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U.S. Will Pay Increased UN Dues -- Despite All (Ari Fleischer confirms there is no rollback)
humaneventsonline ^ | 4/7/2003 | John Gizzi

Posted on 04/04/2003 10:47:11 AM PST by TLBSHOW

U.S. Will Pay Increased UN Dues -- Despite All By John Gizzi

Despite the refusal of the United Nations Security Council to enforce its own resolutions calling for disarmament of Iraq, the administration is standing by the budget request it made in January to pay for a $90 million increase in the annual U.S. dues to the United Nations.

The budget proposal submitted to Congress by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) requests an appropriation of $322 million for UN dues in Fiscal Year ’04. That’s up from the $232 million in ’03, according to the OMB. (The U.S. is assessed dues amounting to 22% of the overall UN budget each year.)

Asked on April 2, whether the administration had any plan to rollback the increase in UN dues, White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer, said, “Nothing that anyone’s brought to my attention.”

Some conservative lawmakers indicated they are also ready to pay the increased UN dues. A spokesman for Rep. Joseph Knollenberg (R.-Mich.), a member of the Foreign Operations Subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee (which has oversight over UN funding), said, “Mr. Knollenberg was certainly disappointed in the UN recently, but he is not willing to turn his back on it.” The spokesman said Knollenberg in all likelihood would support the increase.

Similarly, Rep. George Radanovich (R.-Calif.) told me, “The UN has shown how ineffective it is after passing 17 resolutions that were ignored by Iraq.

They’re [sic] League of Nations-like.” But he also signaled he would probably go along with the administration on this issue. “The President has to deal with the world community and the UN will have to have some kind of role in order to bring the rest of the world around [on a postwar Iraq],” he said.

Two other members voiced reservations about the UN’s role in post-war Iraq. “There are plenty of alternatives to the UN and we shouldn’t automatically assume the UN will be the end-all in Iraq after the war,” said House Majority Whip Roy Blunt (Mo.).

“The UN should need to prove it has a role,” echoed Rep. Jack Kingston (R.-Ga.), a Member of the House Appropriations Committee. “It was totally irrelevant leading up to the war, and contributed to the war in that respect. It ignored 17 of its own resolutions about Saddam Hussein and in twelve years never got serious about weapons inspections. It’s very much like them to come around to the battlefield when the soldiers are dead and then to claim victory. You won’t find leadership from the UN any more than you will find fairness or pro-American statements.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: iraq; libertarians; nwo; undues; unlist; us
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1 posted on 04/04/2003 10:47:11 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
AAAARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! Why do we do crap like this?
2 posted on 04/04/2003 10:49:41 AM PST by doodad
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To: TLBSHOW
THIS SUCKS.


3 posted on 04/04/2003 10:50:18 AM PST by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: PhiKapMom
Hard to believe but true, the UN is on the table even after all the BS we went through. There will be no getting America out of the UN that I see. Its just more of making the UN stronger. I can't believe it. What is the President thinking?
4 posted on 04/04/2003 10:50:24 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Hey this is the NWO crowd.

Wimp II is leading the charge back to 1933.

France Germany and russia will get the largest contracts for rebuilding Iraq.

5 posted on 04/04/2003 10:53:43 AM PST by dts32041 (US EPWs clothed and Fed, Iraqi EPWs bullet to the head.)
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To: TLBSHOW
CRAZY.

I know the elite can't imagine a world without a U.N., but what good is it anymore? We should get out of the U.N., as a signal of its utter irrelevance.

Then, perhaps form a new treaty organization, to which membership is limited to civilized nations.

6 posted on 04/04/2003 10:54:27 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: TLBSHOW
I am against giving the UN one red cent!
7 posted on 04/04/2003 10:55:04 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: TLBSHOW
The inmates are running the asylum.

http://getusout.org/

8 posted on 04/04/2003 10:57:16 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: TLBSHOW
We ought to submit a receipt for the cost of the war as our payment.
9 posted on 04/04/2003 10:57:40 AM PST by Gil4
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To: PhiKapMom
requests an appropriation of $322 million for UN dues in Fiscal Year ’04. That’s up from the $232 million in ’03, according to the OMB.

over one hundred million more for a group that does nothing, its a disgrace of many disgraces we are getting from these UN promoters!
10 posted on 04/04/2003 11:01:19 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Gil4
Remember guys..the intention is to make it OUR UN...to regain it for our purposes rather than leave it isolated out there.
11 posted on 04/04/2003 11:01:22 AM PST by Herodotus
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Call your Senators. Tell them it's time to pull OUT of the Bolshevik UN and tell them to get their friggin building off of US soil or we'll drop it brick by brick into the East River.

Semper Fi


I have made 2 calls this morning.
12 posted on 04/04/2003 11:06:19 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Can't stand rude behavior in a man.... Won't tolerate it.)
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To: TLBSHOW
Nice to see that this $100 million increase is supported by our so-called 'conservative' representatives. /sarcasm
13 posted on 04/04/2003 11:06:51 AM PST by Fraulein
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To: Joe Brower
Don't candy-coat your feelings, tell us what you really think.
14 posted on 04/04/2003 11:07:13 AM PST by ampat
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To: TLBSHOW
As long as the US taxpayers keep paying their taxes to the politicos who love to hand out our tax dollars, we all will continue to suffer these things happening.

Quit working for just two/three weeks and see what happens when there becomes a big gap in revenue as a result.
15 posted on 04/04/2003 11:08:51 AM PST by crz
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To: ampat


16 posted on 04/04/2003 11:09:33 AM PST by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: TLBSHOW; newgeezer
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF***
17 posted on 04/04/2003 11:10:06 AM PST by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: Fraulein
Its getting to be a joke! I can't wait for the spin of why its such a great idea from the President can do no wrong crowd.

When the fact is, we are the worlds biggest suckers.

That money is wasted......BUT GOOD!
18 posted on 04/04/2003 11:11:57 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
$322 million for UN dues ...

Oh. My. God.

19 posted on 04/04/2003 11:15:27 AM PST by Anamensis (Regime change began at home in 2000.)
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To: Anamensis
think of it as the other part of the tax cut that got cut by our wonderful Senate!
20 posted on 04/04/2003 11:17:57 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
The 600,000-dollar kitchen or why the UN is still relevant to the US
21 posted on 04/04/2003 11:20:31 AM PST by Fraulein
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To: All; biblewonk
(The U.S. is assessed dues amounting to 22% of the overall UN budget each year.)

So, is there any chance the US gets 22% of the budgetary authority in return for all that responsibility?

22 posted on 04/04/2003 11:20:33 AM PST by newgeezer (until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury)
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To: TLBSHOW
Disgusting, but not surprising...
23 posted on 04/04/2003 11:22:25 AM PST by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: doodad
Just more proof the we are THE STUPIDEST COUNTRY ON EARTH.
24 posted on 04/04/2003 11:23:56 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: TLBSHOW
I SAY AGAIN...UN FRECH OR GERMANY BACK IN IRAQ MEANS WE LOST AND OUR MEN AND WOMEN DIED FOR NOTHING
25 posted on 04/04/2003 11:24:11 AM PST by rrrod
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To: Republic of Texas
Mr. Fleischer said Friday, that the United Nations and the Iraqi people will have key roles to play once the war is over. But the spokesman cautions it is premature to speak more definitively of the post-conflict situation, adding the task at hand is winning the war.

http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=F9C0BAC8-64A1-4F30-B7831EF6A6FDFD7A
26 posted on 04/04/2003 11:25:46 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
bump
27 posted on 04/04/2003 11:31:40 AM PST by RippleFire
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To: TLBSHOW
It is worse than wasted. We are funding our enemies dedicated to the subjgation of the US. We need to force the complete overhall of the UN or its replacement with a new organization reflecting democratic values and relative influence in the world. The UN, as presently organized is permanently opposed to the US and is best symbolied by such actions as making Libya the head of the human rights commission, the formerly planned appointment of Iraq as the co=chair of the disarmament commission, and the endless moral equivalence statements of Kofi Annan.

Even worse, it is used for the active conspiratorial planning of such countries as France, Russia, China and Germany to stop the US plans and is a nest of spies on US soil.

28 posted on 04/04/2003 11:31:49 AM PST by Truth29
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To: dts32041
Wimp II is leading the charge back to 1933.

No. That's Buchanan. HE'S the one who admires Hitler.

France Germany and russia will get the largest contracts for rebuilding Iraq.

Actually, American companies will. Bank on it.

29 posted on 04/04/2003 11:31:56 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Can't bank on anything with this crew, cfr, DOE increase, death tax still present, no roll back on illegal gun laws, etc.
30 posted on 04/04/2003 11:37:04 AM PST by dts32041 (US EPWs clothed and Fed, Iraqi EPWs bullet to the head.)
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To: newgeezer
So, is there any chance the US gets 22% of the budgetary authority in return for all that responsibility?

No, we're like the parents supporting rebellious kids.

31 posted on 04/04/2003 11:37:46 AM PST by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: dts32041; JohnGalt
You forgot all those millions appropriated to fight AIDS in Africa.
32 posted on 04/04/2003 11:39:45 AM PST by Fraulein
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To: TLBSHOW
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM$$
33 posted on 04/04/2003 11:43:02 AM PST by duk
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To: TLBSHOW
The only way that $90 Mega would be worth it is if we were supplying the U-Haul boxes for their pack up and move.

Those babies are expensive!
34 posted on 04/04/2003 11:43:47 AM PST by aShepard
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To: aShepard
Correct, I think a Move to Khartoum should be paid for by the US, after all they might actually be able to stop the slave trade then.
35 posted on 04/04/2003 11:45:25 AM PST by dts32041 (US EPWs clothed and Fed, Iraqi EPWs bullet to the head.)
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To: aShepard
if we were supplying the U-Haul boxes for their pack up and move

Unfortunately, that is not going to happen. Instead our government is spending $600,000 for a US ambassador to the UN to get a new kitchen in his apartment at New York's Waldorf-Astoria hotel. See post #21. They ain't going nowhere, folks.

36 posted on 04/04/2003 11:47:29 AM PST by Fraulein
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BTTT
37 posted on 04/04/2003 11:58:04 AM PST by Fraulein
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Comment #38 Removed by Moderator

To: *UN_List; *"NWO"; *libertarians
ping
39 posted on 04/04/2003 12:09:27 PM PST by Fraulein
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To: biblewonk
My sentiments exactly!! The UN is of no use and we should have gotten out of there a long time ago. While I support President Bush on the war, I have EXTREME difficulty agreeing with some of his other positions. I am so sick of this!!
40 posted on 04/04/2003 12:16:53 PM PST by ImpotentRage
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To: MasterBlue
No we don't. We do not need the UN and we are very stupid for paying this money to this group of commies and terrorist!
41 posted on 04/04/2003 12:27:43 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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BTTT
42 posted on 04/04/2003 12:33:50 PM PST by Fraulein
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To: TLBSHOW
Well first from one of the PRESIDENT CAN DO NO WRONG CROWD to the do no right crowd: chill and let it play out! It must be killing you BBs to have to go 2 weeks without slamming GW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Course you all were saying we weren't invading til next year if at all???? Where are the appologies, oh yeah; your always right! Maybe he is giving them enough rope and "they" are taking it again! BTW how is the war going for this guy that makes you sooooooooooo sick. Do us a favor and go vote for Buchannan!!!
43 posted on 04/04/2003 12:40:25 PM PST by bray (Pray for GW and Our Troops)
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To: TLBSHOW
I don't believe we should turn our back on the UN either-only world class idiots would trust that den of back stabbing sonovabitches out of their sight.

The UN has become the enemy of everything we believe in. It is electing the representatives of human rights violating slave states to reign over the human rights commission. It's idea of family planning is to support and pay for abortions. It's method for dealing with Saddam Hussein, was to keep making new resolutions to replace the ones he ignored, in the hopes that he would eventually laugh his self to death.

Not every member nation of the UN is evil, but enough are obviousely evil, that the evil, the selfish and the butt kissers, have taken control.

The USA should cut off all funding to the UN and send an eviction notice to Koffe Anus and all members, that the UN building has been condemned and will be torn down to make room for a feedlot-all of which have been shown to accumulate less bull sh*t and stench than the present occupants.
44 posted on 04/04/2003 12:40:44 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( The liberal left is using weapons of mass deception.)
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To: TLBSHOW
We have got to do something. I called both my Senators offices -- Texas -- and voiced my UN concerns and asked what they were going to do about it. I was told by both, as if the damn politicians are all reading from the same script, that "Senator Cornyn/Hutchison shares your concerns but the UN is currently the only forum where international business can be handled."

There wasn't five words difference between them. And THESE ARE BOTH REPUBLICAN SENATORS!!!!!!!!!!

I hate to say it but we might have to FReep our own. Germany and France want to combine forces to serve as counter-weights against us. Then they're both DEMANDING that the UN handle the Iraqi rebuilding. The hubris of these jackasses is amazing. We have to hold back-stabbing allies accountable.

And the UN is just a place where dictators and despots can gain up on the U.S. This is absolute madness!!!!!!!!!!!

45 posted on 04/04/2003 12:49:19 PM PST by geedee
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To: TLBSHOW; Pete-R-Bilt
What is he thinking? Simple NEW WORLD ORDER and the Republican sheep will follow him to the cliffs edge and continue over the edge to continue in the downfall of America.

Seriously, it is things like this that make me doubt why we are in Iraq. Are we being told the truth? I seriously have my doubts.

46 posted on 04/04/2003 12:49:20 PM PST by B4Ranch (Keep America safe! Thank the troops for our freedom. No slack for Iraq!)
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To: MasterBlue
You have some very good points . . . many that I've never thought of. But if we're going to shoulder most of the military responsibilities, why should we also pay a disproportionate amount of the expenses?

I semi-agree that there needs to be "some" forum for conducting international business BUT the UN is in dire need or some reorganization. With a second-rate country like France sitting on the Security Council, and us knowing they only want to be counter-weights to our power, how can anything POSITIVE ever be done with UN auspices? And if we're going to do what we need to do ANYWAY, why pour money down the UN drain? India and Japan deserve Security Council seats far, far more than France does.

One more thing . . . when a country like Iraq is given the same credence as a democratic country, something is seriously wrong. Maybe the UN can be reorganized and streamlined. I personally doubt it. What we need is some kind of UN-like organization where just democratically-elected governments are represented.

47 posted on 04/04/2003 12:59:52 PM PST by geedee
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To: geedee
"We have got to do something. I called both my Senators offices -- Texas -- and voiced my UN concerns and asked what they were going to do about it. I was told by both, as if the damn politicians are all reading from the same script, that "Senator Cornyn/Hutchison shares your concerns but the UN is currently the only forum where international business can be handled."

(Also from Texas)
I'm about ready to vote for democrats if I knew they would get us out of the UN and kick them off our shores, and that's low down and dirty.
48 posted on 04/04/2003 1:23:00 PM PST by killerw ("All of my guns together haven't killed as many people as ted kennedy's car".)
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BTTT
49 posted on 04/04/2003 2:39:18 PM PST by Fraulein
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To: killerw
I'm about ready to vote for democrats if I knew they would get us out of the UN and kick them off our shores, and that's low down and dirty.

I keep thinking there MUST be something I'm missing. I trust GW to do the right thing and I HOPE he's just sitting back and letting the storm pass before he drops the hammer. He doesn't take slights lightly and I just can't imagine him letting the Germans and French and the UN get away with all the pain they've put us through.

I'm gonna hold my judgment of GW, for now, but I'm gonna do all I can to let ANYONE and EVERYONE know my feelings about our back-stabbing allies and the UN.

50 posted on 04/04/2003 2:39:29 PM PST by geedee
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