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Gore Vidal Calls Bush, Blair 'Dangerous Jesus Lovers'
NewsMax.com ^
| 4/05/03
| Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 04/05/2003 9:38:10 AM PST by kattracks
It's not Saddam Hussein and his murderous thugs Americans have to worry about - the real danger facing us is the openly devout Christianity of George Bush and Tony Blair warns author Gore Vidal who sneeringly described Bush as a "'come to Jesus' kind of fellow" and Blair as "a crypto Roman Catholic and a secret Jesus lover."
Vidal who met with the odious Michael Moore and is reported to have either written or was behind Moore's attack on the President at the Oscar ceremonies, admits he met with the redundantly obese producer but denies he had anything to do with Moore's screed, according to Liz Smith's column in yesterday's New York Post.
"I'm flattered," he gushed to Smith. "No, I didn't have anything to do with his speech although I did see him recently."
Vidal described his meeting with Moore: "Some of us, a group of like-minded souls, got together just to discuss informally who we might back to be president in the next election. We want a leader who won't lie to us. Mr. Bush is a 'come to Jesus' kind of fellow who believes he is doing God's work. And it explains why Tony Blair has gone along with him. He, too, is a crypto Roman Catholic and a secret Jesus lover. Together they are very dangerous."
Vidal failed to explain exactly how Blair, who is a self-declared devout Christian, could be a "secret Jesus lover."
But Gore Vidal is not alone in voicing virulent anti-Christian attacks. The Catholic League's Dr. Bill Donahue reports that the role of religion in the life of President Bush is coming under increasing criticism both at home and abroad.
He cites the following examples of that criticism:
- German President Johannes Rau, when asked about Bushs understanding of religion said "Nowhere does the Bible call for crusades."
- Not surprisingly, French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin threw in his two francs worth of French religious doctrine: "In no way can God be called on for a vote of confidence."
- An easily surprised Swedish lawmaker gasped "Ive never seen anything like this before."
- Donahue reports that the head of the German Bishops Conference, Cardinal Karl Lehmann, "showed how thoroughly modern he is when he admonished Bush for his careless way of using religious language; the good cardinal advised that this 'is not acceptable anymore in todays world. "
- In the U.S., Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State says Bush is on a "divinely inspired" mission that is endangering our liberties.
- An official of the Utah chapter of American Atheists brands Bushs rhetoric as "divisive."
- Freedom From Religion Foundation chief, Annie Laurie Gaylor, says that Bush is "the most recklessly religious President weve seen.
- Presbyterian minister Fritz Ritsch says Bush thinks hes "theologian in chief."
- Commonweal, which Donahue describes as a magazine of the Catholic left, accuses Bush of the sin of "moral simplicity," one that is "a dangerous illusion.
- Time writer and Clinton worshipper Joe Klein worries that Bushs faith "does not discomfort him."
- Protestant theologian Martin Marty worries that Bushs God talk will set the tinderbox that is the Muslim world on fire,[perhaps just as Christianity set the tinderbox that was the Pagan world on fire], and Muslim American Society official, Shaker El Sayed, warns that Bush "is claiming a divine mandate."
- Michael Cottle of the New Republic is upset that Bush "is charging into battle with the blind confidence that God will of course help him emerge victorious."
Says Donahue: "This is the way the Bush-fearing gang operates. They put words in his mouth and then denounce him for saying what he never said. We pray the president continues to invoke Gods name whenever he sees fit and does not yield to those who tremble when he does."
Note to President Bush and Prime Minister Blair: keep in mind what Christ told his apostles on the night before He was crucified: "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before you ... if they have persecuted me, they will persecute you also."
In other words, you're in very good company.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antichristianhatred; atheism; blairandgod; bushandgod; catholic; clowns; dummyland; evangelicals; faith; gorevidal; hollyweird; idiot; iraqifreedom; jesuslover; waronchristianity; woc
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posted on
04/05/2003 9:38:10 AM PST
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
I never did like Gore Viodal, but could not quite put my finger on why.
Now I can.
Thanks.
2
posted on
04/05/2003 9:40:25 AM PST
by
PackerBoy
To: kattracks
What a compliment!!!!!!
I want to be a dangerous Jesus lover!!!
3
posted on
04/05/2003 9:40:56 AM PST
by
DannyTN
(Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
To: kattracks
"Gore Vidal Calls Bush, Blair 'Dangerous Jesus Lovers'"This is the only intelligent thing Vidal has ever said.
To: kattracks
He should still be hiding after that awful hash, "Caligula."
But, then again, what can one expect from an aging Mae West.
5
posted on
04/05/2003 9:42:42 AM PST
by
OpusatFR
(How can war protesters support Saddam when he is killing his own people! What sort of evil are you?)
To: DannyTN
I want to be a dangerous Jesus lover!!! Me too. It sounds fun!
