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Posted on 04/04/2003 6:15:44 AM PST by kattracksEdited on 04/04/2003 6:21:36 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Don't the know all toxic samples are to be sent to Tommy Daschle's office for analysis?
As far as part one of the question, I can't say that that small a quantity could kill that many people, but it is correct to say that ricin is extremely toxic. It is the most lethal organic toxin known to man.
As to the second point of your question, yes, that is a fact, there is no known antidote to ricin, and it is so fast-acting, and difficult to detect, that getting an antidote in time would be problematical at best...
I wonder if anyone else has?
U.S. intelligence says the Sargat camp, shown here in a satellite photo taken before its destruction, was a "terrorist poison and explosives factory."
I don’t know if the original URL still works. I found the article here this evening.
Aww come on, they were growing castor plants and had a couple of spoiled cans of beans.
Remember the portable growth chambers Saddam bought from Germany?
All they wanted them for was making fresh beer on site for the Republican Guard.
What a truly despicable group of people!
Interview with David Kay PBS Chasing Saddam’s Weapons
This news report must have fallen into a black hole somewhere?
MSNBC is nearly dead.
Yes they are. We should give this a daily bump just for an old memory.
Ricin and Botulinum are mentioned in the text of the David Kay report to Congress
Text of Kay’s report
Doesn't Crazy Chris have a motto for exposing the truth?
We need to get a response from the abandonment from Iraq and ignore evidence Ron Paul crowd.
For today at least this link seems to work...thanks to Flopping Aces :
The Link to the Flopping aces item:
Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq
Evidence of ricin, botulinum at Islamic militants camp
By EXCLUSIVE By Preston Mendenhall
Now, lets face it Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews arent gonna change their minds and suddenly face the reality that Saddams regime was willing to work with AQ groups, did work with AQ groups and leaders, and the threat of the so-called Nexus of Evil connection even existed.
Captured members of Al Queda groups from this same camp claim that they were assisted, trained, supplied, and funded by Saddams IIS as well as taking orders from Saddams IIS.
Captured documents confirm their claims.
Captured regime members confirm their claims.
Now even highly anti-war/pro-Democrat MSNBC confirms the claim itself.
Al Queda leaders confirm the claims (Zawahiri and Zarqawi specifically).
Why believe Bush Lied? Because its easier to believe that the solution to todays problems can be solved by changing a circle to a dot on a ballot than it is to face the real and scary threat as well as own up to the failures of the past.
Al Qaeda document | March 16 2008 | jveritas
Posted on Sun 16 Mar 2008 02:49:59 PM PDT by jveritas
On February 17 2008, Al-Ekhlaas which is the largest terrorist forum on the internet published an Al Qaeda document that talks about the life of Abou Musaab Al Zarqawi and indicates that Zarqawi came to Iraq before the war to prepare the terrorist insurgency against the US troops. According to the document Zarqawi arrived to the Sunni areas in central Iraq. This document was written by one of Al Qaeda top leaders called Saif Al Adel.
There were many accounts about Zarqawi presence in Iraq before the war in particular in Northern Iraq with Ansar Al Islam an active Al Qaeda affiliated terrorist group that was present in the Kurdish areas of Iraq long before the war started. The document also proves that Ansar Al Islam helped Al Qaeda members establish themselves in Iraq before the war started.
The author of the document wrote that there were no relations between Saddam regime and Al Qaeda but this does not negate at all the most important fact that Al Qaeda was in Iraq before the war for the sole purpose of preparing for its most important front to fight the U.S and it is now in Iraq where Al Qaeda is suffering its most crushing defeat since its existence.
It is very important to note that despite the author of the document denial of a relationship between Saddam regime and Al Qaeda it does not mean that Saddam regime was not aware of Al Qaeda presence in Iraq. In fact the documents clearly points out that Zarqawi went to the Sunni areas in Central Iraq before the war and these areas were totally controlled and loyal to Saddam regime and it very hard to imagine that Zarqawi stayed and prepared his terrorist sleepers cells in these Sunni areas without the approval of Saddam regime.
El-Ekhlaas terrorist forum is a password protected so you cannot access the document unless you are registered there as a member.
Below is a partial translation of Al Qaeda document written by Saif Al Adel.
" We started the work and the contact with the leadership, and we began to support and help the leadership again, and this was our goal after we left Afghanistan. We began establishing the fighter groups. On one hand to return to Afghanistan and conduct planned operations there, and on the other hand we began to study the situation of the groups and bothers to find new places for them. After long discussions, brother Abou Mussab with his Palestinian and Jordanian companions decided to go to Iraq because of their dialects they can quickly mix and assimilate in the Iraqi society. Our analysis was that the Americans were going to make the mistake sooner or later to invade Iraq, that this invasion will lead to the fall of the regime, and that we should play an important role in the confrontation and resistance, and that this is our historical chance to establish the Islamic State who will have the biggest role in removing injustice and establish justice in this world allah willing. I was in agreement with brother Abou Mussab regarding this analysis. There were no relation between Al Qaeda and Saddam regime that is worth mentioning, as opposite to what the Americans are saying so they can create excuse and legal justifications according to their laws that they imposed on the world that is enslaved by the West, the Israelis and the Anglo-Saxons.
The plan was to have our brothers enter Iraq from the North, where the road is not controlled y the regime, and then go down South to the Sunni areas where we have some of our brothers. Also the brothers in Ansar Al Islam showed their willingness to give us any help to achieve this goal.
The Americans noticed that the Iranians were having a blind eye against our activities in Iran so they began a media attack against Iran accusing them of helping Al Qaeda and international terrorism. The steps taken by the Iranians had confused us and had caused 75% of our plans to fail. Many of our comrades were arrested. 80% of Abou Musaab Al Zarqawi group members were arrested. There should be a quick plan to arrange the escape of Zarqawi and the remaining of his group, the destination was Iraq and the route was the Northern borders between Iraq and Iran. The goal was to reach the Sunni areas in central Iraq and the beginning of the preparation to confront the US invasion and defeat it allah willing. The choice was not arbitrary but a studied one.
When he said goodbye to me leaving for Iraq, Abou Musaab has added a new dimension to his personality. This new dimension focused on punishing the Americans for the crimes that they committed in their bombing of Afghanistan and that he witnessed in his own eyes, the hate and hostility that Abou Mussab had for the Americans guaranteed to form new traits to Abou Musaab personality."
End of partial translation.
Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq
MSNBC.com | 04-04-03 | By Preston Mendenhall
Posted on 04/06/2003 9:53:02 AM PDT by kimmie7
NBC ping - that’s Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological.
This is clearly untrue. MSNBC’s own Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews have told us over and over again there are no chemical weapons in Iraq. The whole Iraq war was based on a lie, don’t you remember?
Therefore, to prove the truthfulness of their position, I recommend that both Keith and Chris should travel to Iraq to be immediately exposed to these so-called chemicals.
Their continued good health will prove once and for all that Bush Lied, People Died...
Bioterrorism is their next weapon.
Next year I’m taking a class on this subject....how timely.
More here (per last ping) including translation of al Qaeda document.
Thank you, Ernest.