MSNBC-Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq

MSNBC ^ | 4/04/03

[kattracks]

MSNBC.com finds signs of ricin, botulinum at Islamic militants’ camp

SARGAT, Iraq, April 4 — MSNBC.com tests reveal evidence of the deadly toxins ricin and botulinum at a laboratory in a remote mountain region of northern Iraq allegedly used as a terrorist training camp by Islamic militants with ties to the al-Qaida terrorist network. The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency is conducting its own tests at the same area, but has not yet released the results, according to officials in northern Iraq.

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[OrioleFan]

ISO 9001 - It must be valid... </sarcasm>
ISO is the European way of slowing down American businesses.

[MeekOneGOP]

All their toxins are belong to us ! . . .

[conservababeJen]

Whoda thunk it?

[Kadric]

I wonder if this can be positively link to the Ricin found in England and France?

[ShootMeIfHillaryRuns]

It would not surprise me. The French are fools to think that they were "safe" from Terrorism. That is what happens though when you climb in bed with a Terrorist.. Look at what Clinton allowed and look at the damage it caused America. France is ignorant and now it is also "friendless."

[tallhappy]

MSNBC.com tests reveal evidence of the deadly toxins ricin and botulinum at a laboratory in a remote mountain region of northern Iraq allegedly used as a terrorist training camp by Islamic militants with ties to the al-Qaida terrorist network. The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency is conducting its own tests at the same area, but has not yet released the results, according to officials in northern Iraq.

How and why would MSNBC.com have samples of this to test?

[RetiredArmy]

Nope. Ain't true. Saddam. Little Tommy. The frenchiraquies, the germans, russians, democommies, socialist, anti-war peacenicks all say he does not have them. Can that many people be wrong??? (puke)

[RetiredArmy]

@#20: The "chemicals" were for Saddam's personal use. Not for resale!!!!

[buffyt]

I have read that two thimbles full of ricin would be enough poison to kill all the people in a city the size of Houston and there is no antidote. Is that correct?

[Scarlet_Pimpernil]

.......sadly, there is no liberal out there who is willing to be confused by "the facts." I have been trying to have some critical discussions with liberal friends, and I can tell you for sure, I don't know what there excuse/rationalization will be, but they will have one. Peter Jennings wil broadcast it as if it were a fact, and nothing will change.

The excuses they are trial-ballooning have to do with Saddam not having control of the area they were found. Some other candidates are that we planted them, its a cosnpiracy, or they will just shift to some minor technical detail and say how this poison wouldn't have killed very efficiently anyway......perhaps it was all made int he last 6 months that we threatened war aout of fear we created, its all our fault....

[mvpel]

It's been really amazing to watch how some people are living in complete denial over on grex.cyberspace.org, a BBS I'm involved in.

I wonder what it will take, I have a sense that even finding cyanide and mustard gas in the river won't convince them.

[Minty]

Yes, I feel so much safer now. Thanks MSNBC I should watch you now day and night out of gratitude... Bwa ha ha ha ha

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Its good to know that MSNBC is testing all the suspected toxic material for us. ?!?!?

Don't the know all toxic samples are to be sent to Tommy Daschle's office for analysis?

[PhiKapMom]

Thanks for posting your comments. I thought it was a good thing as well since it is independent of the Government.

[infowarrior]

I have read that two thimbles full of ricin would be enough poison to kill all the people in a city the size of Houston, and there is no antidote. Is that correct?

As far as part one of the question, I can't say that that small a quantity could kill that many people, but it is correct to say that ricin is extremely toxic. It is the most lethal organic toxin known to man.

As to the second point of your question, yes, that is a fact, there is no known antidote to ricin, and it is so fast-acting, and difficult to detect, that getting an antidote in time would be problematical at best...

theinfowarrior

[april15Bendovr]

I haven't heard a thing since 2003 disproving this MSNBC report.

I wonder if anyone else has?

U.S. intelligence says the Sargat camp, shown here in a satellite photo taken before its destruction, was a "terrorist poison and explosives factory."

[april15Bendovr]

I don’t know if the original URL still works. I found the article here this evening.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3070394/

[Vinnie]

Aww come on, they were growing castor plants and had a couple of spoiled cans of beans.
Big deal!
Remember the portable growth chambers Saddam bought from Germany?
All they wanted them for was making fresh beer on site for the Republican Guard.
/s

[jveritas]

Thanks for the ping Chris. I never seen this one before but it is yet another proof of Al Qaeda presence in Iraq during Saddam regime and that the terrorists were trained on WMD.

[okie01]

Proving once again that there is no no news that the MSM can't ignore -- even their own reporting -- if it happens to support the Bush administration.

What a truly despicable group of people!