6
posted on
04/05/2003 9:44:09 AM PST
by
Genesis defender
("Free Republic, a hotbed of Christian Zionist opinionating.")
To: kattracks
Just reported on FOX News -- "Iraq ia being de-Saddamized."
Sounds good to me.
It would improve Hollywood, too.
To: kattracks
Gore Vidal Calls Bush, Blair 'Dangerous Jesus Lovers'
LOL!
For once Gore Vidal finds a relationship between two males objectionable!
8
posted on
04/05/2003 9:45:59 AM PST
by
VOA
To: kattracks
Say, the Democrats might want to run a Michael Moore/Gore Vidal ticket for president/vice president in the next election.
What? They wouldn't be any more ridiculous than anyone else in the Democrat freakshow. In fact, for the Democrat Party, these two are downright mainstream.
To: kattracks
I've seen Gore Vidal on TV a couple times this year. The He spews incoherent babble - so bad in fact, that I was starting to feel sorry for the guy. But then I caught myself. Anyone so arrogantly insistent upon making a jackass out of themself deserves everything they get.
To: Savage Beast
"Gore Vidal Calls Bush, Blair 'Dangerous Jesus Lovers'"
If you strive on the side of Satan's POISON, naturally, you would view the ANTIDOTE as dangerous.
11
posted on
04/05/2003 9:47:18 AM PST
by
spoiler2
To: Genesis defender
I want to be a dangerous Jesus lover!!!ME TOO!
DJL UNITE!!!!!
To: kattracks
As in the words of Bob Dylan:
"You've gotta serve somebody,
You've gotta serve somebody.
It maybe the devil or it may be The Lord,
But you've gotta serve somebody."
I guess it is now made clear who Gore serves.
13
posted on
04/05/2003 9:48:26 AM PST
by
KriegerGeist
("The weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty though God for pulling down of strongholds")
To: thinktwice
Whew! I thought they said "sodomized".
To: kattracks
Coming from a bunch of homosexual Jesus haters.
Dirt should be swept into the sewer where it belongs and these guys are dirt.
15
posted on
04/05/2003 9:49:34 AM PST
by
Khepera
(Do not remove by penalty of law!)
To: Savage Beast
Say, the Democrats might want to run a Michael Moore/Gore Vidal ticket For balance, they could throw in Algore -- then it would be Gore, More Gore, in '04.
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posted on
04/05/2003 9:49:38 AM PST
by
Migraine
(...that really goes against migraine!)
To: kattracks
'Dangerous Jesus Lovers'Woohoo! Count me in!
Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war
With the Cross of Jesus, going on before!!!!
To: kattracks
Morphing anti-Semitism into anti-Christianity. Same fight, same enemy, no surprise.
18
posted on
04/05/2003 9:51:39 AM PST
by
thoughtomator
(I predict hysteria at the UN)
To: kattracks
An obscure old fruit spews religious bigotry. Who cares what he thinks?
19
posted on
04/05/2003 9:52:00 AM PST
by
LibKill
(Nuke Berlin! Better late than never.)
To: kattracks
Are they Muslims?
20
posted on
04/05/2003 9:52:19 AM PST
by
Minty
To: kattracks
Sounds like William F Buckley needs to pay him another visit....
To: kattracks
Gore's family needs to give him a CAT scan. There is something seriously wrong in there and I'm not joking around.
22
posted on
04/05/2003 9:53:51 AM PST
by
Arkinsaw
To: PackerBoy
Gore Vidal is self-acknowledged lavender.
Leni
23
posted on
04/05/2003 9:53:56 AM PST
by
MinuteGal
(THIS JUST IN ! Astonishing fare reduction for FReeps Ahoy Cruise! Check it out, pronto!)
To: Walkin Man; sirchtruth; DannyTN; All
'Dangerous Jesus Lovers' The meeting of the Brotherhood of Dangerous Jesus Lovers will now come to order. New members, please step forward!
24
posted on
04/05/2003 9:54:50 AM PST
by
Genesis defender
("Free Republic, a hotbed of Christian Zionist opinionating.")
To: VOA
'Dangerous Jesus Lovers'
Sounds like a good name for a band.
25
posted on
04/05/2003 9:57:01 AM PST
by
sd-joe
To: kattracks
"Some of us, a group of like-minded souls, got together just to discuss informally who we might back to be president in the next election. We want a leader who won't lie to us.What a liar he is.
That is exactly what they do want.
26
posted on
04/05/2003 9:57:39 AM PST
by
cyncooper
("Some of the Iraqis... 'told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start.'")
To: kattracks
* German President Johannes Rau, when asked about Bushs understanding of religion said "Nowhere does the Bible call for crusades." ROMANS 13:2-4 ROMANS 13:2-4 ROMANS 13:2-4 ROMANS 13:2-4
2 - Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.
3 - For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same;
4 - for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.
To: Savage Beast
>>Say, the Democrats might want to run a Michael Moore/Gore Vidal ticket for president/vice president in the next election.<<
Great idea! Janet Reno could drive them around in her pickup truck.
