight that all we had left in Turkey were some cargo planes. How much non-combattant type help are we going to need to the north. It must be a symbolic thing set up by the State Dept to help them keep some of the aid package.
399 posted on 04/02/2003 1:44:00 AM PST by hmmmmm
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To: Tree of Liberty
ROFL...yep, that's an Adam Sandler written song. I still prefer "Hannakah Song".

Wife hates Sandler.
400 posted on 04/02/2003 1:44:57 AM PST by Fledermaus (Saddemocrats on the Run!)
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