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EUPHRATES 'POISONED'
Sky News ^ | 4/4/03

Posted on 04/04/2003 1:37:59 PM PST by Zipporah

EUPHRATES 'POISONED'

US Marines found cyanide and mustard agents in high concentrations in the Euphrates River near Nassiriya in Iraq, television network MSNBC has reported.

The network said a briefing from Marine officials was its source for the information.

The agents were found during routine tests conducted to ensure the water being used is safe, MSNBC said.

Neither Centcom officials in Qatar nor US military officials in Iraq have confirmed the MSNBC report.

Mustard gas produces painful, long-lasting blisters and often leads to blindness, while cyanide kills by preventing blood from transporting oxygen.

Last Updated: 19:01 UK, Friday April 04, 2003


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: battleforbaghdad; cyanide; illegalweapons; iraq; iraqifreedom; mustardagents; poison; viceisclosing; war; water
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1 posted on 04/04/2003 1:38:00 PM PST by Zipporah
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To: Zipporah
Hmmm. Dumped in the river on purpose, or to dispose of it?
2 posted on 04/04/2003 1:38:55 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Zipporah

"Smoking Gun"

Just think how "saddened" Tom Daschle must be about now.

3 posted on 04/04/2003 1:39:12 PM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: Zipporah
they are probably dumping all the stuff into the river so we don't find any.
4 posted on 04/04/2003 1:39:22 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Zipporah
What's the problem with that picture?

If this were true you'd see floating fish everywhere. I will admit that these rivers may be fished clean though. I would think it would be mentioned that some animal life had been affected though. I'd wait to see if this pans out.

5 posted on 04/04/2003 1:40:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Zipporah
Could it be that this, and other stuff like it created by Saddam's WMD, may be the real cause of the increased cancers and other diseases in Iraqis...and not depleted uranium?
6 posted on 04/04/2003 1:40:54 PM PST by michaelt
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To: Zipporah
The cops are battering down the door.

The toilet's flushing overtime.
7 posted on 04/04/2003 1:41:04 PM PST by samtheman
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To: NittanyLion
Or maybe, the bombings hit one of their hidden stashes.
8 posted on 04/04/2003 1:41:57 PM PST by mommadooo3
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To: DoughtyOne
Is that picture just a file photo of the Euphrates? (Looks to me like people getting ready to take a bath in it.) Or is it a photo of discovery of the toxins?
9 posted on 04/04/2003 1:43:37 PM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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To: NittanyLion
Hmmm. Dumped in the river on purpose, or to dispose of it?

Doesn't matter really.
Where's the press releases about that environmental terrorist Saddam from
"Earth First", Greenpeace, The World Wildlife Fund...

These sanctamonious holier-than-thou enviros are so quiet, all I can hear
is the sound of a few crickets that survived the cyanide, mustard gas and
other toxics...
10 posted on 04/04/2003 1:45:29 PM PST by VOA
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To: Zipporah
Sounds kinda like Hans Schlixx or whatever his name is couldn't find the Euphrates river...
11 posted on 04/04/2003 1:46:50 PM PST by merak
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To: Zipporah
Hans Blix and his other Saddamites stalled and stalled and stalled
Keeping us out of Iraq for several months
Saddam has moved his WMDs....we need to check out Syria....for the stash
12 posted on 04/04/2003 1:47:49 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Proud2BAmerican
It does look like a file photo now that you mention it. The lack of mention of animal life in the article is interesting though. I would think that affected animal lifew would be a very quick way to determine if concerns were justified or not, then research the actual levels subsequent to that.
13 posted on 04/04/2003 1:48:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Zipporah
I bet this is why Saddam cut the power to baghdad. If he's going to die he wants to kill his entire population with it. No power means no water. No water means the people will go to the river to drink or at least the water won't be cleaned before sending to the people.
14 posted on 04/04/2003 1:48:34 PM PST by for-q-clinton ((If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed))
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To: DoughtyOne
Well this picture is from the Sky News site.. possibly just a picture of the Euphrates and not one that is current .. one that is showing the poisoning of the river.
15 posted on 04/04/2003 1:48:34 PM PST by Zipporah
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To: Zipporah
Thanks for the comments. Check out my post 13 also. Take care.
16 posted on 04/04/2003 1:49:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Zipporah; All
This will probably be Blix's excuse for why they couldn't find anything.