To: Welsh Rabbit
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Now listen to me, you g**d**n fa*got, if you call me a crypto-Nazi one more time, I'll punch you in your g**d**n face and you'll stay plastered!"
--the immortal Mr. Buckley to Mr. Vidal, doing us all a favor
To: MinuteGal
one might call Gore Vidal a Saddam-ite ....... literally and figuratively
Why can he just fade away gracefully like other over-the-hill queens?
.
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posted on
04/05/2003 10:00:55 AM PST
by
Elle Bee
To: DannyTN
Gore: Why did he tell you that?
Ans: I don't know. I'll ask him when I get to heaven.
Gore: Well, what if he's in hell?
Ans: Then you can ask him.
To: kattracks
More proof this is a spiritual battle being fought on several levels.
32
posted on
04/05/2003 10:01:28 AM PST
by
VRWC_minion
(Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
To: cyncooper
They've already got a leader that won't lie to them. Problem for them is, they don't like to hear the truth.
Btw, if what he said is true, how do you explain Clinton? LOL!
The phrase "dangerous Jesus lover" is priceless...Ranks right up their with Hillary's "vast right-wing conspiracy". They do have a clever turn of phrase now and then, what! LOL!
33
posted on
04/05/2003 10:02:12 AM PST
by
smom41
("The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense." --- Tom Clancy)
To: kattracks
Double standard?
"Donahue reports that the head of the German Bishops Conference, Cardinal Karl Lehmann, "showed how thoroughly modern he is when he admonished Bush for his careless way of using religious language; the good cardinal advised that this 'is not acceptable anymore in todays world."
Go tell some Muslims.
34
posted on
04/05/2003 10:03:51 AM PST
by
Minty
To: DannyTN
I want to be a dangerous Jesus lover!!!No, me!!!
Dan
(My wife's response to you: "No, it's a secret club!")
35
posted on
04/05/2003 10:05:29 AM PST
by
BibChr
(Liberalism means never even having to admit to yourself that you SHOULD be sorry)
To: DannyTN
These statements in the article are the best endorsements of Bush I have ever read.
:-)
To: kattracks
And I call Gore Vidal a sodomizing Satan ass kisser.
37
posted on
04/05/2003 10:07:06 AM PST
by
Wondervixen
(Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
To: Genesis defender
General, count me in!
To: DannyTN
I want to be a dangerous Jesus lover!!! I am one now!
39
posted on
04/05/2003 10:08:00 AM PST
by
Hacksaw
(Dangerous Jesus Lover)
To: kattracks
You know Gore is related to......you guessed it....the wooden one.
Distant cousin or something....
40
posted on
04/05/2003 10:08:41 AM PST
by
Guenevere
(...STAY THE COURSE!!)
To: kattracks
Who cares what this aging pederast has to say?
41
posted on
04/05/2003 10:09:49 AM PST
by
Rummyfan
To: kattracks
Is Gore Vidal related to algore?
42
posted on
04/05/2003 10:10:14 AM PST
by
Tribune7
To: kattracks
Vidal who met with the odious Michael MooreIt sounds to me like Vidal is pretty odious too.
43
posted on
04/05/2003 10:11:07 AM PST
by
Mark17
To: kattracks
This is an excellent find. You see the irrational hatred coming from the liberal left against President Bush and Prime Minister Blair confused me. Okay they're Anti American, they hate their own country. No wait they are pissed off at Bush winning the election. Wait, then why are they mad at Tony Blair?
Now I get it. They hate Judeo-Christianity. They hate it so much that they'd throw in their lot with the likes of Saddam Hussein. "Secret Jesus Lover". I cannot imagine someone like Gore Vidal spewing something so juvenile, so idiotic, so paranoid. You'd think he could come up with something more intelligent.
All Secret Jesus lovers unite and send Gore some tinfoil to protect himself!!!
44
posted on
04/05/2003 10:12:24 AM PST
by
TheSpottedOwl
(America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
To: PackerBoy

Irrelevant Jesus hater
To: kattracks
Count me in as a "dangerous Jesus lover" please, please!
To: DannyTN
Can I be a dangerous Moses lover?
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posted on
04/05/2003 10:16:21 AM PST
by
Celtjew Libertarian
(No more will we pretend that our desire/For liberty is number-cold and has no fire.)
To: sauropod
Come, join the DJLC. :D
To: kattracks
We all know what Gore Videl likes. I suppose he chould go a step forward and tell us about how the earth would be perfectly safe it were rulled by homosexuals.
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posted on
04/05/2003 10:17:56 AM PST
by
oyez
(I don't know but I been told.)
To: Charles Henrickson
Jeeez he's getting old. He should ask Hillary who did her face lift...
50
posted on
04/05/2003 10:18:18 AM PST
by
TheSpottedOwl
(America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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