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California gas prices likely to remain high
SJ Mercury News ^ | 4/2/03 | Gary Richards

Posted on 04/02/2003 6:28:09 PM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:52 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

California motorists can expect wild hikes in gas prices for years to come -- and the state says it's not because big oil is gouging us.

Motorists in the state are consuming 3 percent more gas every year, and that added demand is outstripping the 1 percent increase that California refineries can realistically be expected to produce annually, said William Keese, chairman of the California Energy Commission.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; gasprices; remainhigh

1 posted on 04/02/2003 6:28:10 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Also from the Murky News

Posted on Wed, Apr. 02, 2003

SUV fuel economy standards increased

DEE-ANN DURBIN
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Sport utility vehicles, vans and pickup trucks will have to get better gas mileage over the next three years under new government standards.

The new rule was announced Tuesday by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. It requires manufacturers to attain a fleet average for vehicles in the "light truck" category of 22.2 miles per gallon beginning with the 2007 models, an increase of 1.5 mpg over current requirements.

Automakers said the new rule will be difficult to achieve technologically.

"We're committed to it, but it is going to be a challenge," said Eron Shosteck, a spokesman for the Washington-based Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers.

The alliance wants Congress to approve tax incentives for fuel-efficient vehicles to encourage consumers to buy them, since an automaker's fleet average is determined by how much consumers buy. The group says automakers are offering more than 30 models with fuel economy ratings above 30 mpg, but consumers aren't buying them.

Critics said the change reflects no more than what automakers already have been planning to achieve with their SUV fleets. They also say it does nothing to reduce the country's dependence on foreign oil.

"(This change) will save our nation a minuscule six million barrels of oil a year - less than three percent of what we are importing from Iraq," National Environmental Trust President Philip E. Clapp said.

David Nemtzow of the Alliance to Save Energy also expressed disappointment about NHTSA's rule change.

"Here we are. Oil prices are high. We're on the Middle East fighting a war and they squander the best opportunity we've had in a decade to start doing something about meaningful about oil imports," Nemtzow said.

NHTSA Administrator Dr. Jeffrey Runge defended the rule change, noting that it marks the first increase in the fuel economy standard since the mid-1990s and demonstrates that the Bush administration "is committed to improving vehicle fuel economy while protecting passenger safety and American jobs."

For model years beyond 2007, NHTSA said it plans to consider new ways to administer the fuel economy program, including changes to the classification of vehicles and the way fuel economy is measured.

Fuel economy for passenger sedans, which are required to meet a fleet average of 27.5 mpg, is not affected by the new regulation.

Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, have introduced legislation to close that gap between SUV and passenger car fuel economy. The bill calls for SUVs to achieve 27.5 mpg by 2011. That would save 1 million barrels of a day and reduce dependence on foreign imports by 10 percent, they say.

The country uses 8.8 million gallons of gasoline a day, according to the Energy Department.

2 posted on 04/02/2003 6:33:48 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... FReepin' to the Oldies .. The US Constitution and Bill of Rights)
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To: NormsRevenge
Wholesale prices have dropped about 42 cents per gallon since March 15, but retail prices are falling at a much slower pace --

Is that a typo ? Gas in Eureka today was $2:199 a gallon. I paid $2.109 at a private "card lock". Costco is in the prosess of installing tanks and pumps but I doubt it will help much...

3 posted on 04/02/2003 6:35:50 PM PST by tubebender (?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Motorists in the state are consuming 3 percent more gas every year

To the writer of this article, not the poster

No Sh@t Sherlock, what gave you the first clue. Rising population=rising gas use. Maybe you could suggest closing the boarder for a while.

4 posted on 04/02/2003 6:37:44 PM PST by itsahoot
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To: tubebender
$1.329 in Oklahoma, this afternoon... Have a nice day...:-)
5 posted on 04/02/2003 6:42:16 PM PST by jonascord (Fie on Marxist quotes!)
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To: NormsRevenge
The solution is for the politicians in California to pull their heads out of their a$$e$ and permit gasoline manufactured out of state to be sold in California. There would be an instant drop in prices as a broader supply of gasoline replaces the restricted monopoly held by California based refineries.
6 posted on 04/02/2003 6:44:53 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: jonascord
Wow! lol I'm moving to OK! Near where I am, it just dropped to $1.599 from $1.699 in a week. I don't get this gas pricing. Gas is gas, right? Got an extra room? :)
7 posted on 04/02/2003 6:45:29 PM PST by IamHD
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To: jonascord
I paid a $1.31 here in Norman today! I love Oklahoma!
8 posted on 04/02/2003 6:46:37 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: NormsRevenge
So, let me see if I have this right.

This entire article bemoans high gas prices, but "the state is considering attempts to reduce growing consumption by hiking gas taxes and fees!

Gray Davis up to his same ole tricks, I see.

9 posted on 04/02/2003 6:47:15 PM PST by Timeout (...an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm--GWB inaugural address)
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To: NormsRevenge
He said about 80 percent of the gas being sold in the state was now free of MTBE.

However, he forgot to add that the MBTE will remain in groundwater basins for decades. Yet another unintended result of misguided do-gooders.

10 posted on 04/02/2003 6:51:49 PM PST by glorgau
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To: NormsRevenge
High gas prices thanks to the commie corrupt Guv. Davis.
11 posted on 04/02/2003 6:55:46 PM PST by johnfl61
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To: NormsRevenge
There is so much BS in this article, it would take a week to parse it all out. Needless to say, it is a hit-piece on SUV's and western living.

Crap!

12 posted on 04/02/2003 6:57:35 PM PST by lawdude
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To: NormsRevenge
Fruits and nuts.
13 posted on 04/02/2003 6:57:57 PM PST by noutopia
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To: jonascord
$1.329 in Oklahoma, this afternoon... Have a nice day...:-)

You set your self up for this one...Gas would be $.99 in Ca if all those "Mid-Westerners" and their offspring from the 30s returned home. :-)

14 posted on 04/02/2003 7:10:38 PM PST by tubebender (?)
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To: IamHD
It gets worse. Are you aware that gasoline is "fungible"? That means that the oil companies, using interstate pipe lines, pump "premium" right after "economy", all the way from Texas to New York without a "pig" to separate the two grades. Is the .12+ cent/gal. price hike worth it? Heating oil is #2 diesel, without the road taxes and the coloring dye.
15 posted on 04/02/2003 7:12:51 PM PST by jonascord (Fie on Marxist quotes!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Everything is high in People\s Republic Land.
16 posted on 04/02/2003 7:13:37 PM PST by freekitty
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To: jonascord
What gets me is, I have to have at least 10 refineries within 3 miles of my home. Why is my gas to high? I'm coming to live with you. lol
17 posted on 04/02/2003 7:22:06 PM PST by IamHD
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To: tubebender
Born in Sun Valley, raised in Grenada Hills, moved out in '69. Been there, done that. Ain't no way I'm going back. California can slide into the Pacific from Baja to Marin County and I'll wave bye-bye...
18 posted on 04/02/2003 7:22:22 PM PST by jonascord (Fie on Marxist quotes!)
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To: IamHD
I'm having some good "california" wine. :)

to=so

19 posted on 04/02/2003 7:23:44 PM PST by IamHD
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To: johnfl61
Good reason to recall Gray Davis.
20 posted on 04/03/2003 10:27:25 AM PST by NEWwoman
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To: NormsRevenge
Well, the administration just pull the plug on the lawsuit to allow drilling off the California coast. Davis was elated. This is the price the Californians must pay. They have no credibility in whining about the price of gas.
21 posted on 04/03/2003 10:29:14 AM PST by Wphile (The debate is over. Let's roll!)
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To: Wphile
Another good reason to recall Gray Davis.
22 posted on 04/03/2003 2:28:37 PM PST by NEWwoman
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