Tour exotic Iraq . . . but don't drink the water.

17 posted on 04/04/2003 1:49:43 PM PST by w_over_w (Never bring a box cutter to a Jihad)
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To: DoughtyOne
calling PETA!
18 posted on 04/04/2003 1:51:04 PM PST by thoughtomator (I predict continued hysteria at the UN)
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To: thoughtomator
Do you think they'll approve of taking Hussein out now? ROTFL
19 posted on 04/04/2003 1:52:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Zipporah
Wasn't there an attempt made to poison our troops' water in Jordan a few days ago?
20 posted on 04/04/2003 1:52:37 PM PST by aristeides
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To: DoughtyOne
Photo is probably from archives???
21 posted on 04/04/2003 1:53:49 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: Zipporah
Another WMD story that will be squashed or FUBAR by tomorrow.
22 posted on 04/04/2003 1:55:50 PM PST by oyez (I don't know but I been told.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Not necessarily. All animals do not react the same to chemicals that may poison humans. For example, an owl is completely immune to the effects of potassium cyanide. Dioxin (called the worlds most toxic poison) has no effect on humans yet will kill rodents in a heartbeat. Likewise, there has never been substantial proof that DDT affected either humans or mammals or fowl (despite the various lies that abound) yet it is deadly on insects.
23 posted on 04/04/2003 1:56:25 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
While I recognize the validity of your comments, I do think there would be evidence of distressed or dead animal life if this story were true. Thanks for your comments. We'll see how this plays out.
24 posted on 04/04/2003 2:00:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Zipporah
Bastards!
25 posted on 04/04/2003 2:00:58 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: oceanview
BINGO
26 posted on 04/04/2003 2:02:01 PM PST by Fletcher J
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To: Zipporah
YooHoo....whatcha gonna say now, lefty environmentalists?
27 posted on 04/04/2003 2:02:36 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Zipporah
Has this been mentioned anywhere else? Not to put too fine a point on it, but as a former subscriber to SKY TV, they are just a bit better than the tabloids that can be found wrapping fish and chips in Picadilly Circus for using dubious sources and senasationalizing rumours. There have been no reports of mass deaths or poisonings as of yet. But, I don't have much doubt that the peaceloving muslims in charge of Iraq would do this, just looking for corroboration.
28 posted on 04/04/2003 2:02:40 PM PST by BritExPatInFla
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To: DoughtyOne
That is not a picture of the Marines finding this evidence. I am sure no one gets to their water intakes that easily.
The poison was found around the intakes.
29 posted on 04/04/2003 2:03:46 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit ( Its time to trap some RATS)
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To: BritExPatInFla
MSNBC reported it early this morning. A thread was posted about it then.
30 posted on 04/04/2003 2:04:43 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit ( Its time to trap some RATS)
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To: DoughtyOne
Not really. It would take HUGE (that's hugh also) amounts of these chemicals to create a major fish kill. Hang tight, I'm sure it will come out that just one unit dumped it's junk because they were about to be captured and didn't want to obey the order to use it.

V


31 posted on 04/04/2003 2:04:43 PM PST by Beck_isright (If Susan Sarandon pooped in the woods, would ELF boycott her?)
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To: Zipporah
Anybody got data on concentrations found? How high is high?

Enough to kill fish? Enough to kill people?

32 posted on 04/04/2003 2:07:25 PM PST by stboz
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To: DoughtyOne
It wouldn't necessarily kill the fish right off. Fish lived in the Hudson River in NYC all through the worst years of pollution. But you wouldn't want to drink it.

I would guess this is either pollution or dumping.
33 posted on 04/04/2003 2:09:05 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Zipporah
the media and anti-war,eviromental nuts they all will look the other way.
34 posted on 04/04/2003 2:09:30 PM PST by green team 1999
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To: Beck_isright; justshutupandtakeit
Our ew series it has to bee hugh?

If it is a small amount of the substance, I would agree that major impact would be unlikely. The problem is, that the article lays out this "bomb" of an article without providing much information. Thanks for the comments.

35 posted on 04/04/2003 2:09:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Cicero
Thanks for the comments.
36 posted on 04/04/2003 2:11:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: BritExPatInFla
Has this been mentioned anywhere else?

I saw the report, live, on MSNBC this morning. The embedded reporter (Dr.) Bob Arnot was on the scene and reported that the troops were testing the water before putting it in their water purification system, when they found toxins. A bit later they mentioned that the levels were lower - which makes sense. The toxins would be rapidly dissipated in a big body of water like the river and by the current.

If the report is true, I suspect dumping rather than an attempt to poison the troops. MSNBC had the female doctor who was in the DOD (Bailey?) and she said that it would be a very ineffective way to poison anyone because of the rapid dissipation.

38 posted on 04/04/2003 2:20:17 PM PST by jackbill (i)
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To: Beck_isright
Being discussed on MSNBC NOW...
39 posted on 04/04/2003 2:24:23 PM PST by tubebender (?)
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To: oceanview
That was my first thought.

40 posted on 04/04/2003 2:26:35 PM PST by SarahW
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To: Zipporah
Sounds to me like the result of a sub-commander covering his a**.

"What are we supposed to do with these drums?"

"Get rid of them! Get rid of them! Screw this! Do you want to die for that crazy s**t Saddam?"

41 posted on 04/04/2003 2:27:00 PM PST by katana
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To: Cicero
Fish lived in the Hudson River in NYC all through the worst years of pollution. But you wouldn't want to drink it.
Or eat the striped bass that spawn in it.
42 posted on 04/04/2003 2:33:31 PM PST by eastsider
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To: katana
During the first hour of the Ollie North show, with Jed Babbin sitting in, Ollie and a military chem field guy satted that the concentrations were very low, but they were accurate detections. Dumping barrels into the river would give trace readings if not opened before dumping (on the outsides). The real poisoning will dribble out over time if those barrels are not removed. Think about where the Euphrates empties. Southern Iraq is not Ba'athist party holiday zone and the coast of Kuwait isn't a place Saddam would sun himself ... intentionally.
43 posted on 04/04/2003 2:37:03 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
I remember Blix saying there were moat or canal type structures around certain palaces and they were worried that there were chemicals hidden underneath. They were even considering scuba teams.

Don't know how these moats/canals are fed but am now thinking these contaminations are somehow related. They should be able to locate the source.

44 posted on 04/04/2003 2:55:28 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!)
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To: Illbay
Oh, just wait intil the ARab press, the Russians, and the French will denounce this as a fabrication of the CIA that "is desparate because it cannot find proof, just like bin Laden." Plus, "Israel stands to benefit from the death of Arab babies, so Mossad did it."

It seems that, when people take sides, the one supported cannot loose and the won opposed cannot win --- facts don't matter.

The saddest part is, there will be plenty of conspiracy theorists here, at home, who will invent similar explanations. Sad, very sad.

45 posted on 04/04/2003 3:02:22 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Zipporah
Fish with mustard? I've never tried it, but it might be good.
46 posted on 04/04/2003 3:23:53 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: for-q-clinton
We took the power out.
47 posted on 04/04/2003 3:29:32 PM PST by B4Ranch (Keep America safe! Thank the troops for our freedom. No slack for Iraq!)
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To: gcochran
Thank you for the comments. They were interesting.
48 posted on 04/04/2003 3:53:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: B4Ranch
We took the power out.

Source please? Everything I've seen/heard the US says we didn't do that.

49 posted on 04/04/2003 3:56:14 PM PST by for-q-clinton ((If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed))
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To: Zipporah
Most probably, this is the result of someone trying to get rid of evidence, not poison the river. Remember those sightings reported last week of Iraqis in chem suits handling drums? They were probably dumping the stuff in the river to keep coalition forces from finding them on the way north.
50 posted on 04/04/2003 4:09:19 PM PST by